Hey look at the bright side. When both versions are out, we then can have a choice to cuck Shota or John.
Unity Ntraholic [v3.3.3u] [Tiramisu]
- Sep 18, 2017
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That's VERY FUNNY AND SATISFYING
I remember the dev roasting me and justifying himself on this very topic when I complained about the game not being 100% finished, no endless mode, abrupt ending, and the fact that the updates were getting extremely long, for what he was trying to achieve, ect...
Happy to see time proved me right, and showed how sketchy tiramisu is, willingly, or unwillingly.
When you want to cater for everyone, you'll lose the people who first followed you. I hope the "mass" will stick with Tiramisu for his next game (if he makes any), because a lot of old supporters are done with this.
I'm a tad sad I gave money for this game, but hey, **** happens.
Waiting eagerly the next GapTax game, which I will buy, but I swear to god, if Tiramisu makes another game, I won't support it.
- May 22, 2018
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This is really a letdown, and a serious one, no news on steam, or twitter. And this last time announcement for art style changes and AGAIN the delay. "Publisher asked uss" and "US audience" and "western style art" are all red flags. OK, they will please the US audience, but others will be disappointed, for sure. I don't really discuss such things on the internet, but this is a bunch of bullshit. This US publishers censoring every cranny of the games they don't like is becoming very annoying.
This game is constantly getting huge L after L, I'm fucking done waiting for this. Already removed this on my Steam wishlist....
Holy fuck.
Tiramisu is truly pushing the boundaries of NTR genre by cucking the audience BEFORE THE GAME EVEN FUCKING RELEASES.
Tiramisu is truly pushing the boundaries of NTR genre by cucking the audience BEFORE THE GAME EVEN FUCKING RELEASES.
Is it possible to add a game to steam without having to have an editor, I've seen that critical bliss put many buts on several games, is it possible to upload a game in steam ignoring he/she opinion?
I only have a short wishlist on Steam, and now that they post something like that, then yeah it's off from my wishlist. Who the F care about Euro/American art style change??? F THAT! Damn how much ignorant is the dev that he had to change the art style while most of their potential buyer doesn't request that and more concern about bug fix and release date?? The only reason we want to buy the Steam version is the uncensored graphic and quality official translation. THAT'S IT!! Who care about art style change?? I never request that and I happily remove the game from my wishlist. You won't see a penny from me.
why would he make it western style when the good thing about the game is corrupting this hot married asian woman
- May 22, 2018
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ci-en post:
私たちはコメント欄を読み、多くの支援者がこの変更に満足していないことに気づきました。以下にそれらを要約してみる。
-. 遅延は起こっています。遅れて申し訳ありません。できるだけ早く完成させたいと思います。
-. アートが変わります。より西洋風であることを明言すべきではなかった。私はそこに非常に注意し、それが私の個人的な意見であり、引用しないことを述べました。変更点についての懸念（スチーム版にのみ適用されることに注意してください）については、私たちはこれらのいくつかの例を与え、それらがどのようなものであるかを説明する詳細な記事を与えるでしょう。もう少し多くのサンプルを見ることで、プレイヤーに自信を与えることができるかもしれません。
-. 無検閲。私たちは、多くのプレイヤーが無修正を待ち望んでいることを理解しています。ただ、dlsiteでそれを行うのはとても難しい。dlsiteのアップデートが終わった後の次のステージのために、私たちはこのこと（無修正版の構築）をToDoリストに入れました。もう少し時間をください。
We read the comments section and realize that a lot of our backers are not happy with the changes. We try to summarize them below.
-. The delay is happening. Sorry about the delay. We would try finishing it as sson as possible.
-. The art changes. I should have not stated it is more western style. I have been very careful there and stated it is just my personal opinion and dont quote. Regarding the fear on the changes(please note it would only apply to steam version), we would give some examples on these and give a detailed post explaining what they are like. Seeing a few more samples might give more confidence to the players.
-. The uncensoring. We understand that a lot of the players are waiting for the uncensoring. It is just so hard to do it on dlsite. We have put it down(builidng the uncensored version) in our to-do list for the next stage after the updates on dlsite are done and see what we could really do about that. Please give us some more time.
我们看了评论区，意识到我们的很多支持者对这些变化不满意。我们尝试将其总结如下。
-. 延迟是有的。对延迟感到抱歉。我们会试着尽快完成它。
-. 艺术的变化。我不应该说这是更多的西方风格。我已经很小心了，并说明这只是我的个人意见，不要引用。关于对变化的担心（请注意这只适用于steam版本），我们会给出一些例子，并给出一个详细的帖子来解释它们是什么样的。看到一些更多的例子可能会给玩家更多的信心。
-. 不审查的问题。我们理解很多玩家都在等待解禁。它只是在网站上很难做到这一点。我们已经把它（建立未审查的版本）放在我们的待办事项列表中，在dlsite上的更新完成后的下一阶段，看看我们能真正做些什么。请再给我们一些时间。
I don't know It is stupidity or lack of information, or something else, but it becomes annoying. I understand that to release the game on steam they need to cut some things, case law and some other shit. But then give us the opportunity to get this cut shit back via patch or something like that. And art changes needed to be specified, exactly what and where was cut. And release delays...
私たちはコメント欄を読み、多くの支援者がこの変更に満足していないことに気づきました。以下にそれらを要約してみる。
-. 遅延は起こっています。遅れて申し訳ありません。できるだけ早く完成させたいと思います。
-. アートが変わります。より西洋風であることを明言すべきではなかった。私はそこに非常に注意し、それが私の個人的な意見であり、引用しないことを述べました。変更点についての懸念（スチーム版にのみ適用されることに注意してください）については、私たちはこれらのいくつかの例を与え、それらがどのようなものであるかを説明する詳細な記事を与えるでしょう。もう少し多くのサンプルを見ることで、プレイヤーに自信を与えることができるかもしれません。
-. 無検閲。私たちは、多くのプレイヤーが無修正を待ち望んでいることを理解しています。ただ、dlsiteでそれを行うのはとても難しい。dlsiteのアップデートが終わった後の次のステージのために、私たちはこのこと（無修正版の構築）をToDoリストに入れました。もう少し時間をください。
We read the comments section and realize that a lot of our backers are not happy with the changes. We try to summarize them below.
-. The delay is happening. Sorry about the delay. We would try finishing it as sson as possible.
-. The art changes. I should have not stated it is more western style. I have been very careful there and stated it is just my personal opinion and dont quote. Regarding the fear on the changes(please note it would only apply to steam version), we would give some examples on these and give a detailed post explaining what they are like. Seeing a few more samples might give more confidence to the players.
-. The uncensoring. We understand that a lot of the players are waiting for the uncensoring. It is just so hard to do it on dlsite. We have put it down(builidng the uncensored version) in our to-do list for the next stage after the updates on dlsite are done and see what we could really do about that. Please give us some more time.
我们看了评论区，意识到我们的很多支持者对这些变化不满意。我们尝试将其总结如下。
-. 延迟是有的。对延迟感到抱歉。我们会试着尽快完成它。
-. 艺术的变化。我不应该说这是更多的西方风格。我已经很小心了，并说明这只是我的个人意见，不要引用。关于对变化的担心（请注意这只适用于steam版本），我们会给出一些例子，并给出一个详细的帖子来解释它们是什么样的。看到一些更多的例子可能会给玩家更多的信心。
-. 不审查的问题。我们理解很多玩家都在等待解禁。它只是在网站上很难做到这一点。我们已经把它（建立未审查的版本）放在我们的待办事项列表中，在dlsite上的更新完成后的下一阶段，看看我们能真正做些什么。请再给我们一些时间。
I don't know It is stupidity or lack of information, or something else, but it becomes annoying. I understand that to release the game on steam they need to cut some things, case law and some other shit. But then give us the opportunity to get this cut shit back via patch or something like that. And art changes needed to be specified, exactly what and where was cut. And release delays...
To be fair to the dev and Steam. It is the publisher requesting the changes. They believe the changes will make the game sell better oh Steam. It was ultimately the dev who approved the changes but it was suggestion from the partners he choose so it would be smart to listen. It is like hiring a realtor and not listening when they suggest you remodel your house before sell. Not happy with or defending the decision but at least direct the angry to proper party.
except we already got potential buyer who nearly close the deal and got the documents ready then i decided to hire an realtor to made more ads and the realtor just mess around. so is the problem only lies with the realtor or do i bare responsibility for that. i think tiramisu is way to ambitious should have done step by step not this crap
As I said it was the dev who approved the changes so he should be blamed for prioritizing his publisher requests instead of his backers and current customers. But it was publisher wanted the change. The publisher should be knowledge expert and know what is best. Blame the publisher the changes and the dev for not being skilled and confident enough to not follow the supposed expert's advice.
- Sep 25, 2021
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A good move from the developer would be to post examples of art changes at the same time with these news, so everyone could see it themselves, not like "You know, we decided to change art btw, but we would show you examples. Someday, yes". It's a failed marketing
- May 22, 2018
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The problem is the DEV itself. The game was supposed to be released in Feb. and now it is delayed for December minimum. He already said that he needed to do some minor changes BEFORE he collaborated with critical bliss. And now it became his
excuse for more delays and reworks. He could already release the game, and then he could do some patches. But no, he decided to stay silent until the end. And now he comes with more excuses. I was 100% sure that i would buy this game on steam, but now, now I'm not sure if I will buy it on dlsite either. (It's ~40%) He could throw his ambitions away and do something about this situation. I know that developing a game is not easy. But this is not Cyberpunk, or Starfield with a lot of ground to cover. And he decided to rework the whole game. This is bullshit.
I'm so angry about some porn. This is stupid somehow.
That is weird to me. I can understand someone who has already gave the dev money getting angry. But I would never get angry with "How dare the dev delay me from giving him my money!"
This game has been a lesson to anyone bought the game already. Be careful with paying for something not deliverable yet. It can be delayed without any input. I wonder how people will support his next work?
This is just sad and very disappointing tbh. Been looking forward for the finished/uncensored version for a long time only to receive constant news of delays/reworks despite that the initial versions look great already. Not looking forward to the "western art style" change they plan to implement. Sucks for the people who have been supporting this dev since day 1 only to get cucked.