zetsupetsu

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I'm confused, I have 3 red cards but during an event check it says I don't have a red card?

Does it draw 5 cards randomly? That sounds like a stupid mechanic if it does, especially since you won't be able to load again to redo the event.

So am I expected to replay the game again and cross my fingers that random event will trigger again and cross my fingers again that the I draw the right card.

Game seems to have too much RNG no?
 

Ondodoher

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I'm confused, I have 3 red cards but during an event check it says I don't have a red card?

Does it draw 5 cards randomly? That sounds like a stupid mechanic if it does, especially since you won't be able to load again to redo the event.

So am I expected to replay the game again and cross my fingers that random event will trigger again and cross my fingers again that the I draw the right card.

Game seems to have too much RNG no?
Yes, a lot of RNG and the cards system needs to be redone IMO.
 
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Apollo Seven

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Yes, a lot of RNG and the cards system needs to be redone IMO.
If you want more in depth answers as to why the system is what is is I've talked about it like 100 times on here but here's the cliff notes version. The card system is pretty much the entire point of the game and is designed and achieves my goals for the game very well in my opinion. The entire point of the game is that you are not the Princess, you are trying to guide the Princess. Her not doing what you want is 100% intentional and a core part off the design.
 
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Love the game but fucking hell it have some bugs that will fuck up the game , and is there any save file or anything that could unlock the gallery for you? cuz everytime i try i cant unlock everything and it just annoying at this point.
 
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And another thing : apollo seven could add a real gallery ( like the scenes with text not just the picture/animations ). cuz that would be alot better, other then that the game is good. nice work(y)
 

bettakarr

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Is this game complete? Does it have an ending?
I just skimmed through the game once and it crashes after winter event, went back to Main screen
 

quiboune

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So am I expected to replay the game again and cross my fingers that random event will trigger again and cross my fingers again that the I draw the right card.
Exactly the reason why I gave up on the game a long time ago and didn't bother returning. I've been itching for a game with Misogyny/degradation as the main theme but having no control of the game is a deal-breaker, made worse by the fact that you can't even cheat/save scum the results you want.
 
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KuraScropia

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Dunno if error was reported, but exception screen in the scene(next week) after the failed green check looking at Cecilly's donger.

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There was an exception for the event Colette looks at Cecilly's cock for the first time, but I forgot to jot it down.

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Apollo Seven

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Since I haven't been able to work on this game lately, I've been able to take a step back and think about it. I think the game's biggest issue is that while the design accomplishes my goals as a game, it's not a very good porn delivery mechanism. I've known from the start that deliberately taking away agency and porn is a really bad combination, but it was the game I wanted to make so I went for it.

But now that I've had time to think about it, the obvious solution is to decouple the porn elements from the card gameplay. It does a good job of modeling what the Princess does in a meeting with Gales, but that system doesn't have to be pervasive over the whole game. So what I was thinking is to change how the pink card system works. Instead of it being a gateway into sex scenes, sex scenes will be determined by a more general corruption stat.

Instead of having to hope you get random event x and then draw color y, that sex scene is instead gated by corruption level instead. Pink cards will still exist, but they'll be as sort of dud cards you get in exchange for increasing the Princess's corruption level. Most pink checks will be replaced by corruption checks. And for trainers they're events will progress via corruption as well. So most sequences of events will stay the game, but the Princess will need the PCs help getting a little nudge in a sexual direction before she lets the Vizier or Ulric have their way with her. After that they'll do their thing raising her corruption level on their own.

What do people think of this new system? Does it solve the issues with the porn aspects? Is it too drastic a change? Let me know what you think.
 

Pharum

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Since I haven't been able to work on this game lately, I've been able to take a step back and think about it. I think the game's biggest issue is that while the design accomplishes my goals as a game, it's not a very good porn delivery mechanism. I've known from the start that deliberately taking away agency and porn is a really bad combination, but it was the game I wanted to make so I went for it.

But now that I've had time to think about it, the obvious solution is to decouple the porn elements from the card gameplay. It does a good job of modeling what the Princess does in a meeting with Gales, but that system doesn't have to be pervasive over the whole game. So what I was thinking is to change how the pink card system works. Instead of it being a gateway into sex scenes, sex scenes will be determined by a more general corruption stat.

Instead of having to hope you get random event x and then draw color y, that sex scene is instead gated by corruption level instead. Pink cards will still exist, but they'll be as sort of dud cards you get in exchange for increasing the Princess's corruption level. Most pink checks will be replaced by corruption checks. And for trainers they're events will progress via corruption as well. So most sequences of events will stay the game, but the Princess will need the PCs help getting a little nudge in a sexual direction before she lets the Vizier or Ulric have their way with her. After that they'll do their thing raising her corruption level on their own.

What do people think of this new system? Does it solve the issues with the porn aspects? Is it too drastic a change? Let me know what you think.
I think it's a good and welcome idea. The idea of having the scenes be related to corruption makes more sense, to me at least. Keeping the cards as duds should also keep the card game aspect interesting.
 

quiboune

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Since I haven't been able to work on this game lately, I've been able to take a step back and think about it. I think the game's biggest issue is that while the design accomplishes my goals as a game, it's not a very good porn delivery mechanism. I've known from the start that deliberately taking away agency and porn is a really bad combination, but it was the game I wanted to make so I went for it.

But now that I've had time to think about it, the obvious solution is to decouple the porn elements from the card gameplay. It does a good job of modeling what the Princess does in a meeting with Gales, but that system doesn't have to be pervasive over the whole game. So what I was thinking is to change how the pink card system works. Instead of it being a gateway into sex scenes, sex scenes will be determined by a more general corruption stat.

Instead of having to hope you get random event x and then draw color y, that sex scene is instead gated by corruption level instead. Pink cards will still exist, but they'll be as sort of dud cards you get in exchange for increasing the Princess's corruption level. Most pink checks will be replaced by corruption checks. And for trainers they're events will progress via corruption as well. So most sequences of events will stay the game, but the Princess will need the PCs help getting a little nudge in a sexual direction before she lets the Vizier or Ulric have their way with her. After that they'll do their thing raising her corruption level on their own.

What do people think of this new system? Does it solve the issues with the porn aspects? Is it too drastic a change? Let me know what you think.
It's a good change but it is still lacking.

Having easier access to the smut would be nice, but I want to enjoy the stories that can be crafted using the game, the scenarios that can be explored, see the fun things I can make the princess do. That will build up to the sex and make that more enjoyable, but it's not a lie when I say that my interest in this game goes beyond the porn.

If I was to decide what will change, I'd just tell you to add a sandbox mode that makes the game work through turns, offering options like "rest for the week", "change cards", "choose events from this list of available events", and add some sort of Stamina management minigame to that.

Also, I'd finish my messages before posting, sorry about that.
 

Apollo Seven

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It's a good change but it is still lacking.

Having easier access to the smut would be nice, but I want to enjoy the stories that can be crafted using the game, the scenarios that can be explored, see the fun things I can make the princess do. That will build up to the sex and make that more enjoyable, but it's not a lie when I say that my interest in this game goes beyond the porn.

If I was to decide what will change, I'd just tell you to add a sandbox mode that makes the game work through turns, offering options like "rest for the week", "change cards", "choose events from this list of available events", and add some sort of Stamina management minigame to that.

Also, I'd finish my messages before posting, sorry about that.
I think the non-porn story telling part of the game works perfectly well. I'm not changing any of that. Your suggestion is basically "make a different game". I like the current game, I just think it's bad at delivering porn.
 
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