VN Ren'Py No More Money [v3.5.1 S3 Ep.5 GE] [RoyalCandy]

[KrusherKev]

ia being 3 month...when does next update will release?

Going to take an educated guess and say it will be released when ready??? Seriously.....last estimate was sometime in March for patreon supporters, maybe the weekly update tomorrow will bring some good news as to progress Should be a great episode

 

[BorgiaBou]

ia being 3 month...when does next update will release?

Don't worry the dev is working full time on this now so updates should come faster...

 

[Ara-sH]

ia being 3 month...when does next update will release?

Dev said he aim for this month.

 

[royalcandy]

Dev said he aim for this month.

That is the goal, but since I was able to make only 400/1100 scenes (renders+animations) in January, releasing the game this month, might be a tight window. The goal didn't changed, but it doesn't look good.

 

[jhonatanw]

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Hi guys,
How is everybody doing?
PROGRESS STATUS
This week I have focused mainly on Sheila's path and I'm happy to let you know that I've finished that. Now the remaining 60% of this episode's renders are about Tris, Charlotte and a little bit of Denise and Katrina. That being said we are still long way from finishing it, but we're getting there.

My initial goal was to finish this episode in February, but looking back at January, I only managed to do 37% of the total renders (400) and 25% of the animations(20) which is , so if I'm being honest I don't see how that is possible. My goal hasn't changed and I will keep on working like I need to release this episode in February, but I don't see how.
I told you that I won't give you a release date, because I don't like to lie to you, but one thing I know for sure and this promise I can keep. This episode will be released before April. So if it's not done in February then I'm sure it will be done in March, no matter what.

That being said, I wish you all a wonderful weekend.

Bests,
Jason

 

[TheZame]

This is becoming more and more ridiculous. There are always some excuses in every Friday blog post haha. There are always new excuses coming up. I'm glad I don't pay a dollar in support for this. Ridiculously, the next release is probably at the end of March. But only if the next blog post doesn't suddenly say that his PC exploded and it's postponed until December.

 

[merin_aspic]

my initial goal was before Christmas

then January

I hope it will be sometime in February,

My initial goal was to finish this episode in February

I need to release this episode in February, but I don't see how

So if it's not done in February then I'm sure it will be done in March

 

[Harem4life]

Is there a petition we can sign to make him go back to work in this game part-time?

I think he was way more regular when he had a full time job and only did this game part-time.

 

[hoshimota]

<It doesn't come through in the quotes but Merin showed the dev saying the update was supposed to come in Dec then Jan then Feb now saying Feb not likely>

This is one of the main reasons why I simply refuse to participate in this bizarre modern system of paying for games via Patreon subscriptions. I am not going to freaking pay to help beta test a game as it is being developed (and the vast majority of which ultimately end up getting abandoned.) This is a fundamentally broken model that actually rewards devs for taking longer to do work. This is why you never pay a contractor a daily rate to remodel your kitchen, you agree upon a flat rate for the whole job - if you made it a daily rate, it would magically take way longer. This is not rocket science.

If and when a game is 100% finished I will happily pay a reasonable price for it, just like any other game.

This system of handing over money every month for years and years and years to some dev to keep working on a game, is some next level cuck bullshit. (And also the amount some of you guys pay over the long term is absurd, you can buy finished games, including yes H games, for like a fraction of what you wind up paying out in Patreon donations.)

And for the record this problem is not unique to adult games. You see the same exact problem with the whole "early access" program on Steam.

 

[Harem4life]

<It doesn't come through in the quotes but Merin showed the dev saying the update was supposed to come in Dec then Jan then Feb now saying Feb not likely>

This is one of the main reasons why I simply refuse to participate in this bizarre modern system of paying for games via Patreon subscriptions. I am not going to freaking pay to help beta test a game as it is being developed (and the vast majority of which ultimately end up getting abandoned.) This is a fundamentally broken model that actually rewards devs for taking longer to do work. This is why you never pay a contractor a daily rate to remodel your kitchen, you agree upon a flat rate for the whole job - if you made it a daily rate, it would magically take way longer. This is not rocket science.

If and when a game is 100% finished I will happily pay a reasonable price for it, just like any other game.

This system of handing over money every month for years and years and years to some dev to keep working on a game, is some next level cuck bullshit. (And also the amount some of you guys pay over the long term is absurd, you can buy finished games, including yes H games, for like a fraction of what you wind up paying out in Patreon donations.)

And for the record this problem is not unique to adult games. You see the same exact problem with the whole "early access" program on Steam.

The same reason why many are against using AI. If graphics are rendered quickly they won't have enough time to milk people.

 

[Razrback16]

For folks upset about the delay, remember if you aren't backing on Patreon, this is nothing to worry about because you're not paying anyway. I always encourage anyone who is impatient or gets frustrated about development delays, etc. just don't get on Patreon and wait for a Steam release to pay for the product (payment upon receipt like in a normal store for a product, etc.) if you like it and want more of it and that should help keep you relaxed.

Patreon is more for people who want to actively help the developer get a project completed since they generally need funding for the project (hardware, assets, etc.). I only back one project on Patreon currently (Summer's Gone), and it's a very low dollar amount. No More Money is probably my 2nd favorite game on this site just because of how well Jason is handling the mom / sis routes. I'd jump on his Patreon if he ever gets the music situation resolved - I can't tell you all how bummed out I was when the music had to get removed because Jason does such a great job selecting music that fits the scenes, and especially syncs with some of the animations (Tris blowjob scene, holy crap that was well-done before the music got zapped).

 

[Harem4life]

For folks upset about the delay, remember if you aren't backing on Patreon, this is nothing to worry about because you're not paying anyway. I always encourage anyone who is impatient or gets frustrated about development delays, etc. just don't get on Patreon and wait for a Steam release to pay for the product (payment upon receipt like in a normal store for a product, etc.) if you like it and want more of it and that should help keep you relaxed.

Patreon is more for people who want to actively help the developer get a project completed since they generally need funding for the project (hardware, assets, etc.). I only back one project on Patreon currently (Summer's Gone), and it's a very low dollar amount. No More Money is probably my 2nd favorite game on this site just because of how well Jason is handling the mom / sis routes. I'd jump on his Patreon if he ever gets the music situation resolved - I can't tell you all how bummed out I was when the music had to get removed because Jason does such a great job selecting music that fits the scenes, and especially syncs with some of the animations (Tris blowjob scene, holy crap that was well-done before the music got zapped).

Well, people are invested in this game, paid or not, so they actually feel bad when Dev's delay updates again and again. It's only natural.

The music in this game is one of the huge reasons why I like this game. I even have some of the songs in my Spotify. It's unfortunate that he had to remove some songs. Couldn't he just buy the copyright of those songs.

I would love to have the list of those deleted songs

btw summer's gone is even more irregular when it comes to updates.

 

[BorgiaBou]

Is there a petition we can sign to make him go back to work in this game part-time?

I think he was way more regular when he had a full time job and only did this game part-time.

Lool, preach...

 

[Razrback16]

Well, people are invested in this game, paid or not, so they actually feel bad when Dev's delay updates again and again. It's only natural.

The music in this game is one of the huge reasons why I like this game. I even have some of the songs in my Spotify. It's unfortunate that he had to remove some songs. Couldn't he just buy the copyright of those songs.

I would love to have the list of those deleted songs

btw summer's gone is even more irregular when it comes to updates.

Yep I totally get how you feel. Just trying to put forth something positive to focus on that for folks who aren't on Patreon, it's not like they're out anything monetarily. Can always reward the Dev with money after they've had a chance to play it on an official platform like Steam - for the vast majority of games I play, that's where I buy them once I've checked them out here. Anytime I get to the end of the game and ask myself "do I want more of this?" that's when I buy if the answer is yes.

And yeah, Jason is one of the best developers on here in terms of selecting music to fit scenes. I'm honestly not sure if I've ever seen any do it better so far out of the games I've played. I hope he is able to find a way to re-incorporate music as the silent scenes are very noticeable.

 

[royalcandy]

Is there a petition we can sign to make him go back to work in this game part-time?

I think he was way more regular when he had a full time job and only did this game part-time.

The episodes I was making before doing this full time were simpler.
They only had 2000-2500 lines of code, 250-350 renders and 5-15 animations (30 frames best case).
This episode has more than 5000 lines, around 1100 renders, 90 animations (120-960 frames). I have become more picky about my work so this is why it takes more time.
Only in January I have made 400+ renders and 22 animations.

 

[Joshy92]

And this isn't a kinetic novel which means it is even more work for the dev.
Doing different renders & stuff for different branches.

This is a great game with really good erotic build up.
It's worth waiting for.

 

[Harem4life]

The episodes I was making before doing this full time were simpler.
They only had 2000-2500 lines of code, 250-350 renders and 5-15 animations (30 frames best case).
This episode has more than 5000 lines, around 1100 renders, 90 animations (120-960 frames). I have become more picky about my work so this is why it takes more time.
Only in January I have made 400+ renders and 22 animations.

I know you're a very hard working dev but pls either don't give any dates or if you are giving any date pls keep delays only to a few weeks.

You said you would release the update in Christmas and now your latest goal is to release on March. That's 3 months delay. You are an experienced dev so I'm sure you can figure out how many time each update will take.

Moving on, could you please list all the songs you deleted from the game?

 

[cjcjcc]

The episodes I was making before doing this full time were simpler.
They only had 2000-2500 lines of code, 250-350 renders and 5-15 animations (30 frames best case).
This episode has more than 5000 lines, around 1100 renders, 90 animations (120-960 frames). I have become more picky about my work so this is why it takes more time.
Only in January I have made 400+ renders and 22 animations.

Great game, thank you.
One suggestion: Don' t waste so much time on animations and increasing the number of it! You can deliver 3 or 4 long and best quality animations just for main girls.
Maybe you can poll it for your patreoners and here to see the result if you want!
(Again this is just my opinion and it's just suggestion you can ignore this post.)

 

[WICKEDp4th]

Great game, thank you.
One suggestion: Don' t waste so much time on animations and increasing the number of it! You can deliver 3 or 4 long and best quality animations just for main girls.
Maybe you can poll it for your patreoners and here to see the result if you want!
(Again this is just my opinion and it's just suggestion you can ignore this post.)

Obviously he wants to make the best possible version his supporters deserve to have. And why shouldn't he?!
The impatience here on F95 is ridiculous. There are so many VN's/Games/etc. you can dive into here on F95, to kill time between update cycles.
You're asking him to take shortcuts just so you can fap more frequently to his Visual Novel...tztz

 

[cjcjcc]

Obviously he wants to make the best possible version his supporters deserve to have. And why shouldn't he?!
The impatience here on F95 is ridiculous. There are so many VN's/Games/etc. you can dive into here on F95, to kill time between update cycles.
You're asking him to take shortcuts just so you can fap more frequently to his Visual Novel...tztz

(This is just my opinion and it's just suggestion you can ignore this post.)

Plus, why are you angry! you can make a poll and see players prefer 3 4 animations with 25 30 seconds instead of 90+ animations with 5 6 seconds.

(Again This is just my opinion and it's just suggestion you can ignore this post.)