VN Ren'Py Not Going Back [Ch.2.2] [Cicada]

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Teagan and Mia are tied for the best booty and girl for me. I am proud to be an assman!
Oh god in that case there's another image I'm really tempted to show right now, but without context it'd be confusing and with context would spoil a part of this scene. But I'm really tempted ...
 
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Hello! Just put a dev log up on itch, cross-posting it over here as usual. Nothing too exciting to say, but an update nonetheless.


It's been a little over a month since my last dev log, so I figured I was about due to give a little update on how development has been going.

I'm currently working on a pretty big scene that will take up quite a large portion of both development time as well as playtime, I'm assuming. There's a lot going on in the scene, and it realistically can be broken down into multiple subsections (different conversations and events). The render times have so far been pretty good for the scene, so I'm hoping that it's not going to take months to work through like some previous big scenes have, but we will see.

I'm still working on a few of the quality of life additions I've mentioned previously, those being the character screens and the scene gallery. I've got both more or less planned out, I just need to make sure it all works in practice, but these should both be implemented for the release of ch3. The character screens should hopefully be able to be accessed from the pause menu, and will update with information in line with decisions you make in the game to better track what you have and haven't done (particularly useful for people who want to do multiple playthroughs). The scene gallery will be accessible from the main menu; the scenes themselves will be locked and hidden (with the exception of showing a title for each scene) until you view the scene within the context of the game, so that there's no risk of the gallery spoiling what happens in the story.

Not really a whole lot else to say at the moment, I'm just steadily working through the visuals for the update. Speaking of, some chapter 3 previews have been attached below.

Thanks!

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Damn

Man, I wanna to say - out of all your talents, the one in butt-rendering has a special place in my heart :p
I never was an assman but I think I became one after playing your game.
That twerk show is still on my mind)))

Also, is it weird that I can recognize now Tegan's booty in a blink of an eye? :love::love::love:
 

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Oh god in that case there's another image I'm really tempted to show right now, but without context it'd be confusing and with context would spoil a part of this scene. But I'm really tempted ...
Hopefully I will get to see the scene it in it's full glory soon. Looking forward to it!
 
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Hello! Just put a dev log up on itch, cross-posting it over here as usual. Nothing too exciting to say, but an update nonetheless.


It's been a little over a month since my last dev log, so I figured I was about due to give a little update on how development has been going.

I'm currently working on a pretty big scene that will take up quite a large portion of both development time as well as playtime, I'm assuming. There's a lot going on in the scene, and it realistically can be broken down into multiple subsections (different conversations and events). The render times have so far been pretty good for the scene, so I'm hoping that it's not going to take months to work through like some previous big scenes have, but we will see.

I'm still working on a few of the quality of life additions I've mentioned previously, those being the character screens and the scene gallery. I've got both more or less planned out, I just need to make sure it all works in practice, but these should both be implemented for the release of ch3. The character screens should hopefully be able to be accessed from the pause menu, and will update with information in line with decisions you make in the game to better track what you have and haven't done (particularly useful for people who want to do multiple playthroughs). The scene gallery will be accessible from the main menu; the scenes themselves will be locked and hidden (with the exception of showing a title for each scene) until you view the scene within the context of the game, so that there's no risk of the gallery spoiling what happens in the story.

Not really a whole lot else to say at the moment, I'm just steadily working through the visuals for the update. Speaking of, some chapter 3 previews have been attached below.

Thanks!

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Great update, man. And outstanding renders indeed :love:

I'm a boob man myself, but can certainly appreciate nice butts, and Teagan does have a very nice one. :p
Man, I wanna to say - out of all your talents, the one in butt-rendering has a special place in my heart :p
I never was an assman but I think I became one after playing your game.
I am also a boob man guys, but, honestly, I started reconsidering my perception of things :LOL:
 

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I am also a boob man guys, but, honestly, I started reconsidering my perception of things :LOL:
Well, I didn't say I am boob man hehe
To be more precise - when it comes to body parts - I would say I like beautiful thighs/legs.

I think the reason is that 2 of my EXs were models, and models usually have long and beautiful legs, so I guess I got used to it and kinda set up my standards accordingly ;) But ass is also very close to legs soooo - it comes in complex I guess :KEK:
 
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cicadaNGB

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Damn

Man, I wanna to say - out of all your talents, the one in butt-rendering has a special place in my heart :p
I never was an assman but I think I became one after playing your game.
That twerk show is still on my mind)))

Also, is it weird that I can recognize now Tegan's booty in a blink of an eye? :love::love::love:
That's good to hear. The twerk contest was one of the things where I was worried that the idea would be better than the actual execution, so it's good to see it was good enough to be memorable
 

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Also, something I neglected to mention in the dev log but I think is relevant is that I'm experimenting a little more with the visual style in ch3, namely it being a little more cinematic. I did this a bit in ch2 but I'm really ramping it up in ch3.

By this I mean more angled shots, experimental framing and general composition to try and make the game feel more visually interesting. This is something I've noticed other games praised for their visuals do; utilize visual techniques that are used in filmmaking. I didn't really do this in ch1 (or 2 that much) partly through inexperience in rendering, partly through not knowing if it was right for the style of game I was making. (I find that some games attempt a very ambitious cinematic visual style without any of the substance to justify it, and the overall affect can feel underwhelming when there's a dissonance between what you see and read). But now I've come to the conclusion that it just makes for a more visually appealing game. For example, the preview renders for ch3 I've shown so far look much more interesting and dynamic than most of ch1, which, looking back, feels quite static. I'm still going keeping to my style for conversations, which is for the most part a camera from the perspective of the MC looking at who's talking, but I'm making a conceited effort to make things feel and look a bit more cinematic.

Don't worry: I'm not going to go back and remake anything in the past. (at least not until the game is complete). My priority is always getting new chapters out. But I just wanted to mention it, also as a gauge on the extent to which people notice this sort of thing.
 

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You already had a good grasp of visual storytelling even if you were inexperienced with it, so the fact that you're still trying to push yourself to find something that fits your vision more is hella impressive to me.

You were already a top 5 dev in my eyes due transparency, passion and talent and you're only going up from there. Looking forward to chapter 3 to see where you're taking things.
 
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I wished one thing that was shown or added for a specific scene was when you choose to hold mia's hand after sex, I wish instead of just a close up of them holding hands, I wished we also got a wide shot, of them holding hands, mia smiling, both of them drifting to sleep, cuddling together, etc. just one thing I feel would complete the scene for me, cause that choice of hold hands, just felt like it needed more and slightly underwhelming imo. Other than that, loving the game, going in Mia wasn't my first choice from the girls in the banner but Mia quickly jumped to the top.

Also will sleeping with the side girls have consequences with main girls, or is it just a bit of fun, with no consequences?
 
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You already had a good grasp of visual storytelling even if you were inexperienced with it, so the fact that you're still trying to push yourself to find something that fits your vision more is hella impressive to me.

You were already a top 5 dev in my eyes due transparency, passion and talent and you're only going up from there. Looking forward to chapter 3 to see where you're taking things.
Thanks so much, that means a lot to hear. Hoping to justify that praise in the future.
 
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I wished one thing that was shown or added for a specific scene was when you choose to hold mia's hand after sex, I wish instead of just a close up of them holding hands, I wished we also got a wide shot, of them holding hands, mia smiling, both of them drifting to sleep, cuddling together, etc. just one thing I feel would complete the scene for me, cause that choice of hold hands, just felt like it needed more and slightly underwhelming imo. Other than that, loving the game, going in Mia wasn't my first choice from the girls in the banner but Mia quickly jumped to the top.

Also will sleeping with the side girls have consequences with main girls, or is it just a bit of fun, with no consequences?
Yeah, that's a fair point to make on that scene. There is actually a reason for not doing a wider shot - to get the posing right, their arms are actually clipping through the quilt, so a wider shot would've ruined the magic with how the scene was set up, because it was impossible to get the right angles while also have the quilt dform over each character. So I kinda had to settle for what I could get.

And then to answer your question: there will be consequences for being with side girls. I've described it this way before, but the only real difference between side and main girls are that main girls have endings (and slightly more intrinsic stories - although their are some side girls who, depending on your choices, will be more prominent in the game than main girls). But yeah, any relationship you choose to have with main or side girls will be relevant in some way, it just depends on which girls and who knows about it. Some will be less impactful, though, for sure; not all will have massive consequences.

Oh, and thanks for playing, glad you enjoyed it. It's always interesting to see which characters are at the top of people's estimations. I think Mia definitely has an advantage at the moment at least because she gets a lot of the early screen time and I'd like to think she's a pretty likeable character, so I feel like a lot of people would probably have her near the top, at least with what's available so far through the first two chapters.
 
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And then to answer your question: there will be consequences for being with side girls. I've described it this way before, but the only real difference between side and main girls are that main girls have endings (and slightly more intrinsic stories - although their are some side girls who, depending on your choices, will be more prominent in the game than main girls). But yeah, any relationship you choose to have with main or side girls will be relevant in some way, it just depends on which girls and who knows about it. Some will be less impactful, though, for sure; not all will have massive consequences.
This game is really looking like it might be in my top 5 or 10 after more updates from this statement alone. So many games Side girls act like it's no big deal and never brought up if you cheat on them with a side girl lol. Tho I still keep my solo paths completely faithful on a off chance I come a across a game like this where it does matter if you sleep with side girls lol.

Oh, and thanks for playing, glad you enjoyed it. It's always interesting to see which characters are at the top of people's estimations.
For me it's rough this order
  1. Mia
  2. Imogen
  3. Rainn
  4. Ava
  5. Tegan
  6. Bonnie ( Hope I got the right Twin)
  7. Rachael
The Rest I can't recall how I liked or disliked them need to replay the game.
 
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This game is really looking like it might be in my top 5 or 10 after more updates from this statement alone. So many games Side girls act like it's no big deal and never brought up if you cheat on them with a side girl lol. Tho I still keep my solo paths completely faithful on a off chance I come a across a game like this where it does matter if you sleep with side girls lol.
Yeah that was something I noticed in a lot of games. I get why it's sometimes not mentioned, because it can increase the amount of variables and variations of scenes you'd need to make to account for whether or not the player has been with whichever characters, but sometimes it gets to a point where your suspension of disbelief is challenged. Like, it can make it hard to believe the characters are real people because they're either oblivious to what's going on or it's like they don't exist outside of the parameters of the MC (like they wouldn't talk to each other about those sorts of things).

So for the most part in this game every encounter, both with main and side girls, will impact other characters in some way, because you can reasonably assume people will talk about it. But there will be levels to this, too. For example, if you've had sex with say Tegan or Mia, at least most girls in their sorority will probably know pretty quickly, and that's going to have an impact on their opinion of you etc. because they all live together, they're all friends. But, say, if you have sex with Lauren, some girls won't even find out because it's more of a throwaway thing, some won't really care for similar reasons if they do find out (because it was a pledge task and they get how those things go), but others might think a bit differently about it.

Ultimately what I'm trying to say is you're probably going to need to consider your actions quite carefully in some instances, because I am designing the game in a way that those major decisions do matter. And it won't always be negative, necessarily, either.
 

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Yeah that was something I noticed in a lot of games. I get why it's sometimes not mentioned, because it can increase the amount of variables and variations of scenes you'd need to make to account for whether or not the player has been with whichever characters, but sometimes it gets to a point where your suspension of disbelief is challenged. Like, it can make it hard to believe the characters are real people because they're either oblivious to what's going on or it's like they don't exist outside of the parameters of the MC (like they wouldn't talk to each other about those sorts of things).

So for the most part in this game every encounter, both with main and side girls, will impact other characters in some way, because you can reasonably assume people will talk about it. But there will be levels to this, too. For example, if you've had sex with say Tegan or Mia, at least most girls in their sorority will probably know pretty quickly, and that's going to have an impact on their opinion of you etc. because they all live together, they're all friends. But, say, if you have sex with Lauren, some girls won't even find out because it's more of a throwaway thing, some won't really care for similar reasons if they do find out (because it was a pledge task and they get how those things go), but others might think a bit differently about it.

Ultimately what I'm trying to say is you're probably going to need to consider your actions quite carefully in some instances, because I am designing the game in a way that those major decisions do matter. And it won't always be negative, necessarily, either.
That all sounds awesome and just one of the reasons your game is in my very favorites and made the list in my signature.

In terms of girls, I don't have a clear favorite yet.

For LI's Bonnie, Tegan, Mia, Ava, Bobbie & Alice are all amazing and any of them could take my #1 spot and I'm doing solo monogamous paths for all of them. The only 2 I don't have at their level are Imogen & Ellie.

On side girls I love Rachael (she'd probably be #1 if she was an Li), Rainn intrigues me and I really like her so far. Also Jess, Mariah, Melody and Molly have stood out for me.
 

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Yeah that was something I noticed in a lot of games. I get why it's sometimes not mentioned, because it can increase the amount of variables and variations of scenes you'd need to make to account for whether or not the player has been with whichever characters, but sometimes it gets to a point where your suspension of disbelief is challenged. Like, it can make it hard to believe the characters are real people because they're either oblivious to what's going on or it's like they don't exist outside of the parameters of the MC (like they wouldn't talk to each other about those sorts of things).

So for the most part in this game every encounter, both with main and side girls, will impact other characters in some way, because you can reasonably assume people will talk about it. But there will be levels to this, too. For example, if you've had sex with say Tegan or Mia, at least most girls in their sorority will probably know pretty quickly, and that's going to have an impact on their opinion of you etc. because they all live together, they're all friends. But, say, if you have sex with Lauren, some girls won't even find out because it's more of a throwaway thing, some won't really care for similar reasons if they do find out (because it was a pledge task and they get how those things go), but others might think a bit differently about it.

Ultimately what I'm trying to say is you're probably going to need to consider your actions quite carefully in some instances, because I am designing the game in a way that those major decisions do matter. And it won't always be negative, necessarily, either.
damn that sounds awesome and honestly while I really only do monogamous saves for the most part unless im playing a harem. I do make the manwhore save for games that will have consequences from what your wrote sounds like it might be worth having more than 1 manwhore save to see all the outcomes and consequences in the future.

Gonna have to make a spreadsheet for this game to keep track of what choices I think are important for what save haha
 

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lol that review that got rid of a star cause of Mia's trauma for not wanting to suck dick made me kind of laugh. But it also kind of makes me real curious what kind of trauma Mia has gone through and will be revealed. As if I recall she actually seems mostly normal without issues until that lewd scene. So it does make you wonder what kind of trauma she has gone through to be normal expect for a BJ as far as I know. I don't really think it's anything dark like SA or worst. I think it has to do with being labeled a slut. As from what I recall other were saying how she is a slut but from what I saw she is far from that.

So my guess is her trauma with giving the MC a BJ probably something like she got caught giving a BJ to a boyfriend or another guy in high school or something. Then rumors or a video spread and labeled her as a slut. So I think the trauma has more to do with a bad memory of her past and not really anything bad in it's self.

I'm probably really far off from the truth but that review got me thinking so I thought I'd share my thoughts and guess around that subject for the hell of it.
 
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How long is one playthrough of the game at the moment?
I can only guess since it's been awhile. But also heavy depends on your playstyle, and how often you may take a break etc. The way I play the game I want to say it took me closer to 2 days maybe 3 at the most to check everything out. How many hours that was couldn't tell you especially cause I play on the slower end of things and take my time and do take breaks after playing a section of the game. I rarely play a AVN in 1 sitting without taking mini breaks to look at the internet / play another game for a bit etc etc.
 
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How long is one playthrough of the game at the moment?
It's always a little hard to say at an estimate because obviously people play and read games at different speeds. But I'd say it's a broad 'couple of hours'. If you're one for attentively reading everything, I'd be surprised if you got through it much under 3 hours, but if you're more of a skim-reader until a scene properly hooks you in then you could probably get through it quicker.
Ultimately I could see one run-through taking anywhere from 2-6 hours as an exceptionally broad guess at the average time (also depending on what choice-based scenes you see). Hope that helps, sorry I can't be more specific really.
 
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