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hmmmm sometimes this game seems good. but since it mostly caters to NTR crowd even if its avoidable(somewhat). the way it goes about it will push away the non-NTR crowd.

the scene with the blackmailing teacher. you can choose to avoid WATCHING it at best. but in order to save his victim you'll be forced to watch HALF of it. like the groping,handjob and oral. you can prevent the penetration but by then i'd be surprised if most non-NTR players are still playing the game.

this game kinda insinuates a harem game since most characters like MC and others not so much.
basically this game is giving a good example why you don't mix Harem and NTR together cause it tends to not get much of a crowd. that being said i did believe it had potential. but if your gonna make NTR avoidable. make it 100% avoidable. not like the teacher/blackmail scene. MC could've been recording the whole conversation prior to when the groping even began. and had a shit load of evidence against teacher to make him his bitch.

as for Juliette being Jiten toy....yeah also sucks even if you prevent it initially. she still ends up with him.

really a confusing game in terms of searching for an audience.

just to clarify. im just assuming it has a Harem path because it feels like it. no actual evidence of it.

also i know the girl was blackmailed into sex hence the blackmail tag. but the whole time she was resisting prior to penetration....so maybe a rape tag is needed.
Ah.. So yea.. Good thing I'm going to pass on this..

Half assed avoidable NTR turned partially avoidable rape.. And one girl leaving by default..
 

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i also dont remember if MC had a phone or not during the bathroom scene with Juliette. but if he did he could have recorded that encounter(choice to record) and used it as material as well to stop Jiten from using her. of course he'd plan to get rid of that evidence but until then he'd have reason to not take advantage of her. as for the park scene...im like eh on it but it could be removed so when we first see Juliette it would be as if her blackmailing had JUST started.

but yeah this game has a hell of an undertaking considering all the routes. and the half assed avoidable NTR is risky in terms of attracting Patrons.

honestly i was keeping an eye on this game until the most recent update... now im just "whatver happens, happens".
 

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what kind of NTR does this game have?
From what I remember right(might be wrong) there is the mean girl/basic bitch she is with the bad boy if you don't make the right choses and a schoolgirl gets taken advantage of by her teacher if you don't interfere and a lady at a casino if you lose the card game bad boy fucks her.
 
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From what I remember right(might be wrong) there is the mean girl/basic bitch she is with the bad boy if you don't make the right choses and a schoolgirl gets taken advantage of by her teacher if you don't interfere and a lady at a casino if you lose the card game bad boy fucks her.
sounds about right except the mean girl is also being used/taken advantage of by bad boy because his family is elite.
 
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If the NTR is not 100% avoidable then the (avoidable) part needs to be removed because people that do not like NTR are going to come across these scenes and straight up close the game and delete it. By saying its avoidable it not being truthful and the dev will lose the trust of people playing the game. This seems to be a bad habit some devs are getting into and its kind of a big fuck you to the non NTR crowd.
The teacher scene alone should have been stoppable at petting if NTR was avoidable as said it would never have made it past that part without the MC stepping in thats the first lie about being avoidable so it makes players wonder how far the dev will be shoving ntr into non ntr peoples faces. As someone else also stated this acts like a harem game and ntr and harem do not mix.
 

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If the NTR is not 100% avoidable then the (avoidable) part needs to be removed because people that do not like NTR are going to come across these scenes and straight up close the game and delete it. By saying its avoidable it not being truthful and the dev will lose the trust of people playing the game. This seems to be a bad habit some devs are getting into and its kind of a big fuck you to the non NTR crowd.
The teacher scene alone should have been stoppable at petting if NTR was avoidable as said it would never have made it past that part without the MC stepping in thats the first lie about being avoidable so it makes players wonder how far the dev will be shoving ntr into non ntr peoples faces. As someone else also stated this acts like a harem game and ntr and harem do not mix.
I didn't lie about the "avoidable" NTR aspect. The scene with the teacher is not NTR. Sonoko is not someone the MC knows, he is not interested in her. It is voyeurism.
The remark about the separation of the NTR road and the Harem road is interesting though. I can see why this scene might be disturbing for players who choose the Harem path. If I ever develop New Environment again, I'll keep that in mind.
 
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I didn't lie about the "avoidable" NTR aspect. The scene with the teacher is not NTR. Sonoko is not someone the MC knows, he is not interested in her. It is voyeurism.
The remark about the separation of the NTR road and the Harem road is interesting though. I can see why this scene might be disturbing for players who choose the Harem path. If I ever develop New Environment again, I'll keep that in mind.
are you working on a new project or something? just curious.

also to save you some time from future arguments. for a pretty decent majority if at any point the MC is expected to hook up with a girl at any time in the story many will consider it NTR. doesnt matter what the MC feel it'll be more how the players feel since its pretty common the players want to immerse themselves into the story. its pretty much what seperates VN's from porn.

hell in most cases Non-NTR players dont even wanna see another dick besides MC unless they're absolutely trying to go for an NTR route.

i'll admit the game seemed interesting to me just had a few issues that i didnt like. but overall pretty good.
 

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are you working on a new project or something? just curious.
I'm not developing another game (and I don't plan to do that). I have other things, but I'm making little progress. Honestly, my priority at the moment is to meet new people, enjoy life, have fun :cool:! I didn't do this enough in 2020 so :Kappa:...
 

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I'm not developing another game (and I don't plan to do that). I have other things, but I'm making little progress. Honestly, my priority at the moment is to meet new people, enjoy life, have fun :cool:! I didn't do this enough in 2020 so :Kappa:...
completely understandable. (y)
 
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The remark about the separation of the NTR road and the Harem road is interesting though. I can see why this scene might be disturbing for players who choose the Harem path. If I ever develop New Environment again, I'll keep that in mind.
If even you can see how it would effect others then its obvious that the scene should not go as far as it did. Before you go too far down the rabbit hole with the game maybe you might want to rethink that now and change that scene to avoid even more people going off about it. I am not trying to be a ass here just trying to get you to think ahead like the player would be doing because NTR of this sort is seriously disturbing to the non NTR crowd.
Just go to any other game that claims its avoidable yet its not and the forum posts are a war zone from both sides of the fence. Do yourself a favor now and correct it before its too late and you have a war zone in your own forum section because they will call you on it over and over. Simply put avoidable means it doesnt happen at all not even a little it is stopped before it starts.
 

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The game has NTR and also has (full penetration?) rape, separate, or the game has rape that's also NTR?
Don't mind either on their own, depends the details, when combined though depends how bad it emasculate the PC and what he can do to get even.
 

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I played a little of the game and honestly i enjoyed it.

Hope later be continued..
 
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