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bajoz

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If is not a Dl-Site exclusive, at the moment is not listed as such, he will probably upload a censurable or uncesored version on some other smaller platform :BootyTime:.
In the meantime, is it me or you can recognize millennials from gen z here from the punctuation and grammar? Like the correct use of capital letters and the full stop at the end of a single line reply? I am a bored Italian millennials :HideThePain:.
 
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and there is no other platform where to sell the game? I don't know (steam?) I saw that many people recommended him to use steam but... he doesn't even read them, is there a law so that he can't use steam or something like that?
They would need a publisher to release it on steam uncensored since you can't just use a different site to get around your own country's laws. There's a bigger issue though which I will put below.

Like I said before, as an adult game shop, there's ways around this.

To me, them changing the way they operate is hard, but not impossible and not that expensive. Steam doesn't have a problem releasing Japanese games without a hard baked censor, and neither do other websites. Why? Because they don't operate in Japan, and thus don't have to obey such absurd and hideous laws.

The way to go is simple; DLSITE wants to sell to everyone? Then they should stop operating in Japan as a company, as go to another country just as the "office building" for this company. It might be initially costly to migrate(Although, they wouldn't even have to, servers are servers), but on the long run they would benefit from more sales, cause I NEVER buy censored games, I always download them, which I wouldn't do in most cases if they weren't censored.

Until they decide to grow some balls and act on this, I will continue my "childish" rebellion against DLsite and censored works that come hard baked in.
I wouldn't use Steam as an example here. Steam's issues with japanese games are well documented at this point. For instance, they recently banned Chaos Head Noah, though that was overturned which is extremely rare when they do that. More cynical minds would say it is because Valve at the time was recently showing off the Steam Deck in Japan and it was a bad look that they had banned a game that Nintendo had no problem with. They mentioned there would be changes going forward with this kind of thing that would hopefully eliminate or reduce the chances of it happening, but they proved that it was likely a lie as when Jast asked about looking at Full Metal Daemon Muramasa, Valve said "We are not re-reviewing previously banned apps." This game was allowed just fine at GOG and has a streamer mode.

Whatever the case, Valve or somebody at Valve doesn't appear to like many japanese games as evidenced by how many of them get banned or rejected despite being within the terms of service, or even outright safe for work versions safe to stream on youtube or twitch. They banned the SFW version of Bokuten because the publisher forgot one or two images in the files. These images were not accessible without specific tools. And of course, many japanese publishers outright don't even try to release a game uncensored, because that increases the chance of getting rejected or banned. And I repeat that rejections or bans are very rarely overturned. So it's no wonder why so many publishers don't take a chance and just put out a patch on their site for a sfw steam version (and even then this can cause the game to get banned, and publishers aren't allowed to even mention it on the store or forums).



My point is, Steam isn't the silver bullet people want it to be in this situation. Dlis would need a publisher to publish the uncensored version, and there's always the chance that it gets rejected or banned somewhere down the line. That said, it's likely that there will be at least a partial uncensor patch unofficially since a good chunk of what is in version 0.54 is uncensored. From what I remembered, all of the assets were originally uncensored, but at some point in the last couple years they began censoring new assets. It's likely what tripped DLSite was seeing the older assets that were uncensored. It sucks that Dlsite didn't want it as is, but I have heard of incidents where publishers and distributors got in trouble for selling works that weren't considered to be censored enough.

Japanese lawmakers are largely dinosaurs at this point who don't really see the need or desire to reduce or remove the censorship laws. And because it was pretty easy to just remove the mosaic for us, it would have been just as easy for Japanese people to use those tools and remove the censorship. I assume DLSite doesn't want to look like they are just skirting around the law, otherwise pretty much any Unity game could have this done and basically be sold more or less uncensored if you know how to patch it. The good news is that these laws likely won't be there forever as there are more and more younger politicians that came from manga/anime/game creating backgrounds that have pushed to have these laws removed or at least reduced. It will just take time because Japan seems to move at a snails pace when it comes to policy changes.
 

Knight6797

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They would need a publisher to release it on steam uncensored since you can't just use a different site to get around your own country's laws. There's a bigger issue though which I will put below.



I wouldn't use Steam as an example here. Steam's issues with japanese games are well documented at this point. For instance, they recently banned Chaos Head Noah, though that was overturned which is extremely rare when they do that. More cynical minds would say it is because Valve at the time was recently showing off the Steam Deck in Japan and it was a bad look that they had banned a game that Nintendo had no problem with. They mentioned there would be changes going forward with this kind of thing that would hopefully eliminate or reduce the chances of it happening, but they proved that it was likely a lie as when Jast asked about looking at Full Metal Daemon Muramasa, Valve said "We are not re-reviewing previously banned apps." This game was allowed just fine at GOG and has a streamer mode.

Whatever the case, Valve or somebody at Valve doesn't appear to like many japanese games as evidenced by how many of them get banned or rejected despite being within the terms of service, or even outright safe for work versions safe to stream on youtube or twitch. They banned the SFW version of Bokuten because the publisher forgot one or two images in the files. These images were not accessible without specific tools. And of course, many japanese publishers outright don't even try to release a game uncensored, because that increases the chance of getting rejected or banned. And I repeat that rejections or bans are very rarely overturned. So it's no wonder why so many publishers don't take a chance and just put out a patch on their site for a sfw steam version (and even then this can cause the game to get banned, and publishers aren't allowed to even mention it on the store or forums).



My point is, Steam isn't the silver bullet people want it to be in this situation. Dlis would need a publisher to publish the uncensored version, and there's always the chance that it gets rejected or banned somewhere down the line. That said, it's likely that there will be at least a partial uncensor patch unofficially since a good chunk of what is in version 0.54 is uncensored. From what I remembered, all of the assets were originally uncensored, but at some point in the last couple years they began censoring new assets. It's likely what tripped DLSite was seeing the older assets that were uncensored. It sucks that Dlsite didn't want it as is, but I have heard of incidents where publishers and distributors got in trouble for selling works that weren't considered to be censored enough.

Japanese lawmakers are largely dinosaurs at this point who don't really see the need or desire to reduce or remove the censorship laws. And because it was pretty easy to just remove the mosaic for us, it would have been just as easy for Japanese people to use those tools and remove the censorship. I assume DLSite doesn't want to look like they are just skirting around the law, otherwise pretty much any Unity game could have this done and basically be sold more or less uncensored if you know how to patch it. The good news is that these laws likely won't be there forever as there are more and more younger politicians that came from manga/anime/game creating backgrounds that have pushed to have these laws removed or at least reduced. It will just take time because Japan seems to move at a snails pace when it comes to policy changes.
Yea I agree, it is always just stupid seeing people say "why doesn't he just publish on another site" since for D-lis himself it is not possible. You need another publisher for that. Also, only looking at the financial aspect, it doesn't make sense for him to do it right now: if it's for example Steam+Kagura, then both take a cut from the price of the game while on Dlsite you only have one. Also, the game would need a translation and a simple MTL wouldn't cut it so the publisher would have to translate it themselves which (as we all know) takes a very long time to do. After that they would also need to uncensor it, which again takes some time for it to afterwards land in the west, where at best it reaches maybe a fraction of the sales it reaches in Japan.

So tell me people: Why would D-lis fuck himself even more for a few idiots complaining here that he can't break the fucking law? If you don't want to buy it don't, but don't complain about D-lis doing something wrong...
 

shamu8dc

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Dlsite will let you sell a game where bugs rape a girl so much she starts laying eggs, but you better put mosaic over the pussy or you are in trouble. Hilarious and sad
ironically the strict pornographic censorship laws are part of the reason that japan has such a "unique" reputation for hypercharged coomer media, from how i understand it "abnormal" fetish stuff like bukkake, gokkun, tentacles, etc. became more common as compensation for having to blur a lot of it out.

"As semen shapes itself to the vessel that contains it, so a wise man adapts himself to circumstances"
 

omp123

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Mmh...Personally you have seen me defending the censor in games here before; The creator can't do jackshit about it.

But in this case, I'm sorry, but IF the game can't be uncensored, I'm just downloading it instead of buying it(And I had the DLsite points ready for it, actually).

If you buy it, you're saying you're okay with this ridiculous law. YOur money is better spent if you download the game, and donate TO THE DEVELOPER. I know DLsite is "not to blame", because laws are laws, but I haven't seen them complain either.

My support is going to only the developer, if the game comes out uncensorable. Otherwise, I'll do the DLsite purchase.
Do you honestly think a hentai game developer is going to overthrow the japanese government lmao

D-Lis said he's thankful that Dlsite is managing restrictions because if they weren't and he published the game in a way that breaks japanese law, HE will go to jail or pay a massive fine, not Dlsite.

He's just making the best out of the hand he's been given. He was heart-broken but he's doing what has to be done to get this shit out into the world. Dlsite is doing their due diligence so these devs don't get thrown in jail. The rest of the world has to follow its own rules and sometimes those rules suck for no reason. You can pirate whatever you want, but this justification is bullshit, just say you don't wanna pay because you don't have to, you're not standing for any moral high-ground here.
 

Amy_Mors

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Do you honestly think a hentai game developer is going to overthrow the japanese government lmao

D-Lis said he's thankful that Dlsite is managing restrictions because if they weren't and he published the game in a way that breaks japanese law, HE will go to jail or pay a massive fine, not Dlsite.

He's just making the best out of the hand he's been given. He was heart-broken but he's doing what has to be done to get this shit out into the world. Dlsite is doing their due diligence so these devs don't get thrown in jail. The rest of the world has to follow its own rules and sometimes those rules suck for no reason. You can pirate whatever you want, but this justification is bullshit, just say you don't wanna pay because you don't have to, you're not standing for any moral high-ground here.
It sounds like D-lis is doing their best working with an out of date law that is sadly strictly enforced, and DLsite is doing their best to protect their supporters. I know for sure I will be buying this game day 1 when it finally gets approved on DLsite, just the demos that have been uploaded have given me plenty of entertainment.
 

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Do you honestly think a hentai game developer is going to overthrow the japanese government lmao

D-Lis said he's thankful that Dlsite is managing restrictions because if they weren't and he published the game in a way that breaks japanese law, HE will go to jail or pay a massive fine, not Dlsite.

He's just making the best out of the hand he's been given. He was heart-broken but he's doing what has to be done to get this shit out into the world. Dlsite is doing their due diligence so these devs don't get thrown in jail. The rest of the world has to follow its own rules and sometimes those rules suck for no reason. You can pirate whatever you want, but this justification is bullshit, just say you don't wanna pay because you don't have to, you're not standing for any moral high-ground here.
You either didn't read me or you misunderstood the whole text in your -probable- fanatism causing you to think I was attacking D-Lis.

I'm literally saying to download the game and support the developer directly instead of DLSITE who's not moving a fucking finger to avoid these stupid laws, which other places do PERFECTLY avoid.
 

omp123

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Do you honestly think a hentai game developer is going to overthrow the japanese government lmao

D-Lis said he's thankful that Dlsite is managing restrictions because if they weren't and he published the game in a way that breaks japanese law, HE will go to jail or pay a massive fine, not Dlsite.

He's just making the best out of the hand he's been given.
You either didn't read me or you misunderstood the whole text in your -probable- fanatism causing you to think I was attacking D-Lis.

I'm literally saying to download the game and support the developer directly instead of DLSITE who's not moving a fucking finger to avoid these stupid laws, which other places do PERFECTLY avoid.
What other sites that distribute games in japan skirt japanese laws?
 

SybilleViola

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Once upon a midnight dreary, while i pounded, my meat severly,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of hentai games scored—
While I waited, website chatting, suddenly there came a sapping,
As DLsite delay my fapping, fapping for D-lis' hentai game.
"Tis some censor," I muttered, "backing for D-lis' hentai game—
Only this, then wait nevermore."

-"The Night of Revenge."
by Edgar Coomer Poe
 
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If is not a Dl-Site exclusive, at the moment is not listed as such, he will probably upload a censurable or uncesored version on some other smaller platform :BootyTime:.
In the meantime, is it me or you can recognize millennials from gen z here from the punctuation and grammar? Like the correct use of capital letters and the full stop at the end of a single line reply? I am a bored Italian millennials :HideThePain:.
I'm Gen Z and I'm one of the people that gets upset over incorrect grammar. Some people are just lazy.
 

weisshexe

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Mmh...Personally you have seen me defending the censor in games here before; The creator can't do jackshit about it.

But in this case, I'm sorry, but IF the game can't be uncensored, I'm just downloading it instead of buying it(And I had the DLsite points ready for it, actually).

If you buy it, you're saying you're okay with this ridiculous law. YOur money is better spent if you download the game, and donate TO THE DEVELOPER. I know DLsite is "not to blame", because laws are laws, but I haven't seen them complain either.

My support is going to only the developer, if the game comes out uncensorable. Otherwise, I'll do the DLsite purchase.
I'm still gonna buy the game regard if it is censored. D-lis worked hard on this and needs the income to make another smash hit. If I could, I'd give an extra 50% when purchasing the game that would go directly to D-lis.
 

randylingster

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Once upon a midnight dreary, while i pounded, my meat severly,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of hentai games scored—
While I waited, website chatting, suddenly there came a sapping,
As DLsite delay my fapping, fapping for D-lis' hentai game.
"Tis some censor," I muttered, "backing for D-lis' hentai game—
Only this, then wait nevermore."

-"The Night of Revenge."
by Edgar Coomer Poe
seeing as this appears to be your second post you probably now have the highest average quality per post on the site and are legally required to post more
unless all laws are as dumb as japanese law ig idk
 
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I think he might be using some kind of japanese equivalent of patreon? Idk about sub, but last I checked, patr prohibits content with rape or animals. Probably even if those animals are monsters that merely have mild resemblance. Either way, you might get into trouble and get a mild headache.
I mean theres shit like Iris in the Labyrinth of Demons on Patreon so idk man. Maybe its just the guro stuff thats the issue
 
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SybilleViola

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seeing as this appears to be your second post you probably now have the highest average quality per post on the site and are legally required to post more
unless all laws are as dumb as japanese law ig idk

"Ah, distinctly I remember it was close to bleak November;
and each separate dying seamen wrought it's ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly we wished the morrow;—mainly I who sought to borrow
From this forum surcease of cooming— cooming for the Aradia—
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the dev named Aradia—
Blameless here for evermore."

"The Night of Revenge"
part two; by Edgar Coomer Poe
 

randylingster

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"Ah, distinctly I remember it was close to bleak November;
and each separate dying seamen wrought it's ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly we wished the morrow;—mainly I who sought to borrow
From this forum surcease of cooming— cooming for the Aradia—
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the dev named Aradia—
Blameless here for evermore."

"The Night of Revenge"
part two; by Edgar Coomer Poe
didn't expect to be treated to a masterpiece in a thread waiting for an H release but I am here for it, like damn
 
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