MrSilverLust

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I believe the developer mentioned Bri will get a bigger presence in chapter 6. Which I really hope turns out to be true!
That's true. She'll have a bigger role in the plot and in the lewd department. But "bigger" doesn't mean she'll be the focus. Just more (which isn't hard, given she has got very little screen time).

it's interesting how Kim has slowly climbed up the ladder of favorite characters.
Some people wanted her burned to the ground after the 3th chapter. But now, even the manly path has its fans. People kinda like a ruthless bitch...

Except Kim. Fuck Kim.
... not all people though :p

I found myself debating whether or not to replay the entire damn thing, and put myself through being a sub (ew) for her, just so I could be there for her.
Funnily enough, that's exactly the situation Carl found himself in. He went through with it and we all know how that ended up.

Without spoiling me too much..is there some sort of femdom content with her? (or a similar branch)
Yep, in chapter 5. And a much smaller teasing scene in chapter 4.
 

Mwanted

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Thanks guys, and kudos to the developer for how he planned the (really good) variety of content of this game.
 
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schinoize

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Some people wanted her burned to the ground after the 3th chapter. But now, even the manly path has its fans. People kinda like a ruthless bitch...
That for sure. Though I must say, at least for me personally it always takes a while to "warm up" to them. I'm usually loyal to "my" friends, especially good guys like Pete, in the early playthroughs of AVNs and it's not until later that I tend to be more open and willing to experiment.
 
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desmosome

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This game is extremely unique in that it has a lot of non-vanilla kinks, but they are explored in an entirely grounded manner while still delivering what people are looking for in those tags to a reasonable degree.

Most games that explore kinks either go with one extreme or the other. The more common is the all out depravity where the characters don't act reasonably in real world terms and take actions just to satisfy the game tags. Rape, blackmail, male dom, corruption, ntr/cuckoldry/netori, etc etc. The porny implementation of these tags are hot, but we've seen it plenty of times.

The other extreme is when they put too much emphasis on making sure everything comes across as entirely safe (physically and psychologically) and consensual. It's cheating but not really because no one, including the MC, has a thought about what he is doing. It's BDSM, but let's make sure everyone is extremely on board with the role play and well adjusted for it. It's incest, but incest is totally wincest and everyone is happy, right? Basically, they are entirely vanilla stories that just splashes minor scenes for the sake of adding tags.

This game, on the other hand, takes care to make sure there isn't any non-consensual or overly tropey stuff, but it still enables players going for the more fucked up routes to get the payoff. All the while keeping things grounded in reality. Plus, stuff like misogyny kink is something that has never actually been explored in explicit terms as a fetish, as far as I know.

MC is the least grounded out of the cast, but that's to be expected in a game like this with so many routes and possibilities in his character. The subconscious personas do a fine job of framing his actions to fit in with what the players are likely head canoning for their MC in the first place.
 
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Mwanted

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Some people wanted her burned to the ground after the 3th chapter. But now, even the manly path has its fans. People kinda like a ruthless bitch...
Yeah you must resist that push: more variety = more quality, and having the possibility to explore some darker side of the game is absolutely fun\interesting\hot (as it is playing the classic MC path) :)
 

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I'm sure she just acts evil because something bad happened to her.
But pretending to be evil like her to manipulate her into becoming a good person again will definitely work.
She already was very nice and helpful this update.
I don't know man. Bad things happen to people every day. They don't all act like that. Perhaps she's not pure evil and can be "fixed" but personally I'm not interested in doing that at all. She is dismissive at every turn if you rebuke her advances. And as for being nice and helpful this update, she doesn't get a pass for doing the bare minimum.

She'll get no reprieve from me. I told Pete the first chance I got.

Idk perhaps I'm taking this too seriously? I understand this is a porn game but the characters are believable enough that I can't treat them as "haha porn". At least not entirely.
Yeah you must resist that push: more variety = more quality, and having the possibility to explore some darker side of the game is absolutely fun\interesting\hot (as it is playing the classic MC path) :)
Yeah I will certainly agree on that. Despite disliking her personally she's valuable as a character in the story. The conflict her character provides makes the entire thing feel more alive even if you're not into it.

On an entirely different subject, I understand that the focus of the game are the girls ofc but can we possibly have some bro moments with Carl? He seems like a cool dude but throughout the entire game so far he has seemed very "detached" from his relationship issues, at least to me. Even in ch5, all he says is "yaeh it's bad, take care of her guys". Doesn't he need some kind of taking care of? And I don't mean that sexually. I just think it'd be interesting to get more of his perspective on this.
 
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I understand this is a porn game but the characters are believable enough that I can't treat them as "haha porn". At least not entirely.
True! Feel exactly the same! When the story is so well written, the characters so deep backrounded and the choices/paths so many and different to choose, then that happens. You getting psychologically seriously involved and affected.
 

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On an entirely different subject, I understand that the focus of the game are the girls ofc but can we possibly have some bro moments with Carl? He seems like a cool dude but throughout the entire game so far he has seemed very "detached" from his relationship issues, at least to me. Even in ch5, all he says is "yaeh it's bad, take care of her guys". Doesn't he need some kind of taking care of? And I don't mean that sexually. I just think it'd be interesting to get more of his perspective on this.
+1 (y)
 

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MrSilverLust I am not surprised. Chapter 5 is awesome like other chapters :). Jen's scene in dominant path was interesting. It's going in a pretty interesting way.
For the sub path, I am very curious about the mistress :p.

Kim is ruthless....and I love it. Making mc lick her shoes while calling Pete that was hot Camera angles were perfect for that scene. Where do you come up with these hot ideas....what makes the scene more good is your dialogues. They are the best.
Waiting for more awesome scenes with her.

Debbie scene was hot. More teasing is good, but I hope there will be a option for our reward. And she is not wearing nail
polish anymore. I am happy :LOL:

M. I like how Emma is getting into her dominant with mc. That will be interesting.
Thanks for the awesome chapter :).
 

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Really unique game, loving it so far. For the moment I'm having two paths I'm playing, the fuck everyone you can, because more content that way and some of the kinks and scenes are super well done. On the other hand I like Lea a lot, so as of this update I started a solo/loyal path with her (though Emma and Jen are great also, may check their solo content out later)
 

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I really liked the game. It resembles an immersive simulator with a huge range of features, and the perk system directly refers to role-playing games. The characters are incredibly developed, you understand that each of them is a person with his own kinks and desires. Episodes are big, full of content and you can be sure that the developer is not a milker. It's a pity that Mr.SilverLust refused to fully animated scenes as it was at the beginning of the game, but I think he did not want to delay development too much (animations take a long time to render) and the story and characters are at the head of this game.

As a result of Episode 5, I decided on the girls that I like and made a list of preferences.

7. Kim. There are "bad girls" when guys like them, but Kim is not one of them. A manipulative woman, for whom the main thing is power and influence, and people are simply nothing to her. Extremely toxic person. She prefers conspiracies against friends behind their backs, to break human destinies. Blackmailer. I don't blame her kink of cheating, I'm not sinless in the game, and the dev himself hints to us that there is nothing wrong with sexual fetishes. But it's better to stay away from Kim. Plus her hairy pussy just makes me sick.
6. Bri. Just a hot girl next door I would like to have some fun with. I can’t say anything bad about her, in general a pleasant girl, although she is loaded with her own problems. But not of great interest, besides, I'm not a fan of milfy body type with giant boobs.
5. Debra. A very controversial woman. If I understand correctly, her kink is to dominate her man. Although not necessarily with her own, it is important for her to dominate someone. To such an extent that it turned into a desire to cuck a man in front of his eyes. I helped her by going through the “manly” option, but it looks like it only creates new problems in her relationship with boyfriend and left Debra feeling confused. I think she needs to sort herself out.
4. Olivia. Hell, she's cool and she even has a dramatic storyline involving her not wanting a permanent relationship, but MrSilverLust please tell, are you planning Olivia line at all? So far, there is a little content with her. We can choose her in 0.4 ending, so I hope so. By the way, in the only scene with Olivia, one item is unavailable to me, which says "You need to have crush on Olivia". What did I miss and how can I get it?
3. Emma.
This tumultuous chemistry between Emma and MC is done incredibly well. From "I hate you" and "You're such an asshole, but I like you." A feminist who wants to be roughly fucked like a doll and used as a sex toy? Yes, I went through the manly option. What could be more ironic? Emma - definitely yes. But you need to be prepared that nothing vanilla will turn out with Emma - either you dominate her, or she dominates you. It's similar to Debra's way, but I find Emma more interesting.
2. Jen. Still waters run deep - about such girls. Good girl, redhead, nerd type but with a lot of sexy kinks, especially likes to be dominated, with a possible transformation into BDSM. Hell yes!
1. Lea. By far the best waifu in the game for me. It is very pleasant and easy to work with her, she has the cutest smile in the game, a girl who wants to gain confidence in herself, become more open and get out of the shell. Her penchant for exhibitionism is quite interesting and I'm curious what it will result in in the future. And I understand that Leah will satisfy both camps of players: those who prefer to play "THAT'S MY GIRL!" style, and the NTR-brigade also. It's amazing how a developer manages to satisfy everyone. Praising Lea moment: lea.JPG

This is how the waifu list turned out. At the end, I will say that the game deserves much more attention.
 

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H-scenes doesn't seem to be animated any more AND it seems like there's an introduction to sandbox elements (going around the apartment to pick things up). is this a new direction this VN is headed?
 
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Elduriel

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I really liked the game. It resembles an immersive simulator with a huge range of features, and the perk system directly refers to role-playing games. The characters are incredibly developed, you understand that each of them is a person with his own kinks and desires. Episodes are big, full of content and you can be sure that the developer is not a milker. It's a pity that Mr.SilverLust refused to fully animated scenes as it was at the beginning of the game, but I think he did not want to delay development too much (animations take a long time to render) and the story and characters are at the head of this game.

As a result of Episode 5, I decided on the girls that I like and made a list of preferences.

7. Kim. There are "bad girls" when guys like them, but Kim is not one of them. A manipulative woman, for whom the main thing is power and influence, and people are simply nothing to her. Extremely toxic person. She prefers conspiracies against friends behind their backs, to break human destinies. Blackmailer. I don't blame her kink of cheating, I'm not sinless in the game, and the dev himself hints to us that there is nothing wrong with sexual fetishes. But it's better to stay away from Kim. Plus her hairy pussy just makes me sick.
6. Bri. Just a hot girl next door I would like to have some fun with. I can’t say anything bad about her, in general a pleasant girl, although she is loaded with her own problems. But not of great interest, besides, I'm not a fan of milfy body type with giant boobs.
5. Debra. A very controversial woman. If I understand correctly, her kink is to dominate her man. Although not necessarily with her own, it is important for her to dominate someone. To such an extent that it turned into a desire to cuck a man in front of his eyes. I helped her by going through the “manly” option, but it looks like it only creates new problems in her relationship with boyfriend and left Debra feeling confused. I think she needs to sort herself out.
4. Olivia. Hell, she's cool and she even has a dramatic storyline involving her not wanting a permanent relationship, but MrSilverLust please tell, are you planning Olivia line at all? So far, there is a little content with her. We can choose her in 0.4 ending, so I hope so. By the way, in the only scene with Olivia, one item is unavailable to me, which says "You need to have crush on Olivia". What did I miss and how can I get it?
3. Emma.
This tumultuous chemistry between Emma and MC is done incredibly well. From "I hate you" and "You're such an asshole, but I like you." A feminist who wants to be roughly fucked like a doll and used as a sex toy? Yes, I went through the manly option. What could be more ironic? Emma - definitely yes. But you need to be prepared that nothing vanilla will turn out with Emma - either you dominate her, or she dominates you. It's similar to Debra's way, but I find Emma more interesting.
2. Jen. Still waters run deep - about such girls. Good girl, redhead, nerd type but with a lot of sexy kinks, especially likes to be dominated, with a possible transformation into BDSM. Hell yes!
1. Lea. By far the best waifu in the game for me. It is very pleasant and easy to work with her, she has the cutest smile in the game, a girl who wants to gain confidence in herself, become more open and get out of the shell. Her penchant for exhibitionism is quite interesting and I'm curious what it will result in in the future. And I understand that Leah will satisfy both camps of players: those who prefer to play "THAT'S MY GIRL!" style, and the NTR-brigade also. It's amazing how a developer manages to satisfy everyone. Praising Lea moment: View attachment 2160353

This is how the waifu list turned out. At the end, I will say that the game deserves much more attention.
couldn't agree more with your list to be honest
 

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If ever you asked yourselves why MC never made anything outta himself,
getting scraps from the woman chaser or the idiot friend,
while the lot of his colegues come together to mock him,
now you know why: your own devotion to the antagonists of the story.
That's true. She'll have a bigger role in the plot and in the lewd department. But "bigger" doesn't mean she'll be the focus. Just more (which isn't hard, given she has got very little screen time).



Some people wanted her burned to the ground after the 3th chapter. But now, even the manly path has its fans. People kinda like a ruthless bitch...



... not all people though :p



Funnily enough, that's exactly the situation Carl found himself in. He went through with it and we all know how that ended up.



Yep, in chapter 5. And a much smaller teasing scene in chapter 4.
That for sure. Though I must say, at least for me personally it always takes a while to "warm up" to them. I'm usually loyal to "my" friends, especially good guys like Pete, in the early playthroughs of AVNs and it's not until later that I tend to be more open and willing to experiment.
She might not be that pretty but Kim is such a dick I quite like her.
Yeah you must resist that push: more variety = more quality, and having the possibility to explore some darker side of the game is absolutely fun\interesting\hot (as it is playing the classic MC path) :)
I don't know man. Bad things happen to people every day. They don't all act like that. Perhaps she's not pure evil and can be "fixed" but personally I'm not interested in doing that at all. She is dismissive at every turn if you rebuke her advances. And as for being nice and helpful this update, she doesn't get a pass for doing the bare minimum.

She'll get no reprieve from me. I told Pete the first chance I got.

Idk perhaps I'm taking this too seriously? I understand this is a porn game but the characters are believable enough that I can't treat them as "haha porn". At least not entirely.


Yeah I will certainly agree on that. Despite disliking her personally she's valuable as a character in the story. The conflict her character provides makes the entire thing feel more alive even if you're not into it.

On an entirely different subject, I understand that the focus of the game are the girls ofc but can we possibly have some bro moments with Carl? He seems like a cool dude but throughout the entire game so far he has seemed very "detached" from his relationship issues, at least to me. Even in ch5, all he says is "yaeh it's bad, take care of her guys". Doesn't he need some kind of taking care of? And I don't mean that sexually. I just think it'd be interesting to get more of his perspective on this.
True! Feel exactly the same! When the story is so well written, the characters so deep backrounded and the choices/paths so many and different to choose, then that happens. You getting psychologically seriously involved and affected.
I try to explore as much of the content as I can or think I'd like to see, so I do have a Deb save, but in general that's a bigger reason I tend to ignore Deb. I do like Carl and my MC usually roots for them to work it out. Even after their breakup, I know it's a few weeks of giving Deb space and all, but I'm still rooting for Carl.

I think I care less than others though, like I said I try to explore all the content. I don't get as invested as others with just having one playthrough or identifying as the MC especially on different ones. I'll do one that's maybe more roleplayed like that, but when it's done I just move along and then change to different MC mindsets. I think in my mind the Deb MC playthrough is someone that doesn't care about Carl. In my others they do.
Yep, ruthless Kim is hot :love:
Girls are the spotlight because MC is versed in their troubles and can stand letting them rant about them for hours ... which is precisely what a therapy major would do,
when his ”friends” are 80% females that mock him and the rest are womanizer friend no.1
and pussy whipped friend no. 2.
 
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MrSilverLust

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One of the most promising game in f95 ever.
We definitely need Kim's signature btw, the devil deserved it.
I've tried a new style for signatures because I think the old one might be too colorful and it doesn't look so good next to other signatures.

What do you guys think?





It's still quite simple because I don't know how to do much better. Maybe I'll still try something more elaborate later. But, for now, I made one for each LI and added them to the same post with all signatures I've made.

Anyone feel free to use any of them if you like.
 
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