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I find some of the options rather strange. For example, I was given the first opportunity to add a date rape drug to a girl's drink. I was able to have sex with her without using the drug so it was kind of pointless (I tried all three options and reloaded). There were lots of other girls I bought drinks for and was never given an option to add a drug to it (I've had all the drugs on me since the bathroom dealer was available).

It is also really confusing with relationships in this game. The game wants to play like a harem and then it often punishes the player for doing it. It is really confusing at times to figure out what is OK and what isn't. I don't mind this to some degree but too often I'm left guessing and later punished or rewarded for harem type decisions. The inconsistency is good and bad at the same time.

Michelle told me that she hated cocaine and then in another conversation told me that I needed to give it to another girl to get her to sleep with me.

I am really enjoying the game and there is a lot of mystery to it. Juggling lots of relationships is the main challenge of this game so far from what I have seen. It can be rewarding yet frustrating. The good part of the game is that choices don't have a clear path in most cases. This is definitely not like many of the predictable visual novels I've played in the past!
That is currently the only time were you can use the date rape drug. It's not a pointless choice though. Later on in the story there is a specific event that happens if you chose to drug her. Not going to spoil it but if the MC decides to use drugs then someone might use drugs on him (and I'm not talking about the Yoshi thing with the bartender).

It is not possible for a Harem. Even with a mod. Certain girls like certain things and some of the women are friends or in relationships in which they want to be faithful.

And about Michelle... She is my favorite. She has a very unique backstory and personality. She is trying to turn her life around and not fall back into the drug and party lifestyle. However she still remains friends with some people in that life style, like Harley because Harley is genuinely a good friend to her. Talking to other characters about Michelle it's hinted that Michelle is a freak on a leash and doesn't really judge others for how they live their life. Does she do cocaine? No she hates it. Will she help the MC by giving him advice on how to hook up with someone using cocaine? Absolutely. Why? She's kinky like that and I'm not going to judge her for it! lol
 

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And about Michelle... She is my favorite. She has a very unique backstory and personality. She is trying to turn her life around and not fall back into the drug and party lifestyle. However she still remains friends with some people in that life style, like Harley because Harley is genuinely a good friend to her. Talking to other characters about Michelle it's hinted that Michelle is a freak on a leash and doesn't really judge others for how they live their life. Does she do cocaine? No she hates it. Will she help the MC by giving him advice on how to hook up with someone using cocaine? Absolutely. Why? She's kinky like that and I'm not going to judge her for it! lol
Best thing so far is that you have her all to yourself as she doesn‘t see any other guys. Atleast in the current version.
What I am wary of, is the relationship between Michelle and Melissa. Melissa is a drug addict but still pretty hot and her trust stat hints at a redemption path, but I would hate it if getting involved with Melissa blocks you off of Michelle. It would be understandable but I wouldn‘t like it.
I‘m already passing on Yvette, Ashley and Tatianna. I don‘t want to lose Michelle and Melissa, too.
 

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I was confused about this also when I first started playing. It should really be explained in-game. The game starts and says it is part 2 and gives no information on part 1, its name, or where to find it. I had to ask in this thread to get that information.
yeaaah a lot of new people here confused about this at the beginning.. i think there needs to be a developers note on the op page regarding this
 
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Best thing so far is that you have her all to yourself as she doesn‘t see any other guys. Atleast in the current version.
What I am wary of, is the relationship between Michelle and Melissa. Melissa is a drug addict but still pretty hot and her trust stat hints at a redemption path, but I would hate it if getting involved with Melissa blocks you off of Michelle. It would be understandable but I wouldn‘t like it.
I‘m already passing on Yvette, Ashley and Tatianna. I don‘t want to lose Michelle and Melissa, too.
I feel the same way. It is implied that a bouncer and Michelle hook up but that's only if you don't purse her. Other than that I'm really happy as well that Michelle is faithful. Hopefully it will come down to a choice. Like choose Michelle or Melissa. Sounds like we have a similar playthrough going. I passed up on the muscle girls too.
 

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Best thing so far is that you have her all to yourself as she doesn‘t see any other guys. Atleast in the current version.
What I am wary of, is the relationship between Michelle and Melissa. Melissa is a drug addict but still pretty hot and her trust stat hints at a redemption path, but I would hate it if getting involved with Melissa blocks you off of Michelle. It would be understandable but I wouldn‘t like it.
I‘m already passing on Yvette, Ashley and Tatianna. I don‘t want to lose Michelle and Melissa, too.
yeaah melissa and michelle hated each other. that's the unique aspect of this game, you have to think and have multiple paths. there's definietly not a harem and you have to choose between certain girls, HG does this a lot too in his previous games. melissa and michelle interactions is similar too adele and lara, it would be impossible to get them together haha
 

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+ Good and sometimes fun story even if i hate something like sex city. Good models an style, good renders.
- But never will play it, too complex and nerve racking.
 

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I'm working on 1.4 (it's taking a long time because the way I'm handling some events requires a lot of attention) I won't bore you with a detailed explanation of how and what but to make the game smooth with all these paths and events I need to do it.

I'm glad that other players are getting interested in the game. I always read everything you write and sometimes I avoid answering because doing these posts also takes me 15 minutes and I prefer to use them to work on game development.A couple of things, however, I'm always happy to tell you.
Maybe someone missed the event but the reason why Melissa and Michelle hate each other is told by Slim at harley's house. it concerns the party for the wedding of Slim and Valentina. (It is not important for the game, but maybe it is a curiosity that someone has and maybe it will be told other times in the future.)

The (charactername)good relationship only serves to indicate the basic relationship with the characters, I usually use other stats to unlock events. The "good" then allows to access or not to events, but everything happens only if other stats are Ok.
After the first times you meet a character you end up in (name)event or (name)path. and that character decides what happens when you meet the character. The (name)good may at most allow you to change the (name)path on some occasions.

As soon as I finish this release please someone remind me to make a note to add on the front page where I explain Season 1/2 Follower and NCC. If I remember, I will also add something in the intro of the game.
Back to my paths and dialogues.
I hope to release the game as soon as possible
 

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Personally I prefer HoneyGames way of releasing updates. It is true that you have to wait about a month for each one, but on the other hand you get a whole week of content for 1 download instead of just 3 new events on a perhaps more regular basis. But I think it's a good thing that you are so excited about the game that you can't wait for the next update.

jessicajones

It's true that you don't have complete freedom in this game. It's not a sandbox game where you have for example the ability to mindcontrol and then can use it freely on every girl. In order to get out updates in a timely manner and not to lose track of the different paths with all the girls he limited the options. Especially now in the later game where season two comes to a finish he doesn't want the ending to be too open. That makes the transition into a possible follow up easier.

Michelle told you about Melissa to make her look bad, not to help you getting her laid. At least that's my interpretation of the scene.

The game doesn't want you to play the harem route. The game tries to simulate life to some extend. So the game presents you with opportunities, just like life. What you do with them is completely up to you. You could possibly finish the game without fucking anyone.
But when you follow only one girl it sometimes feels like there isn't much happening.


Erock11

I'm asking about implementing it into the original game because I still didn't give up on trying to get something like a walk-through done. But I'm thinking about making it as short as possible and only presenting important dialogue-options and the ones that change possibly important stats. So as long as the requirements for events aren't changed it should be relatively easy to adjust the answers.
At the moment I'm at Day 79 and I will probably upload a list of Events with requirements sorted by timeline next week and a few things that caught my eye and I consider errors in the rpy-files.
I would start the first actual walkthrough after 1.4 is released for the public. Let's see if it turns out the way I hope it will.
 

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The game doesn't want you to play the harem route. The game tries to simulate life to some extend. So the game presents you with opportunities, just like life. What you do with them is completely up to you. You could possibly finish the game without fucking anyone.
But when you follow only one girl it sometimes feels like there isn't much happening.
Let's say that the game is a middle ground, I try to be as realistic as possible, but giving an amount of unreal possibilities. Actually, in order to be real events should be expanded and every week should last one month, a bit like FIFA: in 5 minutes of the game you represent 45 minutes of reality.

Following just one girl makes the game very boring (creating such an interesting path for each girl would require immense work and a team to make it). I could have created a complete path for a girl but I would have certainly disappointed most of the players and I don't like the idea of forcing players to follow one specific girl if they want to play that way. So I decided to create stories for each girl, some more in-depth, so that I could potentially make every girl interesting.
I have tried to give this game the chance to do more things. however, putting limits as in real life, i.e. certain actions will lead to consequences (for example, not talking to Michelle about porn career lowers her stats a lot. talking about it when you have the opportunity to do so lowers her stats, but over time there are opportunities to bring them back up. ) Girls who are only interested in sex if they are neglected start looking for other partners. Some girls after having sex a few times start to get attached (Michelle, Roberta, Zoe) and it also depends on the type of sex (Hard or Romance).

It's obviously not a complete game, to make such a game you would need a team and I'm alone and I have a couple of guys who enjoy helping me. So I tried to find the best balance (in my opinion) between what I would like to do and what I can do.

The biggest mistake I think was to create the two main girlfriend paths with the two muscular girls, but that wasn't my intention, let's say the game was originally written to be a sandbox and Ashley's part was just to unlock Tatianna. When I converted the game to visual novel the part of Ashley was very long and became a girlfriend path.
 

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I'm glad that other players are getting interested in the game. I always read everything you write and sometimes I avoid answering because doing these posts also takes me 15 minutes and I prefer to use them to work on game development.A couple of things, however, I'm always happy to tell you.
Maybe someone missed the event but the reason why Melissa and Michelle hate each other is told by Slim at harley's house. it concerns the party for the wedding of Slim and Valentina. (It is not important for the game, but maybe it is a curiosity that someone has and maybe it will be told other times in the future.)
I checked the file with that event and the first time I didn't read it properly so I actually missed the reason. For anyone interested and who checks the script files, it's in Day 73, search for "slim" and you'll find it.
And for everyone who missed it and doesn't check the files:
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That is currently the only time were you can use the date rape drug.
In fact you can use the drug two more times. But one time you only give it to someone else. And both times it has an impact on how the game plays out. So better keep a save from before making such bold choices like raping someone.


I didn't read it properly so I actually missed the reason
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The biggest mistake I think was to create the two main girlfriend paths with the two muscular girls
If that was the reason why Tatianna's path is quite delayed then I would agree :cautious:
But I really like the opportunities and how Ashley's path is playing out. It's unique enough to keep it interesting for me.

Following just one girl makes the game very boring
I started playing that way after I finished the game the second time. Just to see how it plays out differently. And I kept saves from later into the game to pursue the ones you meet much later. The most tedious one was my only femdom-try. But it's a fetish and I wouldn't overdo it with that kind of content either.
 

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I find some of the options rather strange. For example, I was given the first opportunity to add a date rape drug to a girl's drink. I was able to have sex with her without using the drug so it was kind of pointless (I tried all three options and reloaded). There were lots of other girls I bought drinks for and was never given an option to add a drug to it (I've had all the drugs on me since the bathroom dealer was available).

It is also really confusing with relationships in this game. The game wants to play like a harem and then it often punishes the player for doing it. It is really confusing at times to figure out what is OK and what isn't. I don't mind this to some degree but too often I'm left guessing and later punished or rewarded for harem type decisions. The inconsistency is good and bad at the same time.

Michelle told me that she hated cocaine and then in another conversation told me that I needed to give it to another girl to get her to sleep with me.

I am really enjoying the game and there is a lot of mystery to it. Juggling lots of relationships is the main challenge of this game so far from what I have seen. It can be rewarding yet frustrating. The good part of the game is that choices don't have a clear path in most cases. This is definitely not like many of the predictable visual novels I've played in the past!
Welcome to the world of NCC and finding out you get out of it what you put into it. If you stay loyal to a girl (or girls) they'll stay loyal to you and not get fucked by the likes of David. Like Alfius says, there are only 7 days a week so in theory you can only keep 7 girls content - but some events prevent "visits" on all days so you have to go for mini-harems if you play that way.
 
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Welcome to the world of NCC and finding out you get out of it what you put into it. If you stay loyal to a girl (or girls) they'll stay loyal to you and not get fucked by the likes of David. Like Alfius says, there are only 7 days a week so in theory you can only keep 7 girls content - but some events prevent "visits" on all days so you have to go for mini-harems if you play that way.
The player doesn't have the option of seeing specific girls in a particular day (at least not consistently). The game is a visual novel and is heavily story driven. I've had several girls that went MIA and I lost them because there wasn't enough freedom to spend time with them. I am able to juggle several girls at once as long as I don't date their enemy also. Each girl seems to have someone they despise (which is fine).

My main two squeezes right now are Michelle and Ashley. I like Tatianna also but I haven't been able to make much progress with her (Kirsten also, she is a little minx but I don't want to go the cuck route). I have several "friends with benefits" relationships / fuck buddies.

I'll probably write a review once I finish this version which will be soon. Below is a few comments I'll probably make in my review.

The cast is too large. A large cast is good but it can be taken too far and feel that it happened with this game. I would cut 33% of the characters and have it be more focused on their lives with deeper stories and involvement. I honestly have trouble keeping track of everyone and matching faces with names throughout the game. I'll probably play through it again once new versions are released and it will be easier to keep track of everyone. It kind of feels like starting a new job with lots of employees (new people overload). This game really taxed my memory due to so many new names and faces. Sometimes the game would ask me what decision I'd like to make with a certain character and I honestly couldn't match the name with a face.

Another problem with such a large cast is that many of them are barely used. The player gets introduced to them and has one or two scenes/events with them and then they are largely forgotten. I would try to use existing characters instead of having so many "extras" in the game and not have so many "not so meaningful" contacts.

The author really needs to recruit some fans to go through all the dialog and clean up the English. The English in the game is below average. Most people can figure out what is trying to be said but it would be nice to not have to interpret so many poorly worded lines in the game.

One small complaint is with the sex scenes. The player seems to only be allowed to have one orgasm. Once that is finished, the scene ends. This doesn't reflect real life at all. My husband fucks me three to five times in a row with all of them ending in a cum dump. It is silly that the MC can only cum once per scene.

The story is good and engaging and overall a big success.

Overall, the game is well done.

UPDATE: I just finished the game and wrote an honest and detailed review about it.
 
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Bug - Day 81:

Irene gives the MC and David a blowjob in the park (at the same time). At home, the MC asks David about Irene and mentions the blowjob in the park. David then asks the MC how he knows about it and accuses him of being a voyeur.
 
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Bug - Day 88:

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Bug - 1.3

Character Stats
Nadya - missing
Cecile - missing
Dana - missing
You can blame the missing stats on me. I'm doing the stat screen.
It's basically up to date up until version 1.1
(There is actually a whole lot more missing then the ones you listed)

I'm waiting for some additional info from Honeygames to make sure my stats are relevant.
Also the stats are becoming crowded, so I'm busy changing the interface slightly.

Will release a new stat screen around the same time as 1.4 (All 1.3 Characters)
My stats generally trails one version, since I work on the current published version.
As a fan of the game, I also do not want do be spoiled, so I do not get insight into an upcoming version.
(I only have knowledge of version 1.3 like everyone else. This is by my request. I first want to enjoy the game as a fan, before I do work on the new version of the stats screen.)
This is normally not a big deal, as there is only 1 or 2 new characters per update, but things just went a bit crazy the last couple of updates.
 
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A few suggestions going forward:

The MC's relationship with Adele, Riley, and Keesha is nearly all professional. Yes, there is some flirting but the MC never really gets to date any of them. If that is intentional, I would suggest at least allowing a few business meetings with drinks with the possibility of getting them drunk and taking one of them home (or even adding a drug to their drink without them knowing and have things be awkward between them for a while). I was just a bit disappointed that I never had the opportunity to get my relationship raised much with Adele and Riley. Keesha should really be more willing to explore romance with the MC. I'm not that into Adele, Riley, and Keesha but was disappointed that there were no possibilities there if I was.

The hidden cameras and gps trackers really need to be utilized in the game. There are so many possibilities there. So much potential for depravity, etc.

The getting Rain to be a pornstar path is like beating a dead horse. It goes on and on and on and finally gets so old and boring that I'm no longer interested. She isn't even that hot or attractive in my opinion. I remember recruiting like four or five girls to help me convince her throughout the game and nothing ever comes of it. No feedback, nothing.
 

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A few suggestions going forward:

The MC's relationship with Adele, Riley, and Keesha is nearly all professional. Yes, there is some flirting but the MC never really gets to date any of them. If that is intentional, I would suggest at least allowing a few business meetings with drinks with the possibility of getting them drunk and taking one of them home (or even adding a drug to their drink without them knowing and have things be awkward between them for a while). I was just a bit disappointed that I never had the opportunity to get my relationship raised much with Adele and Riley. Keesha should really be more willing to explore romance with the MC. I'm not that into Adele, Riley, and Keesha but was disappointed that there were no possibilities there if I was.

The hidden cameras and gps trackers really need to be utilized in the game. There are so many possibilities there. So much potential for depravity, etc.

The getting Rain to be a pornstar path is like beating a dead horse. It goes on and on and on and finally gets so old and boring that I'm no longer interested. She isn't even that hot or attractive in my opinion. I remember recruiting like four or five girls to help me convince her throughout the game and nothing ever comes of it. No feedback, nothing.
Adele and Riley is a slow burner. Maybe Adele will become available after the drama around her marriage is resolved. Keesha can give you a BJ, which is admittedly late in the game but it also offers the opportunity to open the path to casual meetings with her. Let‘s hope this gets utilized. HoneyGames I think mentioned that you won’t get intimate with some characters at all.

There are a lot of items which only have one time use or none at all (see some items from the sex shop). So I agree here.

The pornpath is way to prevalent in my opinion. A lot of girls are only there to get them to do porn. Even with Rebecca it seems you can either have a platonic friendship or get her to do porn. Personally I‘m not interested in the porn manager path and I‘m not even sad about the content I miss.
 
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