TiffanyMonroe
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- May 29, 2018
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Colour me surprised, all this time I thought that this website is F95 Zone. Turns out we have been on Patreon all the time. In general, what patrons want does count diddly squat here.I agree but these days the dev's pamper to Patrons wishes and could easily have been added as an option.
Maybe you haven't connected the dots, but a vegan burger is not Ashley's favorite meal.... And that grin on her face made me think she was talking about Tales... so I've read that as "I'd do anything for Tales"Dammit
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That's why she should've been saved instead of that "forever alone" ending lolMaybe you haven't connected the dots, but a vegan burger is not Ashley's favorite meal.... And that grin on her face made me think she was talking about Tales... so I've read that as "I'd do anything for Tales"
Try engaging with the Mod that removed your review via PM. I had mine removed twice in the past (On a different game) and had a decent conversation with the mod that removed it find out the reason. Read the Review rules might give you a clue.Yeah strange that as mine another 3 star review was so called an inappropriate review yesterday and got removed and not once was I using bad language or being abusive towards anyone or the dev! All I said was how I feel about the game!! Clearly some people have friends in high places
OK, just want to say that outside of the second to last paragraph, which knowing Sumo I don't think is fair at all to him, the rest of the post is quite brilliant. That second to last paragraph is just a misreading the guy. It's not my place to put words in his mouth, though I understand how that impression can come across.Putting aside any "you fucking suck!" style messages, the general reaction is that the dev is a good story teller but becomes a slave to their vision regardless of if it matches what they've actually been making.
We absolutely do want Devs like Sumo around to continue making games. Even with the ending, Sumo and the game continue to get solid thoughts on it. What saddens me is that all the "yeah but..." comments are being either ignored or the problems are being thrown back on the players for being demanding, entitled, or it's the player's fault for wanting something that wasn't the dev's vision.
A creator must either stick to their vision and make sure everything leading up to the ending fits that vision, or accept that the characters are running away from them and adapt the vision. Note that I said adapt. Rowling messed this up at the end of the Harry Potter series by force Hermione and Ron together because it was her original vision even though it didn't fit how her characters had evolved up to that point. She accepts this and admitted to it.
Sumo's writing of Tales and Nikki was too good. The players got invested in seeing them as a couple or at least having their own happy endings that fit with their personalities.
From what I've seen, Sumo's public attitude is and always has been (I don't know the dev's thoughts) that it's the ungrateful players who are at fault for the TalesxNikki feels rather than just how good he wrote them together. To put it another way; it's the Star Wars fans fault for backlash when they hated the idea of a Luke Skywalker who risked his life to save his father, the most infamous Jedi Killer in recent history and the Emporer's right-hand man, trying to kill his young nephew and then running away rather than trying to help the immature Ben.
I would love for more Sumo games. What I would hate is that Sumo doesn't learn from this and understand that if a vision is the ultimate goal then everything before that must match the imagined ending or else the ending must adapt to what's come before. And the last option CAN be done without losing the vision.