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VN Ren'Py New Year's Day(e) [Ch. 4 v0.4.1] [Jonesy]

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Anon4321

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Anti step family patch coming soon yall? Asking for a family friend. >_>
Unfortunately
The last dialogue in the update (0.2.3), will make an anti-step family patch moot
Having an anti-step family patch won't make sense in the context of the story
 
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Tiur

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Unfortunately
The last dialogue in the update (0.2.3), will make an anti-step family patch moot
Having an anti-step family patch qon't make sense in the context of the story
Came here to post just this now that it's out. As of this release, stepcest is now plot-relevant so it can't easily be edited out anymore.
 

Ogre

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Thanks so much. I'm really glad you're digging everything so far. You're absolutely right about some of renders and animations being questionable. I didn't really know what the hell I was doing during the first 3 chapters of Christmas Eve. I only started getting a clue as to how to use Ren'Py, Daz, and everything else during the last chapter. I definitely want to go back and redo CE. Keep the story, characters, and character models the same, but change/improve a bunch of other stuff.
Hey, don't bother. Your first effort was good. Use those new skills to create something new. I'm sure your brain is full of depraved ideas.
 
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msleomac

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I added the age choice to the "no-step" patch posted by TomHook. (The age choice script above didn't have the "no-step" corrections).

So THIS IS THE ULTIMATE incest and age patch for v.0.1.

It also has improved outlines for better readability when the textbox is transparent. Save it as "script.rpy" and replace the original "script.rpy" in "games" folder. (First make a backup of the original file just in case).

Also here is a tiny little mod for better dialogue style (a bit larger text, a wider and transparent textbox). It works well for screens like 16:9 or 16:10. It works for most other Ren'Py games as well. Just save it as "say.rpy" and drop it into "games" folder. To remove it: remove "say.rpy" and "say.rpyc" from "games" folder.
does this apply for the latest version?
 

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SonsOfLiberty

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Aww no its fake incest now?
? It always has been, the patch was just easier to do.

But with it being plot relevant (for ones that like to read instead of it just being named daughter/mom/sis :ROFLMAO: ) it would require someone to rewrite bits of dialogue. Someone might do it, someone might not.
 
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Avaron1974

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Aww no its fake incest now?
They were always his step kids, that was canon to the plot but it wasn't made plot important until this update.

In chapter 1 someone could make a patch for incest because the plot didn't get heavily into their relationship, now it has so it can't be easily patched out now.

The only way for someone to make it incest now would be to either rewrite some of the plot or remove bits entirely and make a mod. Doing that would give plot holes though.
 

yoonbalol

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well, step-shit aside, can age be set manually like in the first game? I see references to a mod above but for 0.1. what do?
 

Elduriel

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well, step-shit aside, can age be set manually like in the first game? I see references to a mod above but for 0.1. what do?
I don't even recall age being mentioned in this game so far and I played it this morning
 
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Actually retarded making step shit canon.

People like their kinks, let people set their relationships. I don't want to play a game where people are calling each other step-friend, step-cousin, landlady, tennant.

It's fucking stupid. Don't put an incest tag then force step-shit down our throats.
 

*Jonesy*

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Actually retarded making step shit canon.

People like their kinks, let people set their relationships. I don't want to play a game where people are calling each other step-friend, step-cousin, landlady, tennant.

It's fucking stupid. Don't put an incest tag then force step-shit down our throats.
Wow. I knew I was gonna stir up some shit with that ending, but I had no idea I'd receive this level of backlash!
All I ask is that everyone reserve judgement until later in the series. Keep in mind, this is chapter 2 of a 7 chapter story. There are lots of things to be revealed in the coming chapters. I am not here to force anything down anyone's throat. I'm here to write a story. A story that has twists and turns, will play with your emotions and keep you guessing. How boring would it be if every story was the same? If every story followed the "rules" of that genre? I guess what I'm asking for is a little trust. Besides, we all have our kinks, me included! ;)
 

Anon4321

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Wow. I knew I was gonna stir up some shit with that ending, but I had no idea I'd receive this level of backlash!
All I ask is that everyone reserve judgement until later in the series. Keep in mind, this is chapter 2 of a 7 chapter story. There are lots of things to be revealed in the coming chapters. I am not here to force anything down anyone's throat. I'm here to write a story. A story that has twists and turns, will play with your emotions and keep you guessing. How boring would it be if every story was the same? If every story followed the "rules" of that genre? I guess what I'm asking for is a little trust. Besides, we all have our kinks, me included! ;)
No worries, just keep doing what you're doing
 

Tiur

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Wow. I knew I was gonna stir up some shit with that ending, but I had no idea I'd receive this level of backlash!
All I ask is that everyone reserve judgement until later in the series. Keep in mind, this is chapter 2 of a 7 chapter story. There are lots of things to be revealed in the coming chapters. I am not here to force anything down anyone's throat. I'm here to write a story. A story that has twists and turns, will play with your emotions and keep you guessing. How boring would it be if every story was the same? If every story followed the "rules" of that genre? I guess what I'm asking for is a little trust. Besides, we all have our kinks, me included! ;)
The main issue is that reserving judgement doesn't do much once the incest has been identified as fake or as stepcest. Incest fans generally consider stepcest worse than being completely unrelated to each other, because it feels like a copout. It's the stupid workaround mainstream porn 'stories' use instead of just roleplaying full incest. You hadn't gotten a lot of that backlash yet, because it was very subtle, only really identified in a single line that could easily be edited out. Christmas Eve has all the hallmarks of a full-incest story, and it was generally assumed to be one. This one did at first as well, with the single 'step' line early in the game ineffectually intended to deflect Patreon's attentions, until the end of this update.

As everyone said, it recontextualizes the whole game in significantly negative directions, and it is particularly damaging to the assumptions about Heather's intentions.

If the intent of the stepcest story instead of full incest was to evade Patreon's rules, that will not work. If someone reports it to Patreon, they will come after you anyway. Step/adopted/foster relations don't matter to Patreon, they're all incest. That's why most Patreon-successful incest stories use "roommates", "landlords", "landladies", and "tenants".

If the intent is to cause drama and have an antagonist trying to take the kids away, a common tactic full-incest games use is for it to be the dead wife's parents who are trying to take the kids away from the widower husband MC. That preserves the dead wife as having only been with the MC, preserves the girls as actually being the MC's instead of being someone else's kids he's fucking, and just generally is a better structure for the story.

While we all have our kinks, this change loses incest fans for good. I've already dropped my support, as I'm sure you saw, and it already damages that trust you're asking for.

If there's something that would salvage the story for incest fans, or if there's some reason this recontextualization isn't as damaging as we're all taking it to be, I'd recommend talking about it now rather than waiting another several months for the next update. Once your game is completed (or even once the next update comes along, if it adds more explanation for these issues), there isn't any further reason to keep spoilers secret, and if you lose all your players and support while working on completing it, what benefit did maintaining those spoilers actually provide other than annoying some people for a few months?
 

Elduriel

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If the intent of the stepcest story instead of full incest was to evade Patreon's rules, that will not work. If someone reports it to Patreon, they will come after you anyway. Step/adopted/foster relations don't matter to Patreon, they're all incest. That's why most Patreon-successful incest stories use "roommates", "landlords", "landladies", and "tenants".
well Single Again is actually full on stepcest which is an integral part of the plot (not a cop out) and it does quite well on patreon
 

Tiur

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well Single Again is actually full on stepcest which is an integral part of the plot (not a cop out) and it does quite well on patreon
Single Again is also not an incest story. It has never pretended to be one. We knew, before every sexual interaction with any of the girls, that none of them were blood-related to the MC of it.

Again, the issue here is that Christmas Eve is an incest story, and New Year's Day(e) recontextualizes it to not have been. It is a bait-and-switch for someone the MC has already had sex with (Eve).
 
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