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RPGM Completed Naedoko Demon's Ground [v1.12] [Tsukinomizu Project]

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Gummiel

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Lufia was a Mid 90's JRPG; I'm just feeling nostalgic about all the loose leaf of monster drops that 9 year old me had written out in the pre-internet era. Because I wasn't going to call Nintendo help lines.

This quest line is a lot harder then I expected; I'm honestly at a loss about what Kakae wants from me. Is there a guide on this? She is asking me to get knocked up by an ice monster? I don't even remember what monsters I can loose too or ones that respawn daily.

I have one monster left; and I bet its tied to this Kakae quest XD
It is not so much what is knowing you up, but rather what would come out of the egg if you birthed it. The Ice monster she ask for there is
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And I geuss I just put the rest here too, in spoilers if you can't figure them out yourself, though I do think the ice one is the most vague one imo

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And yes that monster you are lacking is indeed related to that questline :p
 
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Waweri

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Not going to lie; I was honestly really confused; because I had tried snow-tan and ice spider and was going through the rest of my roster to try and remember which one did ice magic.

But now I have 100% monsters. Some really useful items as well. I think Eliza's panties on Jupiri, Toto's Fishing rod on Gospil, Neko's Godspeed on Puckus and uh... I'm giving Beezelbub the twin swords of lightening just for an extra chance of stunning. It's really nice that she doesn't need to use a immune to status item and has more options.

I think; the last question I have is in the Adventures' rest. Are there for bringing them monsters or is it just flavor? I honestly didn't want to post till I had another question.
 

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Not going to lie; I was honestly really confused; because I had tried snow-tan and ice spider and was going through the rest of my roster to try and remember which one did ice magic.

But now I have 100% monsters. Some really useful items as well. I think Eliza's panties on Jupiri, Toto's Fishing rod on Gospil, Neko's Godspeed on Puckus and uh... I'm giving Beezelbub the twin swords of lightening just for an extra chance of stunning. It's really nice that she doesn't need to use a immune to status item and has more options.
I don't really find Eliza's panties that great, since Jupiri is already immune to all status effects (and takes reduced damage from all damage types even, a big reason why she is so freaking OP, as long as you visited all the trimming shops (ie she got "Shiny Gold Hair" as her "Gear S.1"), so the panties thus effectively just give 10 atk and 10agi, not that much tbh. More on what I would use on her later
Well as I said earlier not a big fan of Gospel in general, as she is litterally just a worse version of Jupiri, but if you do use her well Toto's Fishing rod is a good item for just about anyone so sure
Neko's Godspeed on Pukis though, ehmm doesn't make a whole lot of sense, sure the immunity to status effect may seem good, and thus giving it to her in certain fights where that is an issue can be useful, but personally by far I prefer "Legendary Book of Sorcery" give her a high tier ice and lightning spell to use as well as make it practically impossible for her to run out of mana
And for Beelzebub, you really should be using her skills, not her auto attack most times, so something like Blacksmith souls again would be really great, as you really wont run out of mana (well you can do it the other way around on pukis and beelzebub too I guess as well, though, both ways would work really well)
Ofc there are multiple ways to play it, but yeah that is how I would do with those characters

I think; the last question I have is in the Adventures' rest. Are there for bringing them monsters or is it just flavor? I honestly didn't want to post till I had another question.
I assume you mean if there are any rewards from those guys in the blacksmith house or what to call it in the top right? (you kinda missing an important word there in that case :p
If yes, then yes they all give another souvenir, and getting all the souvenirs will give you the option to open the last crate in the souvenir room, that will give one more item you can equip that is Jupiri only and is taking and already full trimmed OP jupiri and just puts her WAY over the top
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As for the monsters needed to be given to those guys in the blacksmith house, some of those can be really hard to figure out tbh:
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Check the link in the OP for list of collectibles if you haven't found all the other souvenirs, or ask if there are some that you still need help with after that too ofc ;)
 
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I assume you mean if there are any rewards from those guys in the blacksmith house or what to call it in the top right? (you kinda missing an important word there in that case :p
If yes, then yes they all give another souvenir, and getting all the souvenirs will give you the option to open the last crate in the souvenir room, that will give one more item you can equip that is Jupiri only and is taking and already full trimmed OP jupiri and just puts her WAY over the top
Actually, other than Jupiri, you can also equip that item to Elizabeth (the last book monster), and IMO she's a better target for it.

Finally beat the game. Another example of "come for the porn, stayed for the gameplay" (if only Pokemon is half as fun as this). The epilogue difference between just leave vs properly defeat the secret boss is...underwhelming. You only got one extra dialogue from Pukis which is obvious already from her scene in space-time room (or is it actually important in sequel/prequel games? anyone who knows, feel free to spoil). If you start a new game+, there's an after scenario which reveals a story of the antagonists after they're captured which is...quite interesting, and the ending kinda gives a vibe that they're going to be in a sequel game or something.
Okay, so bits of pieces I found in the game I've yet to figure out:
-Is there any game reward for collecting all CGs and clothes?
-Is there no way to obtain this chest? (pic 1)
-Is there something to do here (pic 2)? Usually a boss site like this will either be non-interactable, or if it is interactable, you can get something from it. Really weird that it's interactable, yet nothing comes from it. 20210615_113642.jpg 20210615_113827.jpg
 

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Ohh wow, ehmm Didn't expect to get ownership of the actual game thread for it, as I have no affiliation of any kind with then original game, nor the translation of it, though as I did write in the original request thread, I am making a mod mainly expanding on the pregnancy and giving a bit of customization of the monsters via it. So do expect a mod thread for that in the future, still an great game on its own ofc
Can I get an update on the mod progress, if you're still working on it? I've been meaning to replay this game, but your mod sounds interesting and I'd rather wait a little longer if it might be done soon.
 

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Actually, other than Jupiri, you can also equip that item to Elizabeth (the last book monster), and IMO she's a better target for it.
Whoops, my bad, think I did know that now that I think about it, it is just that in the back the item got the "Jupiri Special" Armor type, but yeah both both Jupiri and Elizabeth indeed can equip it (and this thus extends to "Eliza's Panties" as well)

Finally beat the game. Another example of "come for the porn, stayed for the gameplay" (if only Pokemon is half as fun as this). The epilogue difference between just leave vs properly defeat the secret boss is...underwhelming. You only got one extra dialogue from Pukis which is obvious already from her scene in space-time room (or is it actually important in sequel/prequel games? anyone who knows, feel free to spoil). If you start a new game+, there's an after scenario which reveals a story of the antagonists after they're captured which is...quite interesting, and the ending kinda gives a vibe that they're going to be in a sequel game or something.
Well all of the games from Tsukinomizu, while having seperate stories(and thus can be played in any order) does happen in the same universe, and all seem to have at least some character overlap, so while I don't know of any specifically to feature the antagonists from Naedoko, it is very likely (there is a lot of the games still not translated to english sadly)

Okay, so bits of pieces I found in the game I've yet to figure out:
-Is there any game reward for collecting all CGs and clothes?
Not that I can think of right now, though several of the clothes are used in various interactions throughout the game (the sexy swimsuits for the photoshoots, the Magical Seraph to get into the Sun's Reactor room etc

-Is there no way to obtain this chest? (pic 1)
Nope (yeah I had hoped you could get to it after you beat down the Pufiri or something, as the kinghts would be essentially gone by then, so why would they care about that chest anymore, but nope that character stays there forever). From a tecnical standpoint the chest contain a "Tentacle nests" Item (which is the same as the chest in the other corner, so probably just a copied chest :p, and a far cry from the "a few items" the person in front talks about)

-Is there something to do here (pic 2)? Usually a boss site like this will either be non-interactable, or if it is interactable, you can get something from it. Really weird that it's interactable, yet nothing comes from it. View attachment 1246826 View attachment 1246834
Nope nothing, and it is frankly not the only interaction like that, there is a couple places in the game that just had a flavor text interaction

Can I get an update on the mod progress, if you're still working on it? I've been meaning to replay this game, but your mod sounds interesting and I'd rather wait a little longer if it might be done soon.
Well technically I am working on it here and now, but it is not at a very fast or consistent rate, and in particular I have issues figuring out how to get a bunch of the monsters that normally never appear in Eliza's stomach to actually get in there being birthed by her, to be part of the customization, without being too handwavy and just having them magically go in there. Specially since I am no artist, so the best I can do is some minor edits to pictures (which I have done in terms of belly sizes on her standing picture). And that is probably what is sapping my motivation the most I think tbh. And then there are some technical things, but those shouldn't be too bad tbh, and yeah that is really the main issue I want it to make sense and look decent, but I am more a guy that knows how to make things work, not how to make it look pretty xD

So in the end yeah probably not anytime soon, unless I get a massive idea spike, for how to solve the above issues, and (extremely unlikely), then it could maybe be out tomorrow, but more likely it might not even be this year tbh
 

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So in the end yeah probably not anytime soon, unless I get a massive idea spike, for how to solve the above issues, and (extremely unlikely), then it could maybe be out tomorrow, but more likely it might not even be this year tbh
Too bad, but thank your for the fast reply and explanation. Guess I'll just do a vanilla playthrough for now, but hopefully you can still figure out those issues sometime in the future!
 

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Phew! That was a lot of work and I played around with a ton of accessories and companions. I think that the itemization was what kept me interested in the game to be honest; I knew from the Snake Fang giving everyone a chance on hit to poison; that this game was going to be good. There was way more nuance and depth then what I had expected and it is super interesting hearing about what items did what and how to use them. And... I sort of DWT all of my monsters at the end and got a ton of random items so it was a little bit overwhelming about what to give each person. If I ever play it again I would actually do it in the right order that I got companions, and make sure to grab and re-level them instead of just doing it all at the end in Beelzebub's dungeon while using the Hero Sword for the exp boost.

Hit 99, beat the primal seedbed and went back to fight the Swarm of Princess Knights at the checkpoint. I was only doing about 3000-ish damage per turn; but they can easily heal around 2000 so I didn't have enough time to do 9999 damage. I assume you would just loose anyways; but it was still a really good way to test how strong that set up is. Of course; that only works for Easy/Normal play-through. It is nice that you have the option to just skip right to the prison escape sequence though.

I did the epilogue and made the mistake of saving during the Executive's Prison escape, and I think I just ruined my 35 hour save file. I only had a couple of souvenirs to get too XD Is that it for that save file or is there a way to start a newgame+ from it?
 

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Phew! That was a lot of work and I played around with a ton of accessories and companions. I think that the itemization was what kept me interested in the game to be honest; I knew from the Snake Fang giving everyone a chance on hit to poison; that this game was going to be good. There was way more nuance and depth then what I had expected and it is super interesting hearing about what items did what and how to use them. And... I sort of DWT all of my monsters at the end and got a ton of random items so it was a little bit overwhelming about what to give each person. If I ever play it again I would actually do it in the right order that I got companions, and make sure to grab and re-level them instead of just doing it all at the end in Beelzebub's dungeon while using the Hero Sword for the exp boost.

Hit 99, beat the primal seedbed and went back to fight the Swarm of Princess Knights at the checkpoint. I was only doing about 3000-ish damage per turn; but they can easily heal around 2000 so I didn't have enough time to do 9999 damage. I assume you would just loose anyways; but it was still a really good way to test how strong that set up is. Of course; that only works for Easy/Normal play-through. It is nice that you have the option to just skip right to the prison escape sequence though.
You sir, are a flipping mad man to even attempt that...
But yeah even if you managed to win, pretty sure what happens after would not change 1623785478749.png That blue highlighted part is what determine what happens based on the battle, and as you can see they are both empty, what happens after thus does not care about the result of the battle

I did the epilogue and made the mistake of saving during the Executive's Prison escape, and I think I just ruined my 35 hour save file. I only had a couple of souvenirs to get too XD Is that it for that save file or is there a way to start a newgame+ from it?
I am pretty sure that as long as you play through the entire after-story (it is kinda interesting), you should indeed be able to at least start a NG+, while keeping most stuff. You will ofc have to play through the story again, but while you will loose all your monsters, the first time you gain them they should be at whatever level they were when you ended the previous game(with the exception of Gospel during the Prologue (but once you reunite with Gospel in the HQ again during the actual story, she will be at the lvl she ended at in the previous game, since those 2 Gospels technically are 2 different monsters ;) ) , a few story related items may be lost but most of your items should be kept as well. Also your sex stats will be reset as well though (take the details of that with a grain a salt, as I never actually played on NG+, mainly cause it would be too boring due to OP monsters), and the starting setup of the game is pretty long stretches of code, that can be a bit confusing to find the way around it
 

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I went and did the after scenario and it just said ~Fin and threw me back to the title screen without any options to New game+ I don't know what I did wrong. I don't want to give up this save XD

I'm glad I can hold down Ctrl and go through all the dialogue but I really don't want to grind again. Did the game really give me the option of doing a New Game Plus or do an afterstory and not both?
 

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I went and did the after scenario and it just said ~Fin and threw me back to the title screen without any options to New game+ I don't know what I did wrong. I don't want to give up this save XD

I'm glad I can hold down Ctrl and go through all the dialogue but I really don't want to grind again. Did the game really give me the option of doing a New Game Plus or do an afterstory and not both?
Hmm yeah just did try it myself again, well I always do make sure before like the last fight in any game to make a new save near the end in case I want to go back, but thought you could continue to NG+ from an after-story save, but yeah seems not, you are supposed to use the save at the very end for the main game, and use a separate saveslot for the after-story (or not save at all, after all it isn't that long, most people can probably do it in one session)
 
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Anyone know where the jars are for the fairy sidequests? Looking for the skull one atm.
 

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Anyone know where the jars are for the fairy sidequests? Looking for the skull one atm.
It is sitting in a chest on a little secluded Island in the Spirit Ruins, use the Specific highlighted spirit(sligtly thicker border) in this SS 1623869463875.png (top-ish middle spirit)
 

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I'll take a look thanks. What tool is that, looks handy.
It is the RPGM VXAce engine itself, but is quite pricy to get, at 64,99€ on steam at full price. I only got it cause I found it on a VERY steep discount(something like 90% or something like that) at one point and was thinking already at that time I wanted to make the mod I was talking about on 1st page anyway. WAY overpriced at full price for what the engine is capable of imo (and you have to buy each version of RPGM separately for a similar pricerange, if you want another version)
 

Waweri

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Well thank you for the help Gummiel! I guess I'm officially done with the game for now. It is one of the few hentai games I put like 30 hours into and would be willing to play through multiple times. The other two being Lilith in Nightmare and Mofuland's Futaring.
 

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idk if it has been answered here b4 or not but the one thing i just can't figure out is which monster do u need for the event in the transfer room involving the "person" stuck in the wall? i have looked over a list of not just the monsters i have obtained in game but all of the available monsters in the game (on the wiki) and i just can't figure out which one is required based on what Eliza says when interacting with the wall.
no spoilers other than the monsters name please, i can figure it out from there.
 

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idk if it has been answered here b4 or not but the one thing i just can't figure out is which monster do u need for the event in the transfer room involving the "person" stuck in the wall? i have looked over a list of not just the monsters i have obtained in game but all of the available monsters in the game (on the wiki) and i just can't figure out which one is required based on what Eliza says when interacting with the wall.
no spoilers other than the monsters name please, i can figure it out from there.
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