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SEEMS THT ACTRIVATE THE HAREM PATRH IS A HELL OF A THING TO ACHIEVE..AT LEAST WITH THE wt IN FIRST OP PAGE...AND I THINK U CAN'T GET ALL THE GIRLS IN THE HAREM, RIGHT? there is a way zoey mod works at least till near the end? with this point system is really hard to know what to choose and with wich girls...any help? at least have alice-carol-naomy,sidney ..pls
I doubt it's tough. I played old version and all girls were with me. Without any walktrough. You just should be not an ass to them. I missed few endings, but it wasn't my mistake, game had few bugs.
 

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Playing Now & Then and being upset that Jack Brooks isn't a Edgelord Doomsday Prepper is like watching Die Hard and being upset that John McLane isn't the Terminator...
I think you didn't understand. I speak Naomi's dad. I didn't say anything about MC. He doesn't behave any different then he should behave.
But I like movies you listed. ;)
 

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I doubt it's tough. I played old version and all girls were with me. Without any walktrough. You just should be not an ass to them. I missed few endings, but it wasn't my mistake, game had few bugs.
i don't know..i'm only at chap 7 i guess..(just rescued naomi) and i've take a look at the wt and seems there are so many vsariables that can make u loose points and possibilities..that get me thinking..shouldn't zoey's mod works at least until near the end of the game, so i can use it till near the end and be ok with harem route..and maybe have very little to try and retry to get Harem done at the end???
 

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i don't know..i'm only at chap 7 i guess..(just rescued naomi) and i've take a look at the wt and seems there are so many vsariables that can make u loose points and possibilities..that get me thinking..shouldn't zoey's mod works at least until near the end of the game, so i can use it till near the end and be ok with harem route..and maybe have very little to try and retry to get Harem done at the end???
I can understand your dilemma, but I'm not too sure you should try to play with the old mode, many things are different. Not only render wise, Code was changed too, Kinderfeld said it himself. When saves don't work from old version, logic is changed too. I tried only logic answers. I wish I could better help you. And now it's probably 3 years when I was on chapter 7. I can't remember, sorry. I was thinking the same like you think now. What if I choose wrong?
v0.99 I didn't start to play, There are few games I have to finish first. (Single again and Summer's gone) When I wait more then 3 months, I always start it from beginning. ;)
When I finish those two, I will start with N&T. I liked the game, I don't want to think about anything else when I start it. And slow, chapter per day, not more. :LOL:
 
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i don't know..i'm only at chap 7 i guess..(just rescued naomi) and i've take a look at the wt and seems there are so many vsariables that can make u loose points and possibilities..that get me thinking..shouldn't zoey's mod works at least until near the end of the game, so i can use it till near the end and be ok with harem route..and maybe have very little to try and retry to get Harem done at the end???
I don't think the mod for the previous release works for this Director's Cut edition because there are many changes to earlier chapters as well, so the code had changed in an incompatible way, neither saves nor mod works. At least, that is my understanding.

If and only if, the changes only affect contents towards the end, then for sure the mod can still work up to certain point, but IMO not good since you cannot continue past that point, until the mod is updated, which is never :unsure:.
 
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I like your game, that said, you should know conservative doesn't mean stupid, they would miss less even in an emotional situation, less indecisive. The inner voice might as well be whispering in his left ear. If dystopian society is the thing, there would be no hesitation under the story to breed with the fertile girls, you are just voicing your own limitations. Finally (so far in story) a conservative would have come up with ranged, and melee weapons with silencers or crossbows. Personally I might use coated weapons to render the opposition harmless and deal with them as needed. No need to wipe out the bandits, a communication of terms might be laid out by leaving a posted notification. The bandits are needed to keep your infected numbers down. Eventually the infected should destroy themselves too. Your story does not include any study into their behavior or their feeding. The conservative would have the entire complex monitored, trapped, and protocols on entry and capture if needed. No doubt at some point they could be followed, so you want something ready to render them harmless. Trading could be the start of a new civilization. I expected with all those vehicles the protagonist would try to wire up some other vehicles for more stealthy runs too. Get some binoculars and watch set out trip and tracking to see where the patterns are for who is in the area and in what amounts. So like I said, don't criticize what you don't know. The very ones you cry about might be there to save your bacon someday. Oh and you really think a convenience store is going to be the limitless source of supplies, come on. Why isn't your guy up checking the solar panels, batteries, and control grid to see why the power failed. Why is he so stupid that he doesn't use black out techniques, unless the rest of the area has lighting on? Oak 2x4 bar across the door, salvage a firedoor and use it. More insults to people that are confident in their structures, let alone mention they have faith, great. LMAO
While I agree partly with this sentiment, there's a lot of shit you're saying that is hilariously mistaken. I've seen a ton of conservatives and people who consider themselves preppers that couldn't shoot 3 inch groups sub-moa or run a mile without wheezing because they're too fucking fat. Weapon efficiency, training, and tactical awareness seasoned with common sense is what will keep you alive more than stockpiling shit. Also why would a melee weapon or crossbow need a SUPPRESSOR* not silencer? And makeshift suppressors do not last that long regardless for most rifles and pistols and in actuality unless you use sub-sonic ammunition, will still bring every zombie in the area straight to you. But the dev didn't spend his life training for WROL situations nor knows about actual irl survival outside of most media source material anyway, plus this is a porn game, so temper your expectations lmao.
 

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Is the stats screen buged ?
I only have Carol & Naomi there, Sydney and Alice are missing (not at the part where we meet Hana yet).
It depends on where you are exactly storywise. If this is you first playthrough their stats should show after you met them. I.e. Sydney should appear after Carol confronts her at the infirmary; Alice's when you try to leave Grantsboro.

Since i already deleted my old saves (so kind of first playthrough again) only Carol and Naomi are shown. But when i load my old persistent file they're all there. So it should work just fine.

You made my day btw. because although i play N&T almost since the beginning i never realized there was a stat screen until i read your post. :oops::ROFLMAO:
 
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It depends on where you are exactly storywise. If this is you first playthrough their stats should show after you met them. I.e. Sydney should appear after Carol confronts her at the infirmary; Alice's when you try to leave Grantsboro.

Since i already deleted my old saves (so kind of first playthrough again) only Carol and Naomi are shown. But when i load my old persistent file they're all there. So it should work just fine.

You made my day btw. because although i play N&T almost since the beginning i never realized there was a stat screen until i read your post. :oops::ROFLMAO:
Yeah, i deleted the old saves, including persistent, before i started the directors cut.
I know in the old version the stat screen worked fine for Carol, Naomi, Sydney, Alice and Hana, but with the new version i only have Carol & Naomi and i'm in chapter 21 at the moment.
Just not sure if this is a bug or a new feature, as they would say by Bethesda.

Yes the stat screen is easily overlooked, took me quite a while before i noticed it :LOL:
 
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i don't know..i'm only at chap 7 i guess..(just rescued naomi) and i've take a look at the wt and seems there are so many vsariables that can make u loose points and possibilities..that get me thinking..shouldn't zoey's mod works at least until near the end of the game, so i can use it till near the end and be ok with harem route..and maybe have very little to try and retry to get Harem done at the end???
Probably not. The director's cut not only added 3 new endings, but also 11 more scenes sprinkled throughout the story itself. So the additional choices and writing required to get to those scenes is not going to be included in the mod, and using it is certainly going to lead to errors and bugs. It's gonna break things, no doubt about it.

It isn't a Japanese style VN, where each choice leads down a labyrinthian path and you get different paths for no discernable reason (e.g. the deciding choice between two vastly different and mutually exclusive paths being determined by if you got a boobjob or a blowjob). The game largely follows a linear path, and it's pretty hard to accidently miss content. I mean, if you've managed to tank a girl's stats so bad you miss a scene, you really need to be trying to avoid them or upset them on purpose. Now, some scenes are mutually exclusive (a few Naomi/Carol scenes are like this), or are 'extra content' that will only appear on later playthroughs (these 'alternative scenes' amount to 5 out of 109 total scenes in the gallery). But if you're a decent person with empathy, it's not hard to romance everyone possible.
 
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I know in the old version the stat screen worked fine for Carol, Naomi, Sydney, Alice and Hana, but with the new version i only have Carol & Naomi and i'm in chapter 21 at the moment.
That's funny because the code to unlock the stats seems to be is the same in both versions (to be found in "images.rpy"), and the triggers are at the same places as before, too. :unsure:
persistent.ch11_alt_unlock => Sydney
persistent.parttwo_end => Alice (Sydney and Alice actually)
persistent.methana => Hana
 
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That's funny because the code to unlock the stats seems to be is the same in both versions (to be found in "images.rpy"), and the triggers are at the same places as before, too. :unsure:
persistent.ch11_alt_unlock => Sydney
persistent.parttwo_end => Alice (Sydney and Alice actually)
persistent.methana => Hana
Those are different than what you think. Those don't unlock stats, those unlock different things in the game. The first one was an alternate scene w/ Naomi (not Sydney). The second one was used to show a different "end of game" scene as now you were done with part two. The final one was if you had met Hana, because you have the opportunity to ignore her for a while. It changes dialog.
 

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SEEMS THT ACTRIVATE THE HAREM PATRH IS A HELL OF A THING TO ACHIEVE..AT LEAST WITH THE wt IN FIRST OP PAGE...AND I THINK U CAN'T GET ALL THE GIRLS IN THE HAREM, RIGHT? there is a way zoey mod works at least till near the end? with this point system is really hard to know what to choose and with wich girls...any help? at least have alice-carol-naomy,sidney ..pls
Define Harem ending. I never played with the mod (No offense to Zoey's work). If you are looking for an ending where everyone lives together type of Harem - that isn't happening. The game is designed to have 1 main girl, and you can continue to have relationships with the other girls if you do enough good things along the way. There is an ending for each girl if they are your main girl. There is an ending for the other girls if you are still seeing them (you were good to them and you didn't piss them off). There is also bad endings for each girl. There are also little tweaks (like Sydney/Naomi or Carol/Naomi) doing a three way. All of this is available without the Mod.

What the mod specifically did was show you the "best" ending with each girl and treated each girl as a good ending. So instead of showing the 1 main girl ending you should of gotten based on your choices, it showed you all 7 of the main girl endings. It did no magic but flip all the switches and changed a little logic around.

I am not done with the updated walkthrough for v.99 - so I am not sure how all of this changed in the new version. But at the end of the day - understand there is always a "MAIN GIRL" at the end. You can still see/screw the other girls (now I think Julie and Hana have endings per change log), but they are not MAIN GIRL endings.
 

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I downloaded and went from last save and it seemed a lot less from what I remember from last end.
That is because saves shouldn't work. My saves wouldn't even load (I had about 40 of them since I test all the different paths).
 

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Those are different than what you think. Those don't unlock stats, those unlock different things in the game. The first one was an alternate scene w/ Naomi (not Sydney). The second one was used to show a different "end of game" scene as now you were done with part two. The final one was if you had met Hana, because you have the opportunity to ignore her for a while. It changes dialog.
Yeah, i know. What i meant was this:

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inconsistency in renders is crazy here, not sure if it's a result of remaster or not, been a while since i played original, but hair color of characters are all over the place - MC goes between dark-red, red, ginger and blonde colors, Carol between black, brown, ginger and blonde, others switch occasionally too
 
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ive seen Interim Domain, thats an interesting game and its nice because there is no lesbian in there.

but is it still possible to get threesome without lesbian or bi relationships? i've researched here and seen that threesome are only ever a thing if the girls are bi or something.

i want threesome but prevent them from being lesbian.
 

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ive seen Interim Domain, thats an interesting game and its nice because there is no lesbian in there.

but is it still possible to get threesome without lesbian or bi relationships? i've researched here and seen that threesome are only ever a thing if the girls are bi or something.

i want threesome but prevent them from being lesbian.
Not your game then. All threesomes involve Naomi, and she is bisexual.
 
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Not your game then. All threesomes involve Naomi, and she is bisexual.
Wasn't there a option when Naomi asked MC about her with Sidney (at school) and asked for permission? I didn't play that route, but if I remember correctly there was that asking. I think if you didn't gave her permission, she would not ask again for lesbian sex.
 
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