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[Ivriktwo]

Now on a weird note I have quite the weird topic you see...... there was this game "MajiLove ~Watashi Negative~" that looked really nice but it was just released for a few days and then it dissapeared. Did anyone obtain it before it dissapeared? The game looked so nice at the time that i saved the name but didn´t have the means to obtain it in the store

 

[Ivriktwo]

Now on a weird note I have quite the weird topic you see...... there was this game "MajiLove ~Watashi Negative~" that looked really nice but it was just released for a few days and then it dissapeared. Did anyone obtain it before it dissapeared? The game looked so nice at the time that i saved the name but didn´t have the means to obtain it in the store

The synopsis was something like this:
The main character, Hina, has collapsed on the beach of an unknown island for some reason.
Until just now, Hina was on a school trip and was supposed to be on the ferry.
Hina works with her male homeroom teacher, who also collapsed on the beach, and arrives at a village in another world.
The two go to the village lord's mansion, but end up being imprisoned in a prison along with a male teacher.
Even though Hina has a boyfriend she just started dating, she is stuck in a closed room in a dungeon with no escape.
The evil hand of a male teacher who lusted after Hina was about to approach her...

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

I forgot, there's also another ntr game that has rng elements on it. Tennants of the Dead. There's a lot of flaws in it, but if it's properly executed and balanced , it will definitely become the top 1 game that NTRMAN will make. (Most of the scenes in the game was meh and it needs more variations like adding closeup perspectives)

When it comes to ntr, I think a concept based on the game "60 seconds!" will be a good one. I dont mind seeng more of it honestly, a nuclear fallout theme, or even if it's another zombie themed with different set locations. Heck , I can see a stranded island survival can work as well.

 

[Klab040855]

the moment the player/reader confirms the women having sex with someone else visually the NTR Mystery is over. If this is done early in the game then it's not NTR Mystery but a NTR Drama. think more Hercule Poirot story vs. a Columbo episode. something like Henteria Chronicles, Chapter 1 is NTR Drama, Scars of Summer is NTR mystery and something like
Spiral Legend V let you choose which one you want. For the gaptax game if you search for the MC wife it stops being Mystery cause you can see quite clearly what she doing with the pixel art.

I always like Spiral mystery NTR, the game kept you on the edge, teasing you that the NTR has happening when it was not, i never knew when the NTR would happen or if it already happened. I don't get the same feeling from Scars of summer or the gaptax game because you know when the NTR is happening.

 

[melantha]

Where ntr will punish you depending on your luck. I know there some people out there that loves to make their main objective to avoid ntr as much as possible. As an ntr-focused game, I dont think this will be a fun one to play with.

this is actually a good point. it made me rethink my priorities.
this is also questioned by the fact in under FMC Classes, there's pure class that fully avoids NTR.
I didnt include it, but there are also future concepts like customizing players, like if you remove the male enemy, and add 2 more female players, it becomes a harem game.
im also starting to question my ntr focus.

I hope this wont damper your enthusiasm in your game.Think of it as a challenge, or "prove me wrong" situation.

this is a good feedback nonetheless.
i see perspectives that need to be addressed even at this stage, so we can formulate alternative paths and approach we can do early on, and not discover it late where we're already deep

thank you!

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

this is actually a good point. it made me rethink my priorities.
this is also questioned by the fact in under FMC Classes, there's pure class that fully avoids NTR.
I didnt include it, but there are also future concepts like customizing players, like if you remove the male enemy, and add 2 more female players, it becomes a harem game.
im also starting to question my ntr focus.



this is a good feedback nonetheless.
i see perspectives that need to be addressed even at this stage, so we can formulate alternative paths and approach we can do early on, and not discover it late where we're already deep

thank you!

Yeah, just go for a general porn game. This will certainly work, and I will def play it if it comes out. Maybe you can even play around classes around the antagonist , like an Ugly Bastard class with different perks like having more range in his skill tiles. It will be very interesting to play with if this one in particular is implemented.

Make a different class of MC as well , like the Oblivious Idiot class, which has only limited dice rolls or something.

But then again, adding these ones can make your workload heavier. Especially in the CG side of things , assuming that you'll make different scenarios in each type of mcs ,antagonists and the heroines classes even if it's 3 each class at most.

 

[cleanfeel]

This dude The Ugly Bastard is always looking for attention, won't even bother to read all of that shit after reading that Scars of Summer was an overhyped mess lmao!

Hot take, I also think Scars of Summer is overhyped. At best it's above average. Not the #1 game that dlsite sales indicate. Definition of overhype.

The corruption and NTR just didn't make much sense. In short...

Overall: I like the fact that you have to try to "work" for the true love route. I don't like the fact that the girl doesn't start in a relationship with you. I guess it does have a sense of "lost" to have your first crush love someone else, but it's really different from a more traditional girlfriend or wife cuckold. Narratively for the backstory, it's better than average. But there just isn't enough "dating" for me to get invested in the girl.

1. Thug route - I like the idea of the thug taunting you around school as he fucks your girl. Probably my favorite route. The blackmail was realistic. Though the corruption was a bit on the meh side. I also wanted her to fight back more instead of just succumbing to the sex, quite easily I might add. Within a month she becomes a cock sleeve?

2. Homeless guy route - Stupid shit. Have you guys ever smelled the inside of a train car with a homeless man inside during the winter where he goes to sleep because it's cold out? Literally every single person goes out the car because they can't stand a single minute within 10 feet of the guy. You want to tell me this pristine high school girl tapped that without throwing up? Lol. Here's an article for those of you who don't live in a city with trains.

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3. Rich boy route - "Oh give me a fucking break. We lost some stupid ass game and now you get to grab my tits and make me suck your dick? Are you stupid? " -- that's what your sister's friend say to you if you try that shit, you middle school boy with zero sexual attraction, zero intimidation, and zero threat.

 

[cleanfeel]

requesting feedback about this concept.

since I've been thinking about it since coming up with it recently.
an NTR board game... with dice rolls and pieces moving across.
there's turns for mc, fmc, and villain

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First, amazing work laying out your game like this. I appreciate a smart dev who tries to do something out of the norm instead of the same old shit "go here, talk to this person, trigger this scene" or "yes no" for ntr or not.

My first thought when I saw the game was:

1. You're going to need a tremendous number of scenes to keep the game going.
2. You're going to need a lot of programming to even get the game going without the h stuff.
3. Once you're ready to put h stuff in, you're going to need a lot of conditionals to keep the events interesting. For example, you could easily use a classic "corruption" level but you'll end up with repeating events.
3a. For example, if the "FMC is stuck in classroom", turn 1 scene, turn 2 scene, turn 3 scene, etc. path plays out. You're going to run out of scenes fast with how big the board looks
3b. How does the day night cycle come into play here? If FMC is stuck on a trap, scene progresses. An entire day passes? Not understanding this

I think you should release a very small demo, with a single variation of scene, without images and pure text. Just to see how it plays out. An NTR game like this is diffcult: too easy and the game is irrelevant. Just make it a gallery simulator. Too hard and people will bitch and moan. Too easy and you have to intentionally lose to get scenes.

 

[Pango_12]

The final comm on Colonel route is fire. What's the name for it?
The part where she makes the camera 'dirty'.
It's so good, I was actually shocked when I see it for the first time. Did RaiOhgar also have it? It had been a long while since I played that.

 

[melantha]

First, amazing work laying out your game like this. I appreciate a smart dev who tries to do something out of the norm instead of the same old shit "go here, talk to this person, trigger this scene" or "yes no" for ntr or not.

My first thought when I saw the game was:

1. You're going to need a tremendous number of scenes to keep the game going.
2. You're going to need a lot of programming to even get the game going without the h stuff.
3. Once you're ready to put h stuff in, you're going to need a lot of conditionals to keep the events interesting. For example, you could easily use a classic "corruption" level but you'll end up with repeating events.
3a. For example, if the "FMC is stuck in classroom", turn 1 scene, turn 2 scene, turn 3 scene, etc. path plays out. You're going to run out of scenes fast with how big the board looks
3b. How does the day night cycle come into play here? If FMC is stuck on a trap, scene progresses. An entire day passes? Not understanding this

1. hmm I believe this ties in with your concern #3, that scenes will get depleted quick.
fmc can move the next turn after triggering a scene. she is not stuck.
so all 4 progressive parts of a 'pool event' for example, will not be depleted the moment she steps on one.
she needs to move through the board again and step on another pool event to progress it.

2. it is true, it will have alot of programming, especially not using an already established engine like RPGM nor the like. I've already been working on it since previous concepts, and glad to say the engine is ready, and only the game needs to be built on top of it now.

3. she can move the next turn. she is not stuck in place if she triggers a trap. days will proceed as normal.
this is contrary to the old post where I mentioned you need to reach her to stop the event, but this one is scrapped in the current draft.

I think you should release a very small demo, with a single variation of scene, without images and pure text. Just to see how it plays out. An NTR game like this is diffcult: too easy and the game is irrelevant. Just make it a gallery simulator. Too hard and people will bitch and moan. Too easy and you have to intentionally lose to get scenes.

this is a good idea. just prototype of the interface, gameplay, no images just dialog to see how it feels.
might do that.

 

[Son1cc]

Hot take, I also think Scars of Summer is overhyped. At best it's above average. Not the #1 game that dlsite sales indicate. Definition of overhype.

The corruption and NTR just didn't make much sense. In short...

All of your points come down to realism logic but it's a hentai fiction.. What really matters is whether it's hot or not, so it's all subjective.

 

[Kilometer Immorales]

If you use the bing searcher you can find links, enjoyable game, i really liked the mechanics

Wait, is that game out? Can you share the link here?

 

[Damnboio]

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Has anybody tried this?

 

[LordFrz]

The final comm on Colonel route is fire. What's the name for it?
The part where she makes the camera 'dirty'.
It's so good, I was actually shocked when I see it for the first time. Did RaiOhgar also have it? It had been a long while since I played that.

I agree, what an amazing scene. And no, I dont recall somthin like that in Raiohgar.

 

[Prettz]

I always like Spiral mystery NTR, the game kept you on the edge, teasing you that the NTR has happening when it was not, i never knew when the NTR would happen or if it already happened. I don't get the same feeling from Scars of summer or the gaptax game because you know when the NTR is happening.

yeah I thought things where happening way before they did and with all the clues I found what I thought was going on was way different from what was really going on. Scars of summer and Gaptax has the problem of not really connecting the the main girl while in Spiral Legend V you can spend a good 5 to 10 hours before the NTR even starts with her. that slow unease that builds up even thou things seem to be fine.

 

[LordFrz]

good 5 to 10 hours before the NTR even starts

Yea, and that fuckin sucks. That way too long imo. Now if im playing it every 1-2 months like a WIP game like Hentaria, then its not a big deal. But on a completed game, thats way too long, same way I feel about hentaria chronicles when they are completed. I think something like Gaptax latest game Solgante's, ugly bastard route is perfectly my kind of pacing for a porn game.

Its probably one of the reasons I hated Nebel Geisterjäger, its just way too much of a slow burn for me. (Combat was also ass, lol)

I haven't tried Spiral Legend V yet, are the CGs good? The only images I see are the combat screens. ( Oh, it has no CG, just saw that) Add in your saying it will be a 5+hr investment for anything to get cookin kinda scares me away from it. Yea, probably not a game for me.

Not every game will be made for me, so no big deal.

 

[Shigeru Miyamoto]

Tried this, not impressed.

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One thing to note though, this one has 1 layer of clothing progression with heroine corruption. This makes it different from the other A.I trash. Hopefully the dev experiments with new ideas in his next game. I'm not against A.I art, but if the devs plan to use it then they should improve other areas of the game.

 

[Prettz]

I think something like Gaptax latest game Solgante's, ugly bastard route is perfectly my kind of pacing for a porn game.

Its probably one of the reasons I hated Nebel Geisterjäger, its just way too much of a slow burn for me. (Combat was also ass, lol)

I haven't tried Spiral Legend V yet, are the CGs good? The only images I see are the combat screens. ( Oh, it has no CG, just saw that) Add in your saying it will be a 5+hr investment for anything to get cookin kinda scares me away from it. Yea, probably not a game for me.

Nebel Geisterjäger dose have pasing issues and setting up the NTR to happen is a pain in the game play and battles are slow.

yeah Spiral Legend V might not be for you. to see everthing and not cheat can take a good 50 hours on the game. first time I played it I keept looking for NTR clues not knowing I never trigger the NTR route XD I did enjoy the battle system so I actively grinded and learn all the hidden classes for each character for fun so my play time might be a bit bloated to what it is for most players.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

Alright , after just finishing the recent Gaptax game (took me a few days), I can honestly say....It's a pretty good game!

The three routes are equally good in their own perspectives. No complex things happening, no bullshits , just a fun game over all.The h sound effects and moans ,albeit being standard, is properly incorporated. Scenes are hot , esp on the playboy and shota route. I also love the upgrade on the screen scenes during missions, compared to his prior game. Also ,it has a decent amount of scene variations in every h event which is always welcome. What else...

...right, there's no sharing the heroine or pimping her out. (Not that it's a bad thing and I dont really mind if that happens, but I enjoy intimate corruption than gangbangs)

Now, for things that it should be implemented to make the game better:

-It's a missed opportunity that there's no proper sfx and va during those missions. A quality asmr style during the scenes wouldve nailed it

-I understand why it's not fully implemented.... wouldve liked it if there's also a cg recollection about the mission scenes but in heroine's perspective.I know there's some, but I want all of it be seen.

-Wouldve been nice if there's an item that teleports you in recollection room instead of always walking back everytime you want to see what happened.

-More Mechanic lady scenes please.Because I'm biased towards short haired busty ladies.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

The final comm on Colonel route is fire. What's the name for it?

What game is that?