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I read the bit about Spy cameras too, but I haven't tried it myself tbh. That said, you'll still have issues covering all possible relevant areas for a simple reason... The Hospital and the Church allow molestation events to happen in corridors and normal rooms respectively. I'm not sure if it's ALL corridors/rooms, but I know that it's more than just the rest rooms. For the Hospital, it's because if Kana starts on the top floor rather than the basement, she runs right into a hard room and can instantly get her ass kicked and become unable to reach a rest room. Church is similar, though mainly because of the darkness+torch mechanic, which makes everything tedious.

Also, from what I've seen, Kana has a tendency to not back-track through rooms she already cleared unless she gets her ass kicked. Which makes the church in particular EXTREMELY annoying to manage until you beat the boss enough times to just make one single path for her.

That said, it's pretty easy to make safe routes for her in the Mansion and the Church. The Hospital is the only difficult one, even accounting for the fact that she always goes for the floor that the MC isn't going to.

As for combat difficulty, things will be a lot harder on a basic playthrough with no NG+, since while the MC snowballs hard eventually, it takes a while and depends on RNG. If you don't get good ice+fire drops, the game gets a LOT harder... The other catalyst combinations are just not that great... Same with Kana and the cards. She can get 1-3 per run, depending on the location and route, and if the boss is beaten or not. However, there's no guarantee you'll get good ones with good stats, much less that they'll be ones that allow for the stronger buff combos. Cards that are Mana heavy exist and they're pretty terrible if not outright useless.

The big things you'll have to worry about is Night Time exorcisms when the boss shows up and the level 5 status unlock. For the former, the boss is fairly manageable even with mediocre combos in the first location, but from the second location up, if you don't have enough stats and stuff, you'll get your ass kicked even with high exorcism values. Especially in the 3rd location. Even with 100% exorcism, the boss in the lvl 30 location puts up something like a 600-700 HP shield as her first move and if you don't get lucky with Kana taunting and stunning on the first turn, things can get ugly fast. Level 5 status screen is it's own pain. I got it on my first run at... around level 25, I think? I don't remember... but I had a pretty good Ice+fire combo and I likely got lucky too that the succubus didn't just open with that one skill that does tons of damage.

Point is, if MC is too weak, you'll have a hard time opening up new locations, as well as status 4 and 5, and I'd say both of those things make the whole NTR aspect better. The former because more scenes, obviously. The latter because it lets you track more details on what's been happening to Kana out of sight. So it's going to be a pretty tricky balancing act
I didn't have issues with Kana backtracking in the church or hospital. In the church she seems to still go to the nearest resting room, and though I did catch some events in the hall of the hospital basement it seems she only chooses to rest there if she can't backtrack because she gets beat in the first room. I've had Kana lose in the first room of the church randomly sometimes and in those cases she retreated to the rest room next door. Even when I started my routes by going up first instead of right, she backtracked through the uncleared room to get to the rest room at least once and when i saw that it made me start by going right instead of up. Maybe my difference in experience is because the version I got on dlsite is different from the one here, but I don't really want to test that. Also I didn't have issues with Kana starting on the second floor of the hospital, she always started in the basement for me. That looks to be controlled by the switch next to the door outside the hospital.

On the topic of Kana's weird pathfinding, I have to say that I love how Kana still acts in unpredictable ways sometimes, like how she will jaunt off into a dark room of the church for no reason. I'm sure those times are bugs, but it reminds me of the Pikmin AI from the first game where they would do stupid shit and you had to somehow herd your army of cats to try to get off the planet alive. Except this time I'm trying to keep Kana safe and she's going off doing stupid shit and getting harassed for it, which not only makes her feel a little more like the agent of chaos she seems to be personified as but also introduces wrenches that I can't adequately predict or plan for which means I have to adapt on the fly. Plus it's endearing! She's so cute when she's talking about "following her intuition" when we know she making decisions randomly and then playing it off like she meant to do that all along. I also like how she says she doesn't like the maps too, in my head its because she can't read maps well and they confuse her so she just doesn't even try, maybe she has dyslexia? Who knows, but no matter what she's super cute.

I started my run last night and I beat the succubus at around level 6 or 7, fire and darkness catalysts with a combined +30 ish magic attack. I used the buff fire magic, cast the 70 mana darkness nuke which did half her health, she attacked me for a third of mine, then on the next turn I did the TP release to finish her off. That darkness nuke is fantastic, it easily does more damage than the TP release or MP release even with a little magic attack, though I haven't checked it against the fire nuke. I don't think I could quit the darkness catalyst though, I just love it too much. Now if my darkness catalyst was stolen by Lawrence, that would be the true NTR.

While I'm still in the first week, I only beat one boss so far. I'm toying with the idea of forcing myself to make an attempt at the boss if we make it to the room, but I kinda like the idea of having a decision available. Do I leave early and eat the anger increase, or do I gamble and try to beat the boss knowing i will lose 2 days if I fail according to my ruleset? For now I like having the option, but I may change my mind later. I'm also trying to decide if I should limit the number of orange spirits I let Kana fight. In my first playthrough I got the church a lot, and I kept routing her through the 2 oranges at the top since it was fewer rooms than the other route and I wanted her to get through it faster. I eventually amended my route to take us through 4 of the 5 oranges, and that built up a pile of cards to fuse in short order.
 
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Norien55

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I read the bit about Spy cameras too, but I haven't tried it myself tbh. That said, you'll still have issues covering all possible relevant areas for a simple reason... The Hospital and the Church allow molestation events to happen in corridors and normal rooms respectively. I'm not sure if it's ALL corridors/rooms, but I know that it's more than just the rest rooms. For the Hospital, it's because if Kana starts on the top floor rather than the basement, she runs right into a hard room and can instantly get her ass kicked and become unable to reach a rest room. Church is similar, though mainly because of the darkness+torch mechanic, which makes everything tedious.

Also, from what I've seen, Kana has a tendency to not back-track through rooms she already cleared unless she gets her ass kicked. Which makes the church in particular EXTREMELY annoying to manage until you beat the boss enough times to just make one single path for her.

That said, it's pretty easy to make safe routes for her in the Mansion and the Church. The Hospital is the only difficult one, even accounting for the fact that she always goes for the floor that the MC isn't going to.

As for combat difficulty, things will be a lot harder on a basic playthrough with no NG+, since while the MC snowballs hard eventually, it takes a while and depends on RNG. If you don't get good ice+fire drops, the game gets a LOT harder... The other catalyst combinations are just not that great... Same with Kana and the cards. She can get 1-3 per run, depending on the location and route, and if the boss is beaten or not. However, there's no guarantee you'll get good ones with good stats, much less that they'll be ones that allow for the stronger buff combos. Cards that are Mana heavy exist and they're pretty terrible if not outright useless.

The big things you'll have to worry about is Night Time exorcisms when the boss shows up and the level 5 status unlock. For the former, the boss is fairly manageable even with mediocre combos in the first location, but from the second location up, if you don't have enough stats and stuff, you'll get your ass kicked even with high exorcism values. Especially in the 3rd location. Even with 100% exorcism, the boss in the lvl 30 location puts up something like a 600-700 HP shield as her first move and if you don't get lucky with Kana taunting and stunning on the first turn, things can get ugly fast. Level 5 status screen is it's own pain. I got it on my first run at... around level 25, I think? I don't remember... but I had a pretty good Ice+fire combo and I likely got lucky too that the succubus didn't just open with that one skill that does tons of damage.

Point is, if MC is too weak, you'll have a hard time opening up new locations, as well as status 4 and 5, and I'd say both of those things make the whole NTR aspect better. The former because more scenes, obviously. The latter because it lets you track more details on what's been happening to Kana out of sight. So it's going to be a pretty tricky balancing act
Can you tell me where did you get the surveillance room key for church and hospital I tried but couldn't find it
 

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Can you tell me where did you get the surveillance room key for church and hospital I tried but couldn't find it
Uh... I don't really remember, but you can usually tell by the fact that there's an object glowing. For the hospital, I think it was in the basement somewhere.

For the Church, the one for the door on the right was, I think, in the lower right corner? The other one I think was on the left, on an altar/table behind a red ghost.

I may be wrong though. It's been too long since I did a new run.
 
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anonsuit

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did anyone made a guide for this game? I tried it but had a hard time understanding how to influence the girl's actions.
 

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In dungeons she goes from room to room until she gets to the boss room. Defeat enemies along her path repeatedly to raise the percent of the room. The higher you get the percent the easier her battles are. Equip her with cards to make her stronger. If you want her to fail just don't clear the enemies out and that leads to the events happening. The more events that happen in the dungeon the higher her stats go the more events will happen in town.
 

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There's no absolutely 100% complete guide to everything ever that I'm aware of.

However, the thread contains information that will let you achieve every ending and every scene possible if you look for it.

No one has compiled all that information and relevant details in a single place for the time being. There's... a lot happening in this game, and while it's pretty easy to play once you get the hang of it, there are a lot of details that go into things if you want to use all of its varied mechanics to the max.

If you're just going for the various endings though, there should be a mini-guide for them floating in the thread somewhere.

Not like you need a guide for the NTR ending... >.>"

On a different note, the hardest ending, I think, is the netorase one. Getting enough profit off of selling porn without maxing Kana's submission is pretty tricky. Might even be impossible on the first playthrough...
 

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There's no absolutely 100% complete guide to everything ever that I'm aware of.

However, the thread contains information that will let you achieve every ending and every scene possible if you look for it.

No one has compiled all that information and relevant details in a single place for the time being. There's... a lot happening in this game, and while it's pretty easy to play once you get the hang of it, there are a lot of details that go into things if you want to use all of its varied mechanics to the max.

If you're just going for the various endings though, there should be a mini-guide for them floating in the thread somewhere.

Not like you need a guide for the NTR ending... >.>"

On a different note, the hardest ending, I think, is the netorase one. Getting enough profit off of selling porn without maxing Kana's submission is pretty tricky. Might even be impossible on the first playthrough...
I'm stuck at the game even after I have defeated the final boss in church and hospital for multiple times yet I'm not able to progress in the story I also can't visit any haunted locations between 17PM and 18PM I was able to meet with the ghost girl in abandoned mansion but after that I'm not able to visit any haunted locations in evening at all please help bro
 

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I'm stuck at the game even after I have defeated the final boss in church and hospital for multiple times yet I'm not able to progress in the story I also can't visit any haunted locations between 17PM and 18PM I was able to meet with the ghost girl in abandoned mansion but after that I'm not able to visit any haunted locations in evening at all please help bro
What do you mean with "you can't visit any haunted locations between 17-18 PM"? What happens when you go out of town and head to one of them?

Either way, it sounds like your game might just be bugged? Or perhaps just your save specifically? I don't think anyone's ever described anything like this happening to them... but it's not like I remember every post in this thread, much less umlf...
 

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What's the level cap for both characters?
I personally don't know. Probably 99, but it could also be 999. Either way, levels are only really relevant early on. They give tiny increases in HP, MP and stats. The really important stuff is the catalysts and the cards, which snowball greatly.

In any case, the most I got too was level 70, and that's because I was experimenting with the limits of the catalyst and card system, as well as the power levels of enemies. The limits on this game are seriously well above anything it needs...
 
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I personally don't know. Probably 99, but it could also be 999. Either way, levels are only really relevant early on. They give tiny increases in HP, MP and stats. The really important stuff is the catalysts and the cards, which snowball greatly.

In any case, the most I got too was level 70, and that's because I was experimenting with the limits of the catalyst and card system, as well as the power levels of enemies. The limits on this game are seriously well above anything it needs...
When I visit the locations there are no giant spirals there and when I go to them and press Z it just tells the current difficulty and bonus lvls however I found out that if in weekends I visit the location in day time with kana when Lawrence is away and defeat the final boss then in evening the big spiral appears at the location and I'm able to enter there but all this isn't anything like mentioned in the guide, btw you know what to do when that red ball appears over the new town where we need kana's help
 

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When I visit the locations there are no giant spirals there and when I go to them and press Z it just tells the current difficulty and bonus lvls however I found out that if in weekends I visit the location in day time with kana when Lawrence is away and defeat the final boss then in evening the big spiral appears at the location and I'm able to enter there but all this isn't anything like mentioned in the guide, btw you know what to do when that red ball appears over the new town where we need kana's help
That's extremely weird... Do you have some kind of moded game or something? I've never heard of anything like that happening for the first set of hide-and-seek.

For the second set of hide and seek, you need a minimum level, so the bosses need to be beat one or more times, depending on how fast you beat them... I'm not sure what it was exactly, but having ~15 should be enough.

As for the night boss, it's explained in this thread. You need to call Kana between 17-18, before dinner, and ask her about Night Exorcism. She's in the bath for 30 minutes in that period. So you need to check once before 17:30, and if she doesn't answer then, call her again after 17:30. The procedure doesn't change even once the house is unlocked and the two live together. After that. you HAVE to go to dinner with her and you have to ask her to go into Night Exorcism and go to the red spot to fight the boss.

Just be careful that you can actually beat the boss, since on the first playthrough, that thing's pretty dangerous, especially on the last location.
 
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When I visit the locations there are no giant spirals there and when I go to them and press Z it just tells the current difficulty and bonus lvls however I found out that if in weekends I visit the location in day time with kana when Lawrence is away and defeat the final boss then in evening the big spiral appears at the location and I'm able to enter there but all this isn't anything like mentioned in the guide, btw you know what to do when that red ball appears over the new town where we need kana's help
Have you gone past December? I remember there was a bug with the hide and seek events if you go into the next year.
 

Norien55

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That's extremely weird... Do you have some kind of moded game or something? I've never heard of anything like that happening for the first set of hide-and-seek.

For the second set of hide and seek, you need a minimum level, so the bosses need to be beat one or more times, depending on how fast you beat them... I'm not sure what it was exactly, but having ~15 should be enough.

As for the night boss, it's explained in this thread. You need to call Kana between 17-18, before dinner, and ask her about Night Exorcism. She's in the bath for 30 minutes in that period. So you need to check once before 17:30, and if she doesn't answer then, call her again after 17:30. The procedure doesn't change even once the house is unlocked and the two live together. After that. you HAVE to go to dinner with her and you have to ask her to go into Night Exorcism and go to the red spot to fight the boss.

Just be careful that you can actually beat the boss, since on the first playthrough, that thing's pretty dangerous, especially on the last location.
I downloaded the game from here I'm just using some cheats with rpg save editor and thank for the info man really appreciate it
 

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Does anyone have a save that's for the hospital dungeon (with all HD cameras installed)? I can seem to get past the first day there because I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do after getting the key.
 

C00kie

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Does anyone has a save withe level 5 scan unlocken? I habe no idea how to unlock it. I do have level 4 tho. Or if you know the variable/switch for it. Then tell me please.

Thank.
 
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