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Sparta158

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I gave statistics in which Portugal is in first place in divorces in Europe - something like over 93%
These are distorted figures for which there were specific reasons. These high values were caused by the low number of marriages, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic, as fewer weddings increase the relative divorce rate. After that, it leveled off again at around 60%.
Nevertheless, the rate is high. What is more interesting, however, is what the main factors are in Western liberal countries. The high rate is mainly due to liberal divorce laws, economic independence (especially for women) and an increasingly secular society. In Portugal, amicable divorces are possible without long waiting periods, which facilitates the process. Hire-and-fire mentality. Since 2008, amicable divorce is possible without giving reasons if both parties agree.
 
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DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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Well, I had a quick look at the psychological questions/dilemmas that are discussed here. It took a good while. I made a summary and included my personal point of view and thougts as I promised:

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Please feel free to ask if I skipped any juicy dilemmas or spicy psychological questions... :sneaky:
ok, just curious, no judging here, so i have to ask, did you cheat on him for guys with bigger dicks or a bbc or was it strictly to be dominated by an alpha male?
 
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Sparta158

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In California since around 1970, in Germany mid 70ies.
That's true, but it's more complicated. On paper it was more liberal, but society wasn't quite there yet. In 1970, the number of economically dependent women was higher. Religion and the church also still had a strong influence. The overall social pressure was too high. It's similar to what Evlidekoltelianne described about turkish society.
It wasn't until the 1990s that things slowly began to change. One of the most important laws in Germany was passed in 1997!Marital rape became a criminal offense. I think that was the important turning point. Why it was changed so late is beyond me.
California is a different benchmark. It is one of the most progressive states in the world.
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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And no, it wasn't for "a bbc or bigger dicks".
Well thanks for being honest even though you just destroyed about 80% of the porn devs games main trope for cheating and NTR :ROFLMAO:
Not sure if you have played “Her Desire” game but atleast this game the hot mom Amber we get to control, husband has a big dick but we can control her to cheat with who we want,even best friend, son, daughter, old, young, lesbians, swingers cause he’s either on business trips or out, oh and he also has a cuck fetish and likes to hear about her adventures
 
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Well thanks for being honest even though you just destroyed about 80% of the porn devs games main trope for cheating and NTR :ROFLMAO:
Not sure if you have played “Her Desire” game but atleast this game the hot mom Amber we get to control, husband has a big dick but we can control her to cheat with who we want,even best friend, son, daughter, old, young, lesbians, swingers cause he’s either on business trips or out, oh and he also has a cuck fetish and likes to hear about her adventures
But it's somewhat refreshing considering porn has so heavily diluted kinks and fetishes now to a point that they are almost separate from what they where , so essentially like there's two versions of it the "normal" version so to speak and the "porn" version, what I would be curious to know is I would how many people that get into kinks or fetishes what route do they tend to go down normal or porn
 

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And no, it wasn't for "a bbc or bigger dicks".
Out of curiosity and you don't have to answer if you didn't want too... But do you visit the same partner or partners each time or a new partner each time , I'm mainly just curious that if it's the same partner or partners how you maintain/mange/limit the emotional element of it

Now not that I condone affairs but each to there own I'm not here to judge anyone , but when it's just sex that's one thing but when it goes from just sex to sex and feelings that's a whole other issue haha
 

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Interesting turn in the thread. I don't think we get many female perspectives in this thread, but there are definitely females on this forum. I think we should avoid attacking any posters. I also think women have as many different opinions about the kinds of people in this story as men do. For example, EvilDekolteliAnne talked about how she empathized with Vivian and was drawn to Christian's domination and "alpha male" energy. I know for a fact that a lot of women would find a guy like Christian repulsive. As one poster here put it, his wife who is a martial artist would have kicked Christian in the balls if he tried to do to her what Christian did to Vivian. Personally, I don't think Christian using Hutch's job as a means of blackmailing Vivian into having sex with him is the behavior of an alpha male, but that is my opinion. We all have our biases, but being realistic, some people are cheaters and some people are not. Some cheaters only need a little excuse to cheat, others need a lot of pushing, and some would only cheat in extreme situations like being desperately lonely. Some people cheat at the spur of the moment, some people plan it out. Some people agonize over it, other people feel no guilt at all. Some cheat with a lot of different people, some have one lover. For some its just sex, for others there is an emotional attachment. I say all of this because to some extent everyone projects the way they believe the world should be on to these characters. In other words, everyone here, myself included, rationalizes our perspectives on these characters and on the issue of infidelity. I enjoy all of the debating and analyzing we do here, but knowing that all of us rationalize why we think the way we do makes it clear to me at least that we should not attack each other. In other words, we can agree to disagree. I am not targeting any particular posters here, just speaking in general.
 

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My husband doesn't know about my affairs. He's never been open-minded, shutting down every attempt I made to connect or talk through our struggles. Marriage takes constant effort to thrive over a lifetime, you can't just pull away and expect it to work. I poured my heart into us for years, but exhaustion and loneliness eventually took over. Some might say, "Just leave him, then have your affairs." But it's not that simple when you're a mom with a kid who needs stability, a home you've built together, and a life intertwined after 15 years. In a country like Turkey, divorce is even harder. Culturally, it's stigmatized, especially for women, who face being ostracized or labeled as failures, and legally, it's a long, grueling process that can drag on for years. Besides, I still love my husband deeply, he's the father of my child and my partner in countless ways. My affairs aren't about betrayal or a lack of love, they're purely physical, a way to reclaim a piece of myself in a marriage that's left me feeling invisible for far too long. These experiences have opened the door to bold, electrifying moments that awaken a passionate, adventurous side of me, reminding me who I am beyond just being a wife and mother. They're a temporary escape, a chance to feel alive and desired again, but they don't change my commitment to my family.
Really, that's what you tell yourself for justification?
In comparison, its funny to see Vivian actually appear as the better person !?!
 
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In other words, everyone here, myself included, rationalizes our perspectives on these characters and on the issue of infidelity.
All true. But from my perspective on the thread a the moment it's not so much about individuals and their experiences (which tend to be respected always and by all sides, and rightly so), but if these immediately get embedded in readymade, partly age-old sociio-political narratives, mostly liberal and also more conservative ones. This happens more clearly by the day. But maybe we should all agree, that we should not get into these territories regarding the context (and harmony!) of this forum, and this demands restraint, and here I'm including myself of course. I've already supressed temptations to engage which were almost as strong as the ones we all are here for.
 
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I've already written about this – infidelity is so widespread in societies, especially Western ones, that condemning anyone for it is pure hypocrisy. The difference in how infidelity is treated depending on whether it's committed by a man or a woman is particularly striking.


I'm afraid most of the people on this forum don't truly understand the issue – simply because they lack experience in (long-term) relationships. A well-fed person will never understand a hungry one.


Even – according to strict commandments (e.g., Puritan ones, which are so close to Anglo-Saxon culture) – merely being present on this forum could be considered a form of infidelity.
 
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I've already written about this – infidelity is so widespread in societies, especially Western ones, that condemning anyone for it is pure hypocrisy. The difference in how infidelity is treated depending on whether it's committed by a man or a woman is particularly striking.


I'm afraid most of the people on this forum don't truly understand the issue – simply because they lack experience in (long-term) relationships. A well-fed person will never understand a hungry one.


Even – according to strict commandments (e.g., Puritan ones, which are so close to Anglo-Saxon culture) – merely being present on this forum could be considered a form of infidelity.
Honest question: do you really want a debate about this or do you just want to state you opinion? Because sometimes (and with good reasons) you admonish us to stay close to the game.
 
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No evidence for that whattsoever in the game. That's what I mean with evoking ready-made narratives which have no basis.
No woman will go to another man's arms if she is not satisfied by her husband. Yes, maybe this is cheating or worse, and I am definitely not advocating it. It is not very ethical, but you cannot change the habitat of a woman and a man. This is my opinian, there is 8 billion people on earth and we see one of them in this fictional noval.
 

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I've already written about this – infidelity is so widespread in societies, especially Western ones, that condemning anyone for it is pure hypocrisy. The difference in how infidelity is treated depending on whether it's committed by a man or a woman is particularly striking.


I'm afraid most of the people on this forum don't truly understand the issue – simply because they lack experience in (long-term) relationships. A well-fed person will never understand a hungry one.


Even – according to strict commandments (e.g., Puritan ones, which are so close to Anglo-Saxon culture) – merely being present on this forum could be considered a form of infidelity.
Not to get technical here, but the Puritans were not indicative of Anglo-Saxon culture. They were an evangelical Protestant movement that briefly held positions of power for about about twelve years until the Restoration in 1660. After which they became increasingly marginalized because they were annoying as fuck (ok, that is a distillation of popular thought at the time.) After 1660, morals reverted back to Anglo-Saxon norms (infidelity, just don’t get caught.)
 

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BTW - I'm no fan of Puritanism either. At least on this one point we could find consensus.
it wasn't a comment for you(yours comment) ;)

Not to get technical here, but the Puritans were not indicative of Anglo-Saxon culture. They were an evangelical Protestant movement that briefly held positions of power for about about twelve years until the Restoration in 1660. After which they became increasingly marginalized because they were annoying as fuck (ok, that is a distillation of popular thought at the time.) After 1660, morals reverted back to Anglo-Saxon norms (infidelity, just don’t get caught.)
of course, you are right - but this is an example
at the same time, we are currently seeing the growth of such behaviors among certain Western societies (e.g. the USA)

After 1660, morals reverted back to Anglo-Saxon norms (infidelity, just don’t get caught.)
drink alcohol but under a tree (Islam) ;)
 
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