RPGM Completed Naedoko Demon's Ground [v1.12] [Tsukinomizu Project]

[Gummiel]

Thank you so much. I really wish that I could like these posts more then once.

And that is what happened; a bunch of times. I totally forgot to talk to some random monster guard and then I forgot all about the bunny girl lovers in the basement. I really do love the depth of the game so far; but at the same time I forget things that happened like...10 hours ago.

hehe, but yeah this is by FAR the worst of those cases, since its a quite early game NPC that you can't fulfill before mid to late game

And thank you once again; I was thinking I had to fill out the 60 monsters request XD that saves a lot of time.

There are some good stuff coming up for sure from here for those monster counts, but yeah not quite related to that

Smash...? Seriously!? She suggested tentacle attacks so I was raising tentacle monsters. I was thinking that if I hit them with enough Tentacle Whip or Frenzy's they would just leave the battlefield. I was afraid of killing them because I didn't want to get chastised for being mean to captured princesses.

Thanks again; I've neglected Sand Run since I got magic claw and other overpowered skills.

Yeah it is pretty weird, though it is a general rule of thumb that female monsters (both yours and enemies) are weak to tentacles, but this is one of the few exceptions to that rule, so it's not exactly wrong for her to thing that per say, but it does baffle the player often, since it is not true for that particular fight xD

 

[Alturistix]

Any idea how to progress in the artificial sun? I have the magical seraph outfit what do i need to do to avoid the reactor battle?

 

[Alturistix]

Gummiel

 

[Gummiel]

Any idea how to progress in the artificial sun? I have the magical seraph outfit what do i need to do to avoid the reactor battle?

The reactor is the end of the rightside of the sun, so there really is no avoiding it other than just not going there in the first place

 

[TheRay]

How to survive the 2nd Knight in the tower after Futanari Fairy Village? The Griffin/Sphinx has Riddle Eater that instakill everyone

Another thing while we're at it. In the Hot Spring entrance there's a dragon statue. If I interact with it while having an Utari monster, she evolves into Hot Spring Source, but I can't seem to find the item anywhere. What or where exactly is it?

 

[Gummiel]

How to survive the 2nd Knight in the tower after Futanari Fairy Village? The Griffin/Sphinx has Riddle Eater that instakill everyone

Yeah that double fight can be rough (and kinda annoying you have to climb that tower each time xD
But well riffle eater is used by the griffin only specifically, and has a 50% chance to defeat your monsters, but no actual damage or other effects than that, so your best defense against that I guess would be to well either kill the griffin before it uses it, or get some items for your monsters that have resistance or immunity to being instakilled (this would count as a status effect so any item that give imunity to all status effects would work).
Tentacle is the only thing that the griffin is weak against. Ice, Fire and Exocism it take reduced damage from, anything else is normal damage
The Goblin Gunner is taking reduced damage from tentacles, no weaknesses for it, everything else is just normal damage
The Lust succubus is weak to Ice, holy and tentacle, and takes reduced damage from Fire, Thunder, Dark, and Exorcism.
All 3 of them are immune to I think all or at the very least the vast majority of status effects (like most of the games bosses)

And then in general do NOT underestimate the power of buffs, both the normal standard Buffs, but also the buffs you can get by knocking down Eliza and rapeing her in the fight, this is one fight where that can be super helpful, in particular if you have a monster that can knock her down in one hit (as opposed to most using 3 hit), this would mainly be "Huge Feeler", "Aphrodisiac" skills and then the "Glamour" monster (at this stage of the game Glamour is your best bet I think still but you should soon be able to get monsters with the Huge Feeler

Another thing while we're at it. In the Hot Spring entrance there's a dragon statue. If I interact with it while having an Utari monster, she evolves into Hot Spring Source, but I can't seem to find the item anywhere. What or where exactly is it?

hmm don't even remember interacting with that statue myself before xD, looking at it in the editor... it litterally gives a blank item, and no idea what it is supposed to give even... So if anyone got any suggestions what a "Hot Spring Source" could be, and I will certainly fix it as part of the mod I am making, not sure if I ever end up making it it as a base patch, though the game could use one for sure for items names, is quite a few places where the game reports a different name in the string that tell you what you got, than the actual name.

 

[TheRay]

Finally beat her, thx. Such annoying concept, making instakill user the 2nd enemy in a consecutive fights after a long, tedious walk. Something that I noticed after a few fights (I only took 2 tries to win, but reload five times coz researching instakill moves is a hobby of mine, porn games or not), the Riddle Eater condition seems to be "high chance of instakill enemies with stats debuff", since it's always cast after the Succubus use the all debuff move, and when my allies have no debuff (from Peccaros all buff skill, canceling the Succubus all debuff), none of my monsters die. CMIIW

 

[Gummiel]

Finally beat her, thx. Such annoying concept, making instakill user the 2nd enemy in a consecutive fights after a long, tedious walk. Something that I noticed after a few fights (I only took 2 tries to win, but reload five times coz researching instakill moves is a hobby of mine, porn games or not), the Riddle Eater condition seems to be "high chance of instakill enemies with stats debuff", since it's always cast after the Succubus use the all debuff move, and when my allies have no debuff (from Peccaros all buff skill, canceling the Succubus all debuff), none of my monsters die. CMIIW

well "High chance" is pretty arbitrary, but yeah I am litterally looking at the game files through the PRGM VXAce editor, and the base chance is exactly 50% for her to apply that "Defeated" status. Status effects chance to apply is then further modified by the attacker Luck stat, and defended again as well by the targets Luck(this is default RPGM behavior for status effects), but yeah the griffin does have 99 Luck, which is probably a fair bit more than your own monsters have at this point. And yes correct in that Full break will be cast by the Succubus on the same turn (though those casts if fight do drag on long enough would slowly get out of sync as full break will then be cast every 6 turns afterwards, where Riddle Eater will be cast every 7 turns instead, so technically not always, only first time in each fight )

 

[Waweri]

So what do people do for their back line? Put in healers and buffers or monsters that you might want to switch out later?

Or maybe things that you want to Deep world transform?

What passives work on your front line as well? Like; does Mimics extra loot, Hitatchi's healing increase, Punin's item buff or Zashiki's gold gain only work when they are on the field?

Edit: Ugh! Pistons? I am missing some and I have no idea where. What about the materials to get Belle and Mimi to DWT?

Double tentacle Edit: What is with these 3 unsellable monster accessories?

 

[Gummiel]

So what do people do for their back line? Put in healers and buffers or monsters that you might want to switch out later?

Or maybe things that you want to Deep world transform?

What passives work on your front line as well? Like; does Mimics extra loot, Hitatchi's healing increase, Punin's item buff or Zashiki's gold gain only work when they are on the field?

There is no really any "backline" there is your active party, and then the backup yeah, and yeah those in the backup have no effect, so yeah best used to store monsters to level up so you can DW them (also you can't remove Jupiri and Pukis, so if for whatever reason you don't want them in the fights you would have to put them as backup too(though only reason to not have those 2 fight would be to challegne yourself really, Jupiri is OP AF, and Pukis is also one of the best healers/mages for like 99% of the game))

Edit: Ugh! Pistons? I am missing some and I have no idea where. What about the materials to get Belle and Mimi to DWT?

How far are you in the game, there are a total of 10 of them, and you do need to get pretty far before you can get all of them, I don't really want to go and make an full list of them, beside pretty sure you can find that already around the Internet

Double tentacle Edit: What is with these 3 unsellable monster accessories?

well which accessories, though never had money issues in this game so never really paid much attention to that, but probably means you can't reacquire them if you can't sell them I guess

 

[Waweri]

I spent sooo much money on Jupiri and Gospol; oh my god having two Blind Attack's per turn is amazing. Let alone something like double memento of might and deadly secret arts buffs.

The three items are: Holy Dragon's Shell, Holy Dragon's Glory and Holy Dragon's Sand. The robot's in the Artificial Sun just upgraded them for me. I'm not sure who can use them to be honest.

Eliza just said that she had found 7. So then I started the new newest dungeons; I haven't the foggest where the last 3 would be. At the moment I am deep into the Plant Fortress and just got the second teleporter crystal that sends you back to the rest stop with the two plant girls; and I'm still missing quite a few places to transfer too in the time-space place.

I also finished Seig's monster girl sidequest, and beat an idol dog. Which was something else.

Edit: Boy does this game not like getting screenshots taken XD

 

[Gummiel]

I spent sooo much money on Jupiri and Gospol; oh my god having two Blind Attack's per turn is amazing. Let alone something like double memento of might and deadly secret arts buffs.

Jupiri is OP as heck sure, Gospel is sadly kinda meh at best, basically a weaker version of Jupiri in every way. And assuming you mena "Blind Fire" well its good at times, (mainly if there is only one target left), but since it is random it is far from the best attack a lot of times tbh

The three items are: Holy Dragon's Shell, Holy Dragon's Glory and Holy Dragon's Sand. The robot's in the Artificial Sun just upgraded them for me. I'm not sure who can use them to be honest.

Ahh those, yeah, the description of those are very unclear for sure, but yeah true those are not sellable, probably because I think there is maybe 2 total you can get of the items that upgrade to them (of which can't be sold either).
As for who can use them, it is the monsters birthed from "Small eggs" for the glory items, "Magic Shell" for the shell items, and "Egg Mass" for the sand items (so level 1, 2 and 3 "eggs", is what I geuss the tooltip is trying to tell, but doing a pretty poor jo of). Basically they are there to make the early games monsters useful in the later parts of the games statwise (they will be very limited in what skills they have though, so their usefulness is still questionable)

Eliza just said that she had found 7. So then I started the new newest dungeons; I haven't the foggest where the last 3 would be. At the moment I am deep into the Plant Fortress and just got the second teleporter crystal that sends you back to the rest stop with the two plant girls; and I'm still missing quite a few places to transfer too in the time-space place.

Ahh, well you certainly can get them all now then, the last one is the one right after you exit the HQ. But also 7 you say, well I have a pretty good idea which ones you are missing.

Spoiler: 3 pissing pistons that is likely to be missed

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I also finished Seig's monster girl sidequest, and beat an idol dog. Which was something else.

Actually she is more of a wolf, though never thought about it before tbh what she was though xD, but translating the flavor text for her entry in the "Enemy Book" with DeepL you get this "Mysterious white wolf beast idol with countless fans" (a bit easier to do when I sit with the game in the editor as I can then actually copy the text

Edit: Boy does this game not like getting screenshots taken XD

Not sure what you are refering to there, see nothing wrong with your SS

As for your missing milestones (teleporters) the one in your SS at the very right well is behind the gate locked by the pistons, so you should get that once you got the pistons (since you talked about Eliza commenting on the pistons I assume you are aware of where that gate is). and the 2 other ones to the left are both places after "Asura's Domain" (which is what I assume you talk about when you said "Plant Fortress"), so if those are the only ones, yeah you haven't missed anything there really for where you are in the game

 

[TheRay]

Aside from enemy collection, a souvenir, and Belle transformation, what other purposes does the Sealed Space have? There are 2 graves that are interactable, and in a church-like building there's a talking pillar. Do they have some kind of purpose/reward?

 

[Waweri]

Thank you once again Gummiel! You cleared a lot of things up for me. I've been playing a ton this past week. More then most MMO's honestly. Between my poor mastery of the English language, the editor and the translations it must have been difficult!

I managed to get all 10 pistons; and hit 75 monsters thanks to the 3x piston scene. I spent an embarrassingly large amount of time farming heal books and I never came across it. It was ultra silly and indeed memorable it was even longer then the futanari fairy village one. And then... well I'm not aware of a locked gate is; or where to go after completing the piston quest. I've explored everything up to the last shop with the ultra expensive eggs. The notes someone had posted a few hundred posts ago said that it was the last egg shop so I figured it was the best time to backtrack.

I also just realized that I can call back DWT companions from the recollection room... yeesh and here I thought the whole game that they where gone forever, and was feeling sad about accidentally DWT my starter plant. I honestly just thought that it was a meta room for completionests or finding hints about missing scenes. Speaking of which.

I'm trying to find the Swamp witch armor according to the notes that where spoilered awhile back. But I have no idea who Kakae is?

Also; there are swimsuit shoots? It says that I am missing all of them, and I would remember a game mechanic like that.

 

[Gummiel]

Aside from enemy collection, a souvenir, and Belle transformation, what other purposes does the Sealed Space have? There are 2 graves that are interactable, and in a church-like building there's a talking pillar. Do they have some kind of purpose/reward?

No the church and gravestones serve no real purpose. Do be sure to die once in there at least, the defeat CG in that area is... interesting to say the least. Also the big field in the middleish of the area is the only place to find enemy nr 270, though its a pretty rare one still there, so might have to do a dozen of fighters there to get it

Thank you once again Gummiel! You cleared a lot of things up for me. I've been playing a ton this past week. More then most MMO's honestly. Between my poor mastery of the English language, the editor and the translations it must have been difficult!

Your welcome Your English seems fine to me when you are posting here though.

I managed to get all 10 pistons; and hit 75 monsters thanks to the 3x piston scene. I spent an embarrassingly large amount of time farming heal books and I never came across it. It was ultra silly and indeed memorable it was even longer then the futanari fairy village one. And then... well I'm not aware of a locked gate is; or where to go after completing the piston quest. I've explored everything up to the last shop with the ultra expensive eggs. The notes someone had posted a few hundred posts ago said that it was the last egg shop so I figured it was the best time to backtrack.

Ultra silly, does sums up a lot of things in this game It is amazing how for such a dark and tragic of a story it actually is when you think about it, the game managed to present it in such a lighthearted and silly way it doesn't seem that bad, when playing it xD. And the gate to the new area (which is the area TheRay talked about that I responded to in the top of this post) is directly south of the Futanari Fairy village (near where you originally got spewed out after beating the nucleus boss in the giant worm area)

I also just realized that I can call back DWT companions from the recollection room... yeesh and here I thought the whole game that they where gone forever, and was feeling sad about accidentally DWT my starter plant. I honestly just thought that it was a meta room for completionests or finding hints about missing scenes. Speaking of which.

Yep you indeed can (though a lot of them can be re-acquired by normal means in the game as well, though there are a few that are one times only in the world, hence why they added that feature I geuss) For the Yuvi (the starter plant) though that one specifically you could have gotten again in addition to that by being defeated in any forest area, up until you were able to birth Giant Egg's, at that point being defeated in forest will give you Ravi instead

I'm trying to find the Swamp witch armor according to the notes that where spoilered awhile back. But I have no idea who Kakae is?

Kakae is standing in the bedroom area of the bottom left house in the 2nd layer village

Also; there are swimsuit shoots? It says that I am missing all of them, and I would remember a game mechanic like that.

Yes talk to Sieg in the "bedroom" area in the main indoor area of the pregnant princess village on first layer while wearing each of the sexy swimsuits. (it is all the the 12 costumes in the bottom 2 rows of the costume room that can be shown to Sieg for a CG with them)

 

[Waweri]

I got No*Mo, Upgraded Puckus, did the photo shoot(s). So all that is left is to DWT Belle before I go and fight the last boss.

As for the Swamp witch outfit. Well I found her; She just says; 'I'm Kakae! The top pupil of the white Witch. Fufufuf <3' I'm not sure what prompts her to give you the costume. I even farmed out some training eggs just to make sure.

 

[Gummiel]

I got No*Mo, Upgraded Puckus,

Puckus xD, I assume you mean Pukis but yeah well those 2 things happen at the same time so yeah if you got one you got the other too

did the photo shoot(s).

So you had all the sexy costumes for all the photoshoots? I Kinda half expected you to ask where to find some of them

So all that is left is to DWT Belle before I go and fight the last boss.

Well the boss after the flower spirit, which is what I am guessing you refer to as the "last boss" here, is in fact not really the last boss. Remember Eliza originally went into the Yamana caves to find her cousin Leroux? Well you haven't quite found her yet have you now? (and even then after you clear all content the game doesn't force end it, you can still walk around in the entire world afterwards anyway, to find the last stuff you might have missed)

As for the Swamp witch outfit. Well I found her; She just says; 'I'm Kakae! The top pupil of the white Witch. Fufufuf <3' I'm not sure what prompts her to give you the costume. I even farmed out some training eggs just to make sure.

Try go talk to her while being pregnant, I actually thought there were some indication of that the first time, hmm no idea how I figured that out myself on my first run but yeah, after that you should get her whole qeust chain that should give you both the costume and some other things after

 

[Waweri]

Not going to lie; I ended up getting teared up a little bit ok I cried at the last boss of the main story. Demon Jupiri was like; 'oh my gosh shit is getting real' sort of moments.

OH my god. I can't believe I forgot you can do that; that knocked up was a status condition. I always birth right away because I want a new companion.

The post content dungen has been really enjoyable to be honest; it really does feel like it is all fan service. 'll hack that out later. I don't have any more questions for once. The game really reminds me of Lufia; both in its low numbers and how satisfying it is to get Thunder (Storm)

 

[Gummiel]

Not going to lie; I ended up getting teared up a little bit ok I cried at the last boss of the main story. Demon Jupiri was like; 'oh my gosh shit is getting real' sort of moments.

OH my god. I can't believe I forgot you can do that; that knocked up was a status condition. I always birth right away because I want a new companion.

Well yeah other than Kakae's quest line, there really is no reason to walk around pregnant sadly, and is indeed one of the things I also hope to address in that mod I am trying to make, that I did mention on page 1 of this thread (no promises tbh though if or what it will be done, sometimes things just aren't as simple as they seem when you start out)

The post content dungen has been really enjoyable to be honest; it really does feel like it is all fan service. 'll hack that out later. I don't have any more questions for once. The game really reminds me of Lufia; both in its low numbers and how satisfying it is to get Thunder (Storm)

Lufia? Don't think I heard of that, do you have a link or something to it?

 

[Waweri]

Lufia was a Mid 90's JRPG; I'm just feeling nostalgic about all the loose leaf of monster drops that 9 year old me had written out in the pre-internet era. Because I wasn't going to call Nintendo help lines.

This quest line is a lot harder then I expected; I'm honestly at a loss about what Kakae wants from me. Is there a guide on this? She is asking me to get knocked up by an ice monster? I don't even remember what monsters I can loose too or ones that respawn daily.

I have one monster left; and I bet its tied to this Kakae quest XD