Recommending NTR, netorare, cuckold - resources, discussion, development

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Kulman

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Female MC is only not NTR if she initiates the cheating in a completely willing manner. All netorare means is to be stolen, there are no perspective or flavor requirements. So long as somebody is getting stolen from somebody, it's NTR. Even if some people think its weak, even if some people don't like it, doesn't mean it's not netorare. It's supposed to be a broad term encompassing a lot of sub-genres.

Though personally, I find it funniest when a Japanese game has NTR in the title and a bunch of weirdos climb out of the woodwork to say, "That's not NTR!", like they understand a Japanese porn term better than a Japanese person making porn.
I mean, yeah, they do? I dont have to be italian to tell a pizza from a pie. A lot of devs abuse the ntr tag so it attracts customers, although there is very little ntr about it.
 
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Best NTR is a feeling of loss from the MCs perspective, not the relief you would feel from dodging a bullet when you find out your GF was a communal cum dump and can just forget about that hoe. lol
For me, NTR shines the most when it's ultimately like some psychosexual duel between two men over one woman. it's like a chivalrous rivalry. It feels more personal when you lose in that case, and the effect that has on you is greater. Whenever an NTR game or story has scenes of gangbang or even MMF threesomes, I start to really lose interest. One of my biggest gripes with NTR games is when male characters don't have facial features, especially eyes. It's kind of silly to think about but having facial features really does add a lot not just to the character but also to the entire feeling of NTR. It hits more when you lose your girl to a despicable prick who actually has his own emotions and motives shown on his face. I also just think it looks better than subtly forces the author to make their character interesting.

Then again I am bi and this is an admittedly homoerotic perspective on NTR lol.
 

crnisl

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Again, to me Fem POV games unless your BF/GF/husband etc. gets stolen which virtually never happens aren't netorare games and I doubt they fit Netorare definitions you can find here in the first message or on VNDB

I guess, for me (and many other people?), ntr is just a flavor, spice for a corruption story. And as long, as there's enough of this spice - the girl experiences the feeling of betraying, the fucker(s) recall the cuck in a mocking way, etc. - that's definitely ntr.

For example, The Student Council President Is My Sexfriend. It's written from a pov of a bull, and it's supposed to make you sympathize with him, traumatic childhood and suchlike things. But I definitely didn't associate myself with him much, and read for observing the heroine's inner turmoil.

Did I associate myself with her? Not much as well, I think.

Do you associate yourself with wood when looking at fire?

Bu there are three things you can watch forever: fire burning, water falling, and... humans getting broken.

And that's a primal gut feeling. The most important knowledge is a knowledge about humans. The true knowledge about a thing is a knowledge about the thing's destruction.
 

kotfpp

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I guess, for me (and many other people?), ntr is just a flavor, spice for a corruption story. And as long, as there's enough of this spice - the girl experiences the feeling of betraying, the fucker(s) recall the cuck in a mocking way, etc. - that's definitely ntr.

For example, The Student Council President Is My Sexfriend. It's written from a pov of a bull, and it's supposed to make you sympathize with him, traumatic childhood and suchlike things. But I definitely didn't associate myself with him much, and read for observing the heroine's inner turmoil.

Did I associate myself with her? Not much as well, I think.

Do you associate yourself with wood when looking at fire?

Bu there are three things you can watch forever: fire burning, water falling, and... humans getting broken.

And that's a primal gut feeling. The most important knowledge is a knowledge about humans. The true knowledge about a thing is a knowledge about the thing's destruction.
words and tags need definition beyond how you vaguely feel about them. kind of sucks that this gets brought up so often
 

warbandit18

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NTR for me hits harder if the ntrd guy is actually competent but still fails. Most ntrs nowadays have the small dick instantly give up guy which just doesnt work for me atleast. Hidden NTR is great cause the thin line of the MC exposing himself to the truth or not is a good thing which isnt explored enough or explored in a somehwat goofy way. Its mostly the despair the mc feels that works so well in these scenarios. Slow NTR with hidden mechanics with an competent cast is the best for me that way. Also the Girls personality is a main attraction for NTR. Is it the slow obvlious girl that gets easily tricked or the hard cold and dominant one that gets slowly corrupted into a mellow being.

Its why Netorase sometimes is better cause both the bull and the ntrd guy cant win in the end cause both have only possess a part of why the girl likes them so both experience a form of despair/brokenness. If done right ofcourse.
 

melantha

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speaking of female protagonists vs NTR, what do you guys think about Magical Girl Tear Sweet?

yuika has a little brother, and a senpai that is a love interest, which she actually gets to have sex with during main quest

but she is still subject to touches and sex scenes with other people

Technically not NTR, but some enjoyers can still get something out if it through self-insert on the senpai. while playing it, I did think about being jealous why yuika is doing it with other guys.

heck, during NTR drought seasons I can even self-insert on games without males, thinking they're my actual companions. remember, all of this is in our heads. make your own fantasy, and make the best of all this. it's your mind, your world.

In the end, do you guys fap because of the words tagged in game descriptions? you fap coz something in a game gave you a boner. the only difference is the discoverability which isn't perfect in the industry anyways. thats why we're here, for recommendations and things we may have missed, and things others might have missed so we share it.

that was a good excuse, I really just wanted to talk about Tear Sweet coz yuika is so cute
 

Chitsune

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I've started this one, mainly because I liked the hidden footjob at the start.
It's not bad per se since mc is oblivious, but it lacks actual adventures to know the characters and get attached to them, so right now it feels more like concluding/ending chapters.
If you like adventures how about this long Isekai one.

少女冒険者パーティを守りきれない
 
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Pango_12

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Now that I check syosetu daily, I can't help but notice that not-NTR or netori could rake in points so quickly.
Even the badly written ones.
 

lolicon77

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Seeing the talks about novels got me interested. Would anyone be able to recommend me novels with hidden sex elements or oblivious mc? I would love to see stuff like that in writing but im not sure where to start/look.
 

Komdot

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Do you guys have a list of games (NTR) with porn or in-game magazines?

I can remember Nebel, Rain Shelter Frog games, Sanctuary of Promise and Contract, Shadowcore and Kanae. If anyone knows more games with this gold trope
 

Pango_12

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Seeing the talks about novels got me interested. Would anyone be able to recommend me novels with hidden sex elements or oblivious mc? I would love to see stuff like that in writing but im not sure where to start/look.
Again,
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and from NTRmaster.
If you want NTR Mystery for this one:
Prologue, 02, 03, 04-06 (Protagonist's First Night with the wives), 08-09, 17 (only the first part), 20 (only the first part), 25, epilogue, <Characters> (After epilogue), Later 4 (if you want to see Harem NTR end and protagonist not finding out), 25 IF (If you like reveal).

EDIT: I forgot, here's the search for Syosetu. .
 
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