nitkonikic

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Boo I say, boooo.
MC forgives everyone this update. Boo!

EDIT: And now that I've finished whole update, I genuinely never want to see Kira again (or Pearl, but that's for different reasons). Last 2 updates made such a HUGE push for her, so much so that even having a NEGATIVE relationship with her still makes her want MC and MC wants her, even after choosing Friendship route on "lock-in" point. Seriously, I AM NOT INTERESTED.
Let me lose few scenes, it's fine, just let me stop seeing scene after scene after scene after scene of Kira and MC lusting over one another while every choice I took does opposite.

I really like this VN, but last 2 updates really grated on my nerves. No is a no!
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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Boo I say, boooo.
MC forgives everyone this update. Boo!

EDIT: And now that I've finished whole update, I genuinely never want to see Kira again (or Pearl, but that's for different reasons). Last 2 updates made such a HUGE push for her, so much so that even having a NEGATIVE relationship with her still makes her want MC and MC wants her, even after choosing Friendship route on "lock-in" point. Seriously, I AM NOT INTERESTED.
Let me lose few scenes, it's fine, just let me stop seeing scene after scene after scene after scene of Kira and MC lusting over one another while every choice I took does opposite.

I really like this VN, but last 2 updates really grated on my nerves. No is a no!
Loved this VN except for Kira. I was trying for a pure Eliza path. I just adore Eliza's character. No interest in Kira at all. Its disappointing and frustrating.
 

indio68

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You are free to romance any girls you wish, you can romance all as a harem, you can romance all without a harem, you can choose to romance only a few, you can romance just one. It's all in the hands of the player.
so they will simply accept each others without saying a thing about?? i'm curious to see how things works with Eliza when MC returns with the artifact..and the twins+ kelly
 
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indio68

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Loved this VN except for Kira. I was trying for a pure Eliza path. I just adore Eliza's character. No interest in Kira at all. Its disappointing and frustrating.
what' is disappointing o frustrating about her?? i think i'm near the end of the updates after defiting kirs's father and i didn't see anithing bad about kira chaacter...instead i think she is funny
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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what' is disappointing o frustrating about her?? i think i'm near the end of the updates after defiting kirs's father and i didn't see anithing bad about kira chaacter...instead i think she is funny
Read the post I was responding to. We weren't talking about the character, we were talking about choice to say "No to her". If you weren't interested in her as an LI, you don't really get a choice.

As for Kira the character, no thanks. Not a fan.
 

Sin_Mechero

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Read the post I was responding to. We weren't talking about the character, we were talking about choice to say "No to her". If you weren't interested in her as an LI, you don't really get a choice.

As for Kira the character, no thanks. Not a fan.
This game has that problem in general, not just with Kira.
It happens to me with Eliza, I stopped liking her when I found out she was going to become a vampire and when I played the game again without her, you realise it's the same, and she talks to you as if you were with her and vice versa (you tell her you love her, she just talks about a date you didn't invite her to...).
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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This game has that problem in general, not just with Kira.
It happens to me with Eliza, I stopped liking her when I found out she was going to become a vampire and when I played the game again without her, you realise it's the same, and she talks to you as if you were with her and vice versa (you tell her you love her, she just talks about a date you didn't invite her to...).
The vampire thing has turned me off a bit as well. I was disappointed as I love her character, but I figured it may be a way to place them together for eternity. It just depends what sort of vampire she becomes. Its disappointing to know you can't avoid Eliza's relationship either. I was thinking of playing a path for the childhood friend (I can't remember her name) but it seems its pointless.
 
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Sin_Mechero

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The vampire thing has turned me off a bit as well. I was disappointed as I love her character, but I figured it may be a way to place them together for eternity. It just depends what sort of vampire she becomes. Its disappointing to know you can't avoid Eliza's relationship either. I was thinking of playing a path for the childhood friend (I can't remember her name) but it seems its pointless.
This is done with the intention of her gaining powers and being able to accompany you on journeys without being a burden, I don't know about the part about being together forever.
For me, more than being a vampire per se (like the divine), what bothers me is that she transforms in the middle of the story. I see it as selling me one thing and then giving me another.
For the moment, for me it's only worth playing it for Eliza or Kira, the rest barely have any content.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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This is done with the intention of her gaining powers and being able to accompany you on journeys without being a burden, I don't know about the part about being together forever.
For me, more than being a vampire per se (like the divine), what bothers me is that she transforms in the middle of the story. I see it as selling me one thing and then giving me another.
For the moment, for me it's only worth playing it for Eliza or Kira, the rest barely have any content.
Unfortunately I'm only interested in one of them, so its a slog through Kiras parts for me. Other wise the story has been good. Since there is the light and dark side of the Nephilim, I assume the same will be the case for Eliza, she will be light or dark to reflect the MC. A dark Eliza would just ruin it for me, so I hope the player at least gets that choice.
 
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Sin_Mechero

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Unfortunately I'm only interested in one of them, so its a slog through Kiras parts for me. Other wise the story has been good. Since there is the light and dark side of the Nephilim, I assume the same will be the case for Eliza, she will be light or dark to reflect the MC. A dark Eliza would just ruin it for me, so I hope the player at least gets that choice.
I understand that it's a pain to have to endure the content with Kira because of the way it's made (if there's no path where you can play without the feeling of being with her), even following her path it's one scene after another, very rushed, but in the end it's only one chapter focused on her (the rest of the game is focused on Eliza so far) and we don't know how long it will take to see her again.
The good thing for you is that I don't think there will be many chapters focused on another Li like this, as now you will be accompanied by Eliza.
I don't know to what extent we will be able to influence Eliza with the dark or light path, I think it will be more like the loyal companion no matter how you are. But I could be wrong
 
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cikilotam

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I enjoy single LI games set in a fantastic medieval era. However, it seems like this game might deviate towards a harem route. I hope the developer avoids the common tendency of introducing new characters just because they've come up with a new character design idea, as many game developers often do. It would be better if the game doesn't get stuck in that swamp.
 

Maviarab

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I enjoy single LI games set in a fantastic medieval era. However, it seems like this game might deviate towards a harem route. I hope the developer avoids the common tendency of introducing new characters just because they've come up with a new character design idea, as many game developers often do. It would be better if the game doesn't get stuck in that swamp.
Was always meant to be a harem game eventually.
 

Krytax123

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Was always meant to be a harem game eventually.
Nah, the dev had no idea at the beginning and i dont think it was supposed to be a harem game (see the choices in the beginning where you have to decide to visit eliza or alice and stuff like that) but got turned into one.
 

Maviarab

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Nah, the dev had no idea at the beginning and i dont think it was supposed to be a harem game (see the choices in the beginning where you have to decide to visit eliza or alice and stuff like that) but got turned into one.
Maybe you should look for the devs posts where he states it? You want to argue with him...knock yourself out kid.
 

Krytax123

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Maybe you should look for the devs posts where he states it? You want to argue with him...knock yourself out kid.
"Thank you for the questions, NTR NO! Harem is somewhat planned, but not a full open harem.
The game contains 2 main paths for us to follow dark / light morality. most of the females will be neutral but I have planned a few ladies specific to each path.
Multi protag is NOT in the game and won't be, however there are several important (side) characters that we sometimes get to see their perspective if that makes sense?"

This was the devs first post about it (after harem pressure from the community). But whatever, have fun kiddo
 
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TKdropemoff

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Solid update..
But man the betrayal with the Lis gotta stop imo..
Just kills my interest in them just like that.. In this case, with pearl...

Like come on man.. ugh, and I liked her too..
 

TKdropemoff

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You'll get there when you're adult.

Dude, it's not cumplay. It's just kissing. She swallowed so you're fine and didn't taste anything of your own cum you find disgusting. You lick your own asshole everyday but kissing a girl who pleased you is disgusting for you? Yes, you lick your own asshole. Because just a fun fact: the texture and structure of the skin inside the oral cavity is exactly the same as inside your asshole. They are the same cells. The same mucous membrane. The only difference is where this skin is located. So think about that the next time you bump your tongue against your lips or cheeks. This is what it feels like inside your asshole.

Dude, kissing a girl after getting a blowjob like MC did it, isn't disgusting. It isn't cumplay and yes, it's a sign of being mature to give your partner some pleasentries after they made you cum. Fucking is a give and take, only selfish unmanly assholes deny themselves to their partner and insist on only doing things that give them pleasure. MC is matured enough to kiss his girl Kira. He's clearly an adult. I expect nothing less of an AVN. You know what the A stands for? It doesn't stand for porn.
man relax.
Holy shit. Even if this is true on a biology standpoint, are you serious fr man?
Goodness man get a grip and accept that people have preferences. No need to try
to say "oh well you don't like kissing yo gf right after you came in her mouth? Shame on you! You're not
an adult!" then going on a mini tantrum over it.. you don't define what makes someone an adult because
they don't want to taste their own cum, or dick.
hell some people don't like blowjobs, some don't like eating pussy, ass, etc.
Does that make them less of an adult?
That's where the PREFERENCE come into play. Likes, and dislikes.
 
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Maviarab

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man relax.
Holy shit. Even if this is true on a biology standpoint, are you serious fr man?
Goodness man get a grip and accept that people have preferences. No need to try
to say "oh well you don't like kissing yo gf right after you came in her mouth? Shame on you! You're not
an adult!" then going on a mini tantrum over it.. you don't define what makes someone an adult because
they don't want to taste their own cum, or dick.
hell some people don't like blowjobs, some don't like eating pussy, ass, etc.
Does that make them less of an adult?
That's where the PREFERENCE come into play. Likes, and dislikes.
Do you expect your girl to kiss you after you've gone down on her? Or do you types not even go down on your girl? If you do...and the answer to my first question is yes...then it makes you a fucking hypocrite if you refuse to do the same. No difference in the two.

*always amazed how supposed masculine men are so afraid of what comes out of their own body, especially when they are not even 'tasting it' themselves anyway...*
 
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