TheHighSpire

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This is a porn game in the truest sense of the term. Porn games are for fapping - I'm being serious when I say that.
I agree with your point. Thing is, and that is what I highlight in my response and my review, is that while we all love some nice scenes, I also prefer games that has some story and deep, well-written characters. To me, it's not only about the fap. It's about the road to the fap. That's why I play these games to begin with. To get a nice story and eventually a good fap.. gotta be honest.

I also don't mean to come off as a dick, but just because it isn't for you doesn't mean the game is at fault or lacks something. For me this game is perfect. Simple corruption mechanics, hot scenes and great artwork.
Absolutely. I never claimed that my criteria were some sort of absolute measurement that everybody had to use. In fact, the majority of those who made a rating has rated this game very well. My point was that those things I highlight as missing, are so in my opinion. You may very well think that those things doesn't have to be in the game to begin with. That's fine. I think they should be. That's pretty much where we stand.

The complaints you bring up should be thrown at Shelter instead. That game is the first Ren'py game I ever tried out and back then it was amazing. After playing games like this one, Friendship With Benefits, Insexual Awakening, Lab Rats, Summertime Saga and Witch Trainer Silver, I wonder why so many people think Shelter is so great. It really isn't. The Fate of Irnia is even worse.
Absolutely, and I did write a scathing review of Fate of Irnia. You'd have to look pretty hard to find a game with such a disjointed story. Seriously, it's like two writers unbeknownst of each other set out to write a story. Then at the last minute found out about each other and to glue the story together. Probably should've given it 1 star instead of 2.. oh well.
 

TheHighSpire

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Listen. This is your game, and I'm happy that a dev actually takes their time to respond and be active in the commentary which is what you are. Respect for that. Now, I will remind you of one important thing when one is making pretty much anything, whether it is a game, a cake or something else entirely: not everybody will like it. You will always find people who will love your stuff, rate it 5/5 and then there are others who won't.

Are you in good faith telling me you can write a review on a game where you've only experienced a 1/10th of the content? Judging from what you've listed, you didn't even unlock the basic sex scenes.
You know what reviews are for. To help others to gauge the quality of the game. If the game simply isn't to your taste and you haven't played a sufficient amount of the game, then you really shouldn't leave a review because you're poisoning the well by doing so.
I did unlock the basic sex scenes, the massage parlor and strip club. Here's the thing; because I thought this game had a story, I didn't progress down those routes as I went for the "smarts" instead - that is mostly going to the tutoring stuff. Even at one point seducing a student and all. Fun all around. I did some of the student bar stuff too, and went to the night club. I also spent much time on the beach and met the various girls.

I also did a bunch of the lonelyfans as well. That was pretty nice. But like I say in my review: the art is good.

The main reason why this game didn't work for me is probably that I didn't actually realize that there wasn't any story at all. So I waited for it to develop. Only problem is, of course, that it never did.

Better yet, you'll unlock new areas before you finish the above content, naturally opening the world up and drip-feeding the player more to do.

In addition to theabove points, there is a COMPREHENSIVE list of cheats that can enable you to skip anything and everything you want and play the game at your own pace.
I don't do cheats. They usually suck out the enjoyment of progressing in a game. Maybe I should've used them here, but at that point it's questionable if I'd continue. Cheats is something I use once I've beat a game, to spice it up.

Okay, some scenes do take 'kinda long to unlock'. That's why you can:
  • Buy Alcohol for immediate stat buffs
  • Buy Aphrodisiac and combine it with Alcohol for giant stat buffs
  • Buy Stat Books or Porn for increased sexual desire
  • Use Cheats to alter your stats at any time if you're impatient
  • Or you could just hold skip and farm your stats repeating almost any scene if you're so inclined. That said, it's totally unnecessary.
You did use these mechanics, right? It might be important for people that read your review and want a genuine analysis of the game.
I did use them. The alcohol and the magazines/books.

That's not what this kind of game is, and reviews aren't really supposed to be heavily genre-focused in F95zone. That'd be like going to a platformer game and leaving a bad review because it's a platformer. This isn't a story based game and it's not pretending to be one either.
You can't judge a game that never tried to be story based because you wanted there to be a story. There's no universal design philosophy and it's a fallacy to expect a game to meet those expectations.
There will never be any allusion to a story, writing or depth. It's a completely open experience designed to merely provide context for the player to experience lewd situations.
Unreasonable to expect to find a story in a game? Not at all. But first thing first, I don't judge your game worse just because it is a VN/Ren'py without a story. This isn't about the medium or platform. I judge it because it don't have a story and the characters aren't explored.

It's a bit like some movie reviewer going to the cinema to watch an action movie. It's explosions all around... but no story and the characters are never really explored or developed. Would you call that an interesting movie? Sure, it never alluded to having a story, and the characters was intentionally never deepened. Because of that the movie could add up to about 3 stars - after all it was all explosions, exactly what it promised.
But for those who expected explosions and some story with a side dish of character development, they would not like the movie as much. That is where I am with this game. I rate a game for having shitty, good or nonexistent stories as those things matter to me. Likewise, I care about the characters, the setting etc etc. They are not actually unreasonable to expect in a game, just like story isn't unreasonable to expect in a movie.

Why would you spend your time reviewing a game if it's not your kind of game, then? That's not helping anyone.
I rate a game for the qualities I, subjectively, find in a particular game - like everybody else does. For instance, although NTR is not my main cup of tea, I can play it and still see the quality of the story, writing, characters, art and world behind it.

Conclusion:
You booted up dark souls, played poorly, and then accused the game of being bad when you couldn't beat the first boss.
You don't have to love my review. Hell, you can throw it straight in the trash if you want - and you'd probably do just that if you could. Yet, on the parameters that I rate games this one just didn't fit me, thus the rating.
 
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TwistedScarlett60

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As the dev pointed out - your review comes off as being in 'bad faith' because you are judging a game on merits it never advertised or ever tried to possess. There are different genres within porn games.
This is exactly right. You should never review something for what you wanted it to be, or project your expectations onto something. You should always review something for what it actually is and how well it achieved its set out goals.

There are plenty of valid criticisms that could laid out against my game, but accusing me of not having a story in a game that intentionally doesn't have a story feels incredibly disingenuous. My other games are visual novels and people have praised the characters and writing. For this game I wanted to do something different and not lean into a story, especially since writing story is one of the most time consuming aspects of development, and this is supposed to be a small project to practice coding and do some market research.

The review did give me a few ideas to improve my game, but it just comes across as very misinformative out of context. The main criticisms for example: "You can't do a whole lot", and "There is little to do", are generally false statements.

(Also, the bad point about the Crush not having art will be changed eventually. All named NPCs will have art before the game is released.)
 
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Crisis21

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I’ll be honest, I don’t understand the position that this game doesn’t have a story. From where I’m standing, there’s quite a bit of story.

Granted, not every action contributes to the plot, the plot is essentially an excuse for the porn to exist, and the story is a great deal more ‘choose your own adventure’ than is typical, but the story is there if you care to look.

Premise: Girl gets into her dream college only to realize that she can’t afford it unless she takes drastic steps and so sets out to do so.

From there, it’s all pretty much up to player decisions. Will the girl be a model student or a dropout? How will she make the money for tuition? Will she manage to keep her morals or be corrupted by temptation? There’s a multitude of arcs you could put this girl through, each one as valid as another. Most bring her into contact with characters that have unique and distinct personalities, making the narrative being crafted that much richer.

But make no mistake, while there is plenty of story to be had for a game that claims not to focus on it, it is up to the player to seek out and craft that narrative for themselves. If you’re looking for a plot that is spoon-fed to you, you won’t find it here.

Are there things in this game I’m not wild about and think could be improved? Sure. But the amount and quality of the content is such that I have genuine trouble believing the dev when they say that it’s nothing more than a small side project to experiment with techniques.
 

TwistedScarlett60

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I’ll be honest, I don’t understand the position that this game doesn’t have a story. From where I’m standing, there’s quite a bit of story.

Granted, not every action contributes to the plot, the plot is essentially an excuse for the porn to exist, and the story is a great deal more ‘choose your own adventure’ than is typical, but the story is there if you care to look.

Premise: Girl gets into her dream college only to realize that she can’t afford it unless she takes drastic steps and so sets out to do so.

From there, it’s all pretty much up to player decisions. Will the girl be a model student or a dropout? How will she make the money for tuition? Will she manage to keep her morals or be corrupted by temptation? There’s a multitude of arcs you could put this girl through, each one as valid as another. Most bring her into contact with characters that have unique and distinct personalities, making the narrative being crafted that much richer.

But make no mistake, while there is plenty of story to be had for a game that claims not to focus on it, it is up to the player to seek out and craft that narrative for themselves. If you’re looking for a plot that is spoon-fed to you, you won’t find it here.

Are there things in this game I’m not wild about and think could be improved? Sure. But the amount and quality of the content is such that I have genuine trouble believing the dev when they say that it’s nothing more than a small side project to experiment with techniques.
That's certainly one aspect I decided to heavily lean on. You'll have to use your imagination, but the sim elements of MTA are perfect for making your own stories. What tempted your Taco? What finally broke her? Was she reluctant at first, or did she rush into things? etc. I find sometimes these stories you make on your own are more compelling than anything that can simply be written at you.
 
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Prediction: 2022/2023 feels like the end of the road for this. I've been enjoying this since the mid 2021 (when it began), and is probably one of the most fast paced games I've played in a few nights, and updates deliver on time in between waits that does not fail upon expectations
 
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Torrenting in 2 of my seedboxes.


 
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TwistedScarlett60

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SEX UPDATE
- ADDED SEX
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Final Endings + New Area + Tons of QoL
It's only been a little over a week, but I genuinely cannot believe how big and full of content this update feels.

And the next update, may be the final one! So it may take a little longer as I figure out what I want to do for the true ending.

==============

Links:

Win/Linux:
- - -
Mac: - - -
Android: - - -

===============

0.8.0 Changelog:

Major:

  • Virgin Ending: Pay off your tuition to reach this unique sexless ending.
  • Loyal Girlfriend Ending: A unique ending that splits into two parts, loyal and cheat.
  • E-Girl Empress Ending: A LonelyFans/ChatFap ending.
  • Drug Addict Ending: An ending for less than lucky Tacos.
  • New Area and Mini-Route. the Bank. Features an area to get interest on money to make getting $72,000 much easier. Features 0.5%, 2% and 4% per day interest. Must be unlocked manually from the minimap.
  • Bank: Handjob for 2% interest.
  • Bank: Sex for 4% interest.
  • Alt Bank Routes: Using Smarts or Persuasion if you're a Smooth Operator.
  • Crush Character Art
  • Yomo Character Art: Her outfit will be randomized between hero outfit and college uniform when you visit her.
  • World Map: All locations and details for how to unlock them now appear on the world map. Additionally, you can choose to manually unlock them instead of waiting for the midday event.
  • Tips: Now gives actual gameplay mechanic hints too.
  • New Stat book, 'Get Rick Quick' Magazine, decreases shame.
  • New Advanced Cheat: Unlock All Areas
  • New Accessory: Pink Hair (Doesn't appear in sex scenes)
  • Updated To-Do List with Bank and Endings
  • New Cheat: Unlock All Endings.
  • Gallery + Cheat Gallery Updated with Bank and Endings
Minor:

  • Cheats: One-time cheats now disappear on the menu if they're obsolete.
  • Massage Parlour: Working during the morning no longer skips events
  • Massage Parlour: The second instance of vaginal sex can now take your virginity. But you won't get paid extra.
  • Mr Slime: Time now passes when doing standing sex at home in the afternoon, and time can't loop if you do DP at the alleyway.
  • Always Horny: Fixed instances where it'd proc but not correctly send you back to the choice.
  • Introvert: Hopefully fixed it not turning on after events with an extra check.
  • Stat Books are soft capped instead of hard capped. If you're over or under 50 in the stat, they only give a quarter of the return. Also added stats on the general store page.
  • Stat Books are now completely perk and personality independent in their gains.
  • Club: Can no longer be unlocked before meeting Susu. No longer resets your intoxication level when the event begins.
  • Bar: Gloryholes now levels your sexual status up, thus avoiding it no longer taking your virginity.
  • Dungeon: Nipple piercings now actually show up, and makeup doesn't clip over the blindfold.
  • Crush: Random event where you meet him now occurs on the first day you visit college no matter what.
  • New Music Track on the endings menu
  • You can ask your Crush to be your Boyfriend again. (Woops!)
  • Plenty of Typo and Coding Fixes
 

Testerguy19

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Holy shit this is probably truly the fastest fucking an update has ever delivered with much amounts of content...even before 2021 ends, I guess bravo it is
 

nightsight

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SEX UPDATE
- ADDED SEX
View attachment 1531105
Final Endings + New Area + Tons of QoL
It's only been a little over a week, but I genuinely cannot believe how big and full of content this update feels.

And the next update, may be the final one! So it may take a little longer as I figure out what I want to do for the true ending.

==============

Links:

Win/Linux:
- - - WORKUPLOAD
Mac: - - - WORKUPLOAD
Android: - - - WORKUPLOAD

===============

0.8.0 Changelog:

Major:

  • Virgin Ending: Pay off your tuition to reach this unique sexless ending.
  • Loyal Girlfriend Ending: A unique ending that splits into two parts, loyal and cheat.
  • E-Girl Empress Ending: A LonelyFans/ChatFap ending.
  • Drug Addict Ending: An ending for less than lucky Tacos.
  • New Area and Mini-Route. the Bank. Features an area to get interest on money to make getting $72,000 much easier. Features 0.5%, 2% and 4% per day interest. Must be unlocked manually from the minimap.
  • Bank: Handjob for 2% interest.
  • Bank: Sex for 4% interest.
  • Alt Bank Routes: Using Smarts or Persuasion if you're a Smooth Operator.
  • Crush Character Art
  • Yomo Character Art: Her outfit will be randomized between hero outfit and college uniform when you visit her.
  • World Map: All locations and details for how to unlock them now appear on the world map. Additionally, you can choose to manually unlock them instead of waiting for the midday event.
  • Tips: Now gives actual gameplay mechanic hints too.
  • New Stat book, 'Get Rick Quick' Magazine, decreases shame.
  • New Advanced Cheat: Unlock All Areas
  • New Accessory: Pink Hair (Doesn't appear in sex scenes)
  • Updated To-Do List with Bank and Endings
  • New Cheat: Unlock All Endings.
  • Gallery + Cheat Gallery Updated with Bank and Endings
Minor:

  • Cheats: One-time cheats now disappear on the menu if they're obsolete.
  • Massage Parlour: Working during the morning no longer skips events
  • Massage Parlour: The second instance of vaginal sex can now take your virginity. But you won't get paid extra.
  • Mr Slime: Time now passes when doing standing sex at home in the afternoon, and time can't loop if you do DP at the alleyway.
  • Always Horny: Fixed instances where it'd proc but not correctly send you back to the choice.
  • Introvert: Hopefully fixed it not turning on after events with an extra check.
  • Stat Books are soft capped instead of hard capped. If you're over or under 50 in the stat, they only give a quarter of the return. Also added stats on the general store page.
  • Stat Books are now completely perk and personality independent in their gains.
  • Club: Can no longer be unlocked before meeting Susu. No longer resets your intoxication level when the event begins.
  • Bar: Gloryholes now levels your sexual status up, thus avoiding it no longer taking your virginity.
  • Dungeon: Nipple piercings now actually show up, and makeup doesn't clip over the blindfold.
  • Crush: Random event where you meet him now occurs on the first day you visit college no matter what.
  • New Music Track on the endings menu
  • You can ask your Crush to be your Boyfriend again. (Woops!)
  • Plenty of Typo and Coding Fixes
cant seem to get pregnant with mr.slime and i cant seem to find the futa mode ether..... btw using furtility plus doesnt seem to be effective with mr.slime what am i missing? stupid question does it only work in the alley and what happens if you bring the slime home? can you get pregnant after words or only in the alley?
 
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