Thanks, it's fixed. The funny thing is that the error has nothing to do with closing tags, but with a missing quotation mark in the speech macro.
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You go to a Pawn shop, buy a spy camera, then install it in your living room (currently the only spy camera scene in the game) and then you can check the spy camera footage through your computer (either in your room at Duncan's house or in your office in your house). But as you can see in the 'Replay scenes', the scene has a 33% chance of occuring and can happen only on Monday (you also have to have Kiley on corruption level 5, but I'm pretty sure you already achieved that).
EDIT: you have to be checking the spy camera footage at the said time in the description of the scene.
Yeah, that's because I didn't clean up before releasing that bugfix html (also the reason why I didn't put it under downloads in the original post). This is the cleaned HTML file without the error.
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Hello.
It's been a while since I tried this game and you've done an amazing job since last time.
First, I was really surprised seeing my pseudo in the "thank you" page. I don't think I've done that much for you to put it there but thanks.
Concerning the pawn shop, the evolution is interesting. Rick and the boss are great coworkers. The events though absurd are varied and well chosen.
Concerning Summer, while there's not much and I'm not that interested in her physically, what is available is good.
Concerning Kiley, while I'm not always okay with the flow of event, you made a very good work.
You really have a knack to chose good materials and make a good plot around it.
Outside those general observations, I have some remarks to add :
The activities we do with Summer that are sport related (jogging, yoga, using the dumbells...) should increase the strength.
In Kiley serie's of quest, you sometimes added "(sleep if it's not active)". Some quest on Michelle story needs the same warning ("Crossing Line" is one of them).
I was waiting a quest to buy the spycam. I think you need to distinguish quest items from others.
Depending the time, we don't have the option to shower or work out (cf files). It's strange since you should be able to do it whenever you want.
If you don't have enough for the wedding dress girl event, you can go in the negative for the money (cf files).
If we didn't encounter any event, the event option shouldn't appear, particularly the weekend shift (cf files).
Also, even after their separation, Kiley still call Paul when preparing breakfast though he isn't supposed to be there anymore (cf files). I don't know if other events have the same problem though.
2 quests can start before being necessary ("Boookworm and "Lost Passion"). Speaking of "Lost Passion", it's more complicated to finish "Bookworm" once the atelier is finished.
2 quests seems to unfold under special circumstances "Absent from School" and "Risky Business". I didn't know they even existed before checking the replay scenes.
The "Final Straw" quest appeared after I asked Kiley to be my girlfriend in the living room on the 15th day of the countdown of the general quest ("Corruption of Kiley Duncan 4).
Kiley's quests are more expensive and it's difficult if you try to do everything at the same time.
You need lotion to do a massage to Kiley but not to Michelle. Plus, the first time you ask Kiley, there's a message saying something like "I have to check what I can do" even if massage is at 100.
The same at the club for the last stage of "Corruption of Kiley Duncan 4". Even with 100 strength, Willy is exhausted.
When we are at the maximum stats for the pawn shop, we have an option to ask for a raise which lead to nothing and the last conversation with Jeremy is about us visiting their house again but nothing.
The replay scenes :
Some should be more easy to get (for example, "After giving her at least 3 massages, ask her again." for Michelle, since we're supposed to give her 3 massages already during the quests, we should have to only do it one more time or the first time I tried to unclock the scene, I had to do 3 more massages before having the good one which means I did 6 normal massages for the special one, not 3 like it should be).
Some description aren't precise enough ("Happens randomly (10%)." is supposed to refer to what event? I learned it was when she is locked out but I tried many scenes before unlocking it; the last 2 ones should mention they are for the spycam too).
Also, when we join Kiley in our backyard and have a choice to continue or not in order to unlock the special scenes with her fiancee, it's useless if you've chosen that you didn't understand since you can't go in their house after that choice.
The pawn shop scenes are unlocked even if you didn't chose the sexy path.
Some errors :
A wrong name while chosing Kiley's date (cf files).
"Just saying I to my beloved step-mother" in Michelle office after corruption level 3 : a if in the middle that leads to an error (cf files).
"Fucking by the side" from the kitchen scene of the breakfast or lunch (cf files).
Error while playing at our house (cf files).
Error with the computer of the stewardess of the pawn shop (cf files).
A portrait missing when watching TV with Paul on the week-end (cf files).
It says version (0.16) though it's version (0.17).
Good continuation.
It's been a while since I tried this game and you've done an amazing job since last time.
First, I was really surprised seeing my pseudo in the "thank you" page. I don't think I've done that much for you to put it there but thanks.
Concerning the pawn shop, the evolution is interesting. Rick and the boss are great coworkers. The events though absurd are varied and well chosen.
Concerning Summer, while there's not much and I'm not that interested in her physically, what is available is good.
Concerning Kiley, while I'm not always okay with the flow of event, you made a very good work.
You really have a knack to chose good materials and make a good plot around it.
Outside those general observations, I have some remarks to add :
The activities we do with Summer that are sport related (jogging, yoga, using the dumbells...) should increase the strength.
In Kiley serie's of quest, you sometimes added "(sleep if it's not active)". Some quest on Michelle story needs the same warning ("Crossing Line" is one of them).
I was waiting a quest to buy the spycam. I think you need to distinguish quest items from others.
Depending the time, we don't have the option to shower or work out (cf files). It's strange since you should be able to do it whenever you want.
If you don't have enough for the wedding dress girl event, you can go in the negative for the money (cf files).
If we didn't encounter any event, the event option shouldn't appear, particularly the weekend shift (cf files).
Also, even after their separation, Kiley still call Paul when preparing breakfast though he isn't supposed to be there anymore (cf files). I don't know if other events have the same problem though.
2 quests can start before being necessary ("Boookworm and "Lost Passion"). Speaking of "Lost Passion", it's more complicated to finish "Bookworm" once the atelier is finished.
2 quests seems to unfold under special circumstances "Absent from School" and "Risky Business". I didn't know they even existed before checking the replay scenes.
The "Final Straw" quest appeared after I asked Kiley to be my girlfriend in the living room on the 15th day of the countdown of the general quest ("Corruption of Kiley Duncan 4).
Kiley's quests are more expensive and it's difficult if you try to do everything at the same time.
You need lotion to do a massage to Kiley but not to Michelle. Plus, the first time you ask Kiley, there's a message saying something like "I have to check what I can do" even if massage is at 100.
The same at the club for the last stage of "Corruption of Kiley Duncan 4". Even with 100 strength, Willy is exhausted.
When we are at the maximum stats for the pawn shop, we have an option to ask for a raise which lead to nothing and the last conversation with Jeremy is about us visiting their house again but nothing.
The replay scenes :
Some should be more easy to get (for example, "After giving her at least 3 massages, ask her again." for Michelle, since we're supposed to give her 3 massages already during the quests, we should have to only do it one more time or the first time I tried to unclock the scene, I had to do 3 more massages before having the good one which means I did 6 normal massages for the special one, not 3 like it should be).
Some description aren't precise enough ("Happens randomly (10%)." is supposed to refer to what event? I learned it was when she is locked out but I tried many scenes before unlocking it; the last 2 ones should mention they are for the spycam too).
Also, when we join Kiley in our backyard and have a choice to continue or not in order to unlock the special scenes with her fiancee, it's useless if you've chosen that you didn't understand since you can't go in their house after that choice.
The pawn shop scenes are unlocked even if you didn't chose the sexy path.
Some errors :
A wrong name while chosing Kiley's date (cf files).
"Just saying I to my beloved step-mother" in Michelle office after corruption level 3 : a if in the middle that leads to an error (cf files).
"Fucking by the side" from the kitchen scene of the breakfast or lunch (cf files).
Error while playing at our house (cf files).
Error with the computer of the stewardess of the pawn shop (cf files).
A portrait missing when watching TV with Paul on the week-end (cf files).
It says version (0.16) though it's version (0.17).
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Good continuation.
Thank you for your feedback once again.
I won't go and try to address every single line you wrote since that can easily take up the whole page in this thread. I fixed 90% percent of the stuff you mentioned (all of the errors with screenshots, display errors and things you mentioned at the start of your message).
This is because I implemented the option to shower at the beginning of the game and I made it so that you can't shower when Summer or Michelle is (supposed to be) there. But currently (v0.17) there's yet no scenes for Summer in the bathroom, so the option to shower just disappears with no indication of what's happening. Option to work out is now fixed to be always there.
I'm planning on improving this when I decide to implement the pawn shop owner's wife as a full-fledged character.
It's now guaranteed to get this scene after doing exactly 3 massages with her (it's random after unlocking it).
Most of the things you mentioned as useless, complicated or not making sense are there because of my poor game design. I'm still trying to figure out what's the best approach to this style of game and I think I'm slowly getting there. Michelle's story was the first one to be implemented and it shows... I put some of the things in my to-do list, so please be patient with me if you decide to check out the game again in the future and some stuff isn't changed.
Thank you very much!
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My biggest problem is that the MC can just walk into the pawnshop and buy a PS5, not realistic and breaks my immersion.
Hello.
Thanks for the answers as always.
Obviously, I always forget some things, sorry.
So, loiter lost it's use when you added the skip button on the left.
It should be "Be caught trying to sniff her panties in the living room". It doesn't work if you just sniff. Moreover, after that, we can't sniff her panties anymore (we can only "Wait for Michelle").
You should write "Take her on a date 3 more times" (meaning a total of 5 dates). Written like this, we can suppose we just need to go on a date with Michelle once more (2 already done for a quest before and one now so 3 dates). You've already answered and made it work like this but it can be confusing for new players.
The quest "Lost Passion" is completed even if you didn't paint the wall (I was wondering why the white paint was still available though the quest was completed and Michelle was using the atelier). Though we have that message earlier in the game when the cellar is clean enough :
There should be a message when using the modeling book saying it will disappear from inventory after reading it once.
For Kiley's date and her being locked out, I was wondering where are coming from father's car and the tools since the Duncan house doesn't have a garage (plus, why would father help you if you've already taken Michelle from him...). And if I want to nitpick, I wanted to have to ask father to borrow his car and buy the tools beforehand.
It could also be interesting if you could add the other locations of the city (hotel, club...) even if they are only available through quests or specific actions to have a better idea of the route taken each time.
I was wondering if you will add more scenes in the replay (some scenes I like aren't there yet so...).
Sorry if I'm bothering you too much...
Good continuation.
Thanks for the answers as always.
I'm playing your game because I like what you are doing so you won't get rid of me that easily. And I'm just sharing what I feel and the errors I encounter in hope to help you make the game better. Do the game you want at the pace you want, though I may repeat myself, unfortunately. In the changelog, I saw you're trying to fix some problems each time you add new content so don't belittle your amazing work.
Obviously, I always forget some things, sorry.
So, loiter lost it's use when you added the skip button on the left.
It should be "Be caught trying to sniff her panties in the living room". It doesn't work if you just sniff. Moreover, after that, we can't sniff her panties anymore (we can only "Wait for Michelle").
You should write "Take her on a date 3 more times" (meaning a total of 5 dates). Written like this, we can suppose we just need to go on a date with Michelle once more (2 already done for a quest before and one now so 3 dates). You've already answered and made it work like this but it can be confusing for new players.
The quest "Lost Passion" is completed even if you didn't paint the wall (I was wondering why the white paint was still available though the quest was completed and Michelle was using the atelier). Though we have that message earlier in the game when the cellar is clean enough :
There should be a message when using the modeling book saying it will disappear from inventory after reading it once.
For Kiley's date and her being locked out, I was wondering where are coming from father's car and the tools since the Duncan house doesn't have a garage (plus, why would father help you if you've already taken Michelle from him...). And if I want to nitpick, I wanted to have to ask father to borrow his car and buy the tools beforehand.
It could also be interesting if you could add the other locations of the city (hotel, club...) even if they are only available through quests or specific actions to have a better idea of the route taken each time.
I was wondering if you will add more scenes in the replay (some scenes I like aren't there yet so...).
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Sorry if I'm bothering you too much...
Good continuation.
Thank you once again for your feedback!
I try to add only random or story scenes into the 'Replay scenes' page. But the idea of having every scene there sounds interesting, so I'm adding it to my to-do list. But don't expect this to be in the game soon.
Thank you again for spending your time writing this comment. I fixed all of the things you mentioned and it should be resolved in the next update.
I'm completely aware of its uselessness, but I like having a button that is always there if you are in a room/location. I think this gives you an easy hint that you can now travel freely between places and you are not in a scene or event.
In the future, I want to have a car dealership where MC can buy cars (a better car means less travel time) and a repair shop (in which MC can also work). Both of these locations will be in the 'big city'. There will also be a point in the School's story where MC gets an old car as a reward. I knew of these features, but I chose to not add them yet. So I had two options, either not add these scenes before implementing those features, or come up with something that doesn't really make sense.
Yeah, I think it's time for me to allocate some time to add these places. I already found a few scenes that can happen there. I'm putting it in my v0.19 schedule.
The scene you mentioned is one of the default scenes (just be at a specific time in a specific location, sometimes only if you reach a certain corruption level). This one happens on Saturday, in her backyard (09:00->09:59) after reaching corruption level 4 with Kiley.
I try to add only random or story scenes into the 'Replay scenes' page. But the idea of having every scene there sounds interesting, so I'm adding it to my to-do list. But don't expect this to be in the game soon.
Thank you again for spending your time writing this comment. I fixed all of the things you mentioned and it should be resolved in the next update.
You have to have 100 corruption and 100 relationship with Michelle and do at least 3 massages with her. Then you need to go to sleep or advance to the next day for the quest to be started. You can attach your save file if the quest still doesn't work and I can take a look at it.
Thanks, everything worked. It's just that the conditions of the quest did not immediately appear on the phone.
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Yeah. It still happens so that puts me off as well. I don't care if it isn't shown, the fact that it exists and has no method to keep it from happening means I'll pass as well. NTR is a very divisive subject which I'm sure you've come to realize.
Good luck with the project.
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[1] Will ntr be avoidable ? [2] Are you planning to add more main characters for the mc to hook up with grandma ,aunt step moms friend's coworkers her boss or step sis fiend's co workers ect ?
I came to a conclusion that the part when she 'sells her body' doesn't really correspond to her character. I will probably create a different version, something like she has to keep her image in front of her coworkers, so she started working part-time in a convenience store that's nearby.Yeah. It still happens so that puts me off as well. I don't care if it isn't shown, the fact that it exists and has no method to keep it from happening means I'll pass as well. NTR is a very divisive subject which I'm sure you've come to realize.
Good luck with the project.
Many people shared their opinion about NTR and I read about it on many threads on this forum, so I'm now very familiar how sensitive this topic is and how stupid was my decision to implement it like I did. I'm already planning to do a separate download pack for just the NTR scenes in the future and I already implemented a NTR on/off setting.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
[1] NTR is already avoidable. It is turned off as a default and you can turn it on either at the start of the game or in the 'Settings' page in 'Phone' afterwards. Even if you turn it on, there's a NTR warning before advancing to any NTR scene. [2] I won't probably do a grandma character, but aunt is possible. Step-mom works in school, so her coworkers are other teachers and they will be full-fledged characters in the future. I'm already working on school content and they will be most likely implemented in the next two to three months. Her boss (the school principal) has a role in the school storyline, but there won't be any scenes with him. Step-sister's coworkers aren't in my schedule, but it's possible that after adding the 'big city', I will also add her place of work there and some