BlasKyau

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Jun 26, 2018
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Well, I know the game isn't a harem, so the chances of me becoming interested are pretty low. In any case, could all maledom, femdom, netorare, swinging, BDSM, cheating, humiliation, spanking, group sex and multiple penetration be avoided?
 

K115

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Jun 3, 2018
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Well, I know the game isn't a harem, so the chances of me becoming interested are pretty low. In any case, could all maledom, femdom, netorare, swinging, BDSM, cheating, humiliation, spanking, group sex and multiple penetration be avoided?
Everything is avoidable
 
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Lord_Momentum

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Sep 16, 2018
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A bit of a downer that olivia ends her relationship with her bf. I really wanted to cuck that dude.

Now the game has a much less conflict between the mc and his friend.

I hope that we get to cuck him with his new GF instead. That would be much appreciated, because it could lead to a rivalry between her and olivia.

Please mr silverlust, make it happen.
 

Malekai

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Jan 28, 2018
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Great story. The part where the grandpa came by and supported his little girl for the chess tournament made me tear up. Not even sure why. Guess it's just proof the story is written really well?
 
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K115

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Aight Imma butt in because people bitching about updates of VN games with multiple LIs really ticked me off. A VN with multiple love interests and reactive dialogue that takes all relationships into account with also 2 different paths on each LI is a gigantic task, Idek how folks got the idea that every update would be as quick as the earlier updates or that they would be bountiful in content for every girl every update. Every update the dialogue and relationship flags get more convoluted because more and more events happen. As more events happen, more flags should be created and checked for dialogue consistency. As time goes on it is to be expected for updates to reaaaally slow down. It will get to the point where some LIs will end up sidelined every update or so in favor of other plot relevant or more popular girls. It doesn't mean the route will be completely abandoned, it only means that you just have to wait longer.
To Patrons, it sucks if you subscribed out of your major interest on a unpopular LI (like, let's say Kim or Deb), but it's also not something unexpected. I'm not saying you should shill regardless if you get progress on your niche, actually, it'd make more sense to unsubscribe if you feel like you're not going to get what you want and just wait until progress has been made on your preferred girl to support again, or until the VN gets finished. No reason to be a jerk to the creator for writing the story as he sees fit.

Personally, I love NiF, it's fun to read. I can vouch for the maledom, cuckolding, sharing and some vanilla scenes that the scenewriting is hot. The characters are pretty amazing and one of them even feels novel in the Visual Novel experience. The wait right now is grueling, and painfully long which in turn makes what content we get seem like so little compared to the wait (imo probably a sign it should wrap up soon before it gets worse). But it is still a good and engaging story that is worth the wait for how well it's done. MrSilverLust if you're reading this, I wish you luck to finalize the story in a satisfying manner for both your readers/subscribers and to you. So far, it's been a fun ride. Keep up doing good work :)
 

K115

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Jun 3, 2018
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THERE IS NO netorare, its false advertising... yet to see any so called netorare content in this game what so ever....
This site has a tag problem that was gonna supposedly be solved as we were supposed to get new tags that would help further differentiate games with more tags we lack but clearly need. Such as the Netorase tag that this game falls into. Netorase is all with consent from all parties involved which is untrue for Netorare so while you would be justified in feeling this way, there's nothing the dev can do about it since f95 still has many netorare variants fall under the same giant umbrella of the Netorare tag. Although I would argue there is netorare happening at one point in the game, it just doesn't happen to you specifically, and it's also not up in your face about it, I still wouldn't tag this VN with Netorare, but a character is indeed being cheated on without their consent or knowing.
 

MrSilverLust

MSL Games
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May 22, 2021
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THERE IS NO netorare, its false advertising... yet to see any so called netorare content in this game what so ever....
I didn't tag it with NTR myself, some mod added it, presumably due to some reporting. Personally, I wouldn't add it, but I've also just ignore it. The community should decide how to tag the games, not me.

Netorase is all with consent from all parties involved which is untrue for Netorare so while you would be justified in feeling this way, there's nothing the dev can do about it since f95 still has many netorare variants fall under the same giant umbrella of the Netorare tag.
There is cuckolding. And NTR is the closest tag that comes to cuckolding.
I, personally, disagree with this. Looking at the tags, netorase/cuckolding scenes in the game perfectly falls under the swinging tag, not the netorare one.

  • Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
  • Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]
So, there is a tag on F95 right for that content.

Although I would argue there is netorare happening at one point in the game, it just doesn't happen to you specifically, and it's also not up in your face about it, I still wouldn't tag this VN with Netorare, but a character is indeed being cheated on without their consent or knowing.
This further muddies the waters because what people call netorare and swinging in general, doesn't perfectly align with what the definitions are in F95. Here, the tag is just about an LI being with someone else than the MC, which excludes that situation.

For that case, I added the cheating tag, that perfectly fits the bill.

  • Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]

If I presented you these three tags:
  • A [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
  • B [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]
  • C [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]
It'd be a stretch to say any of the scenes with Lea, Kim, Deb, or Jen fall in the tag A.

And, funnily enough, it'd also be impossible to distinguish between B and C, unless you assume the C is behind the partner back, aka cheating. That's not in the definition, though. But it's the name of the tag, so let's assume so.

In that case, the scenes in the game would either be tag B, when the sharing is consensual;
or C, when it's not, but it's the MC cheating on the girl/ fucking a girl in a relationship with other guy (and not the MC being cheated on/being jealous - in that case it'd be, rightfully, tag A).

Perhaps you could make an argument that Deb, Kim and Olivia starting the game with a boyfriend other than the MC could fit in the tag A description. But that would be conceding that, any game that at some point has a girl in a relationship with someone other than the MC should be tagged with NTR. I've seen that argument being made, but I find it unreasonable.


Anyway, it's just a quirk of this particular tagging. And, to be fair, it's not an easy problem to fix, given how much people can get passionate about this topic. It should get better with the new system, though.

That being said, for all the discussions that this site has about NTR, I saw zero diference between having the tag or not, so, who cares? I'll certainly not start a fight about this. Sorry for those that came here and where misled by the tag... something tells me this wasn't the first time it happened.
 

Skep-tiker

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Oct 11, 2023
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I respectfully disagree... Emma is the perfect sub. She outwardly manifests an entirely different narrative but finally does everything you wish for. But once again, each to their own ;)
Nah, Emma is a brat, a submissive subgenre (no pun intended) where the brat constantly tries to provoke the dom in order to be punished afterwards. I was into this when I was younger, but since I'm a parent, this is daily struggle. I find Emma exhausting....
 

Blizzard99

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Feb 11, 2021
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Love the game, dev! My favorite update this week.

Olivia's content was quite cute. Can't help but root for her and the MC.

Emma's my favorite girl and I'm glad that the MC finally had a chance to declare his feelings for her, even if it made us lose a lewd scene. Hope for some content with her in the next update and the relationship path with her opens soon.
 

Jack Townsend

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Sep 4, 2020
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I wish I could take both the Sensitive and Neutral scenes with Bri in the shower and fuse them together into one scene. It would start Sensitive and finish Neutral.
 

honeryx

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Jun 16, 2019
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Manly and sensitive scenes are easy to intuit, but how do the neutral scenes work? I know Jen has a neutral path but I'm not quite sure on the others. I think I'm on Leah's neutral path, I wound up missing a sub scene or two with her in the recent chapter.

One of these days the game really deserves a wikia, it is probably complex enough for something like that.
 

MagicMan753

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Nov 19, 2021
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Aight Imma butt in because people bitching about updates of VN games with multiple LIs really ticked me off. A VN with multiple love interests and reactive dialogue that takes all relationships into account with also 2 different paths on each LI is a gigantic task, Idek how folks got the idea that every update would be as quick as the earlier updates or that they would be bountiful in content for every girl every update. Every update the dialogue and relationship flags get more convoluted because more and more events happen. As more events happen, more flags should be created and checked for dialogue consistency. As time goes on it is to be expected for updates to reaaaally slow down. It will get to the point where some LIs will end up sidelined every update or so in favor of other plot relevant or more popular girls. It doesn't mean the route will be completely abandoned, it only means that you just have to wait longer.
I agree for the most part, I am fine with waiting for longer updates or updates that focus on particular girls, but what I am not fine with is unequal treatment of the routes. Emma is my favorite girl, I perfer the sensitive route, in this update it is just sex. On the manly side you get some dialouge before and after building the relationship, on the love route, no scene, but progression in the relationship. In the sensitive side, it is just sex, then next scene, I wnat some relationship talk too even if I am subbing to Emma. If I want just sex, I'll go watch porn, but I play vn's for the relationships and stories, and the dev clearly doesn't care about the sub side of Emma. So much so that this game went from top 5 to can't even crack top 20 anymore, and I am considering if I even want to play it anymore. I am fine with updates focusing on just a couple girls, but if you focus on a girl with multiple paths, GIVE ALL THE PATHS EQUAL TREATMENT!!!
 

Estius

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GIVE ALL THE PATHS EQUAL TREATMENT!!!
Sure, it would be nice, but we're talking 7 women with multiple paths. The time between updates would be ridiculously long.

7 women was probably overkill for this type of game. 4-5 probably would have been ideal, but hindsight and all that, still a pretty amazing game.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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Manly and sensitive scenes are easy to intuit, but how do the neutral scenes work? I know Jen has a neutral path but I'm not quite sure on the others. I think I'm on Leah's neutral path, I wound up missing a sub scene or two with her in the recent chapter.

One of these days the game really deserves a wikia, it is probably complex enough for something like that.
I can't speak for all of them, but Jen's 'vanilla' path is a combination of scenes though mostly from the 'dom' path. Lea's pure gf path without exhibitionism or voyeurism is kinda boring, though it includes some of the same sex scenes.

I could be wrong but off the top of my head I don't think any of the 'neutral' or 'vanilla' paths have explicitly unique scenes found nowhere else; they're all borrowed from one of the existing fetish paths.



I'd voiced this before - I wish he'd offer a conditions switch on the Jen neutral path to still have access to either dom or group stuff with her - these fetishes could simply remain as bedroom play (ya know, like how they usually are in the real world instead of making it your entire world)..
 
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