PeraDrnda

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Now I'm trying to explain to you the kind of problems I risk to face if I make the game free on f95 to help me find the bugs (besides the fact that I wouldn't have patreon anymore or I'd have very few of them, but that's not the point).
As you notice the game is very complex and also working on bugs is a delicate intervention (I'm not talking about bugs like typo). With the people who help me I have quite long chats, because even for them sometimes it's not easy to find where a problem can be born. Often they report me a bug about a storyline and then rechecking (or with my support) it turns out that it's not a bug or that the bug is not where they said it was.
As long as I have 3/4 people to interface with it's one thing I can do, if it becomes a whole forum where nobody (or almost nobody) reads the previous messages it becomes a delirium.
Already now I'm often getting reports of bugs that have already been fixed
many times with P4cc3r5 (and others that I don't know what they are called here in the forum) I stop to explain why certain consequences and the meaning of certain stats. is something I can do with a small group of people.
Also because all these people help me for free (I don't earn enough to get a salary, I can't pay other people to work on the game) so they do what they can, when they can.
Unfortunately, this game is very complex. it was born in a way on unity, then I put it on renpy and then on renpy I turned it into a visual novel. Now that I have better knowledge I would develop it in a totally different way and my future games will be much simpler. they will definitely have many paths and will be made this way but the basis on which they will be built will be different. The reason for the last reboot was just the attempt (in my opinion successful) to keep the story as I had planned but to be able to better manage all the variations.
In the future, with a story that starts from scratch will be much easier, now I could only correct some errors and prevent the situation from drifting.

5/6 releases remain to finish. I'm concentrating all the stories to give you a great season finale.
first thanks for the time and effort you put in this detailed explanation.

now i see that it's not so easy as i thought.

even mainstream games never get patched to be 100% bug free despite the huge developers teams, and all unofficial pathes from game fans.

i know that you'll do your best. i wish you luck with your pet project.
 

P4cc3r5

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first thanks for the time and effort you put in this detailed explanation.

now i see that it's not so easy as i thought.

even mainstream games never get patched to be 100% bug free despite the huge developers teams, and all unofficial pathes from game fans.

i know that you'll do your best. i wish you luck with your pet project.
Since I started helping HoneyGames with bug hunting he's been very helpful and easy to work with - and in the latest version of 1.2 I have all bar a couple of easy fix, recently reported errors remain along with a couple of story progression issues/queries.

When us bug hunters get a new release - before it makes it here - we get a good chance to look at various paths and spot new bugs. I, for example, have 7 pages worth of saves covering most (but not all - no Irene or Maud/Kirsten cuckold for example) paths with variations. I normally have time to play through those within a couple of weeks, find bugs & potential fixes if present and report these back - so that HoneyGames can include them - hopefully before it's leaked here.

With 1.2 being leaked here early he never had the chance - hence there were more known bugs being reported here.

Like the Ashley girlfriend post I made earlier - if anyone's path has stalled due to a bug & they haven't manually fixed it then let me know and I might have an end of 1.2 save that includes it ready for when 1.3 is released. I'm not going to makes all my saves available - a lot of time & effort went in to making them.
 
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PeraDrnda

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Since I started helping HoneyGames with bug hunting he's been very helpful and easy to work with - and in the latest version of 1.2 I have all bar a couple of easy fix, recently reported errors remain along with a couple of story progression issues/queries.

When us bug hunters get a new release - before it makes it here - we get a good chance to look at various paths and spot new bugs. I, for example, have 7 pages worth of saves covering most (but not all - no Irene or Maud/Kirsten cuckold for example) paths with variations. I normally have time to play through those within a couple of weeks, find bugs & potential fixes if present and report these back - so that HoneyGames can include them - hopefully before it's leaked here.

With 1.2 being leaked here early he never had the chance - hence there were more known bugs being reported here.

Like the Ashley girlfriend post I made earlier - if anyone's path has stalled due to a bug & they haven't manually fixed it then let me know and I might have an end of 1.2 save that includes it ready for when 1.3 is released. I'm not going to makes all my saves available - a lot of time & effort went in to making them.
you're a god damn helpful and friendly person. a true gem. i see you're helping not just here, with ncc, but with some other games as well. f95 is a happy community to have people like you.

thanks for your offer, i hope i won't need your saves. but it's nice to know that you have such a nice collection of them.

keep up with good work, and stay safe.(y)
 
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Don't know where it's supposed to jump to but looking at the code the logical one is "jump 4707c" - but I think you should be able to ignore it.
No, you can't ignore it. This is where the game ends. Since, you can only rollback, from here.
 

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you're a god damn helpful and friendly person. a true gem. i see you're helping not just here, with ncc, but with some other games as well. f95 is a happy community to have people like you.

thanks for your offer, i hope i won't need your saves. but it's nice to know that you have such a nice collection of them.

keep up with good work, and stay safe.(y)
Thanks for the comments. I just do what I can, NCC became a favourite and I knew how the files worked so thought I'd start helping out whilst learning more which led to a couple of others. Have to admit I play NCC with Notepad++ open to see where the best points are - which helps with bug finding anyway.

Most of the F95 community are good and helpful - a few bad apples as always.

The saves offer was for anybody - but like I said, on demand and if their save is stuck due to a bug.
 

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NCC is unique in its replayability. Usually I hate when a porn game has a dozen of characters and evolves in quantity instead of quality. Usually such games has very shallow and primitive characters while the whole story looks like simple textlink to another sex scene. This one is different. It gives illusion of real world where different characters has different goals in life and are not messing around MC all the time. The timeline and impossibility to win everything helps a lot too.
The fact that HoneyGames develops the game because of his genuine enthusiasm makes it even more remarkable. Sorry for language, Kripke’s English is far from perfect.
Strange that there is no fan art thread for NCC. I wonder if you could be so kind to share or at least to give some hint about NCC characters assets, Yvette for example. Please?
 

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NCC is unique in its replayability. Usually I hate when a porn game has a dozen of characters and evolves in quantity instead of quality. Usually such games has very shallow and primitive characters while the whole story looks like simple textlink to another sex scene. This one is different. It gives illusion of real world where different characters has different goals in life and are not messing around MC all the time. The timeline and impossibility to win everything helps a lot too.
The fact that HoneyGames develops the game because of his genuine enthusiasm makes it even more remarkable. Sorry for language, Kripke’s English is far from perfect.

Strange that there is no fan art thread for NCC. I wonder if you could be so kind to share or at least to give some hint about NCC characters assets, Yvette for example. Please?
it's difficult to share assets because my characters are very customized (most of the time). Often I also personally modify textures and create tattoos (except for Zoe who is an old character to whom I added tattoos later). I usually change piece by piece from nose, eye and lip shape, tits and general physical appearance. That's why most of my characters seem unique and rarely remember characters from other games. That's something I care a lot about
 

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Getting a feeling that the woman in the end of 1.2 is someone working in drug department of the police. And she has kidnapped the MC to offer him a chance to work for him.
 

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Getting a feeling that the woman in the end of 1.2 is someone working in drug department of the police. And she has kidnapped the MC to offer him a chance to work for him.
More likely someone tracking Yoshi as someone else pointed out - as that scene happens with every path, whether the MC is involved with drugs or clean.
 
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