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Silk_Ari

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It's not really that hard to "believe" that a kid that's been sheltered his entire life from anything to do with shady business actively by everyone around him, including his prep school, friends and family would be naive. The MC always viewed "Frank" as a business man, involved in corruption yes, but not into hits/murder/etc..... I think if you ask alot of kids of mobsters/killers/shady business guys they would say... I had no clue what was going on. I hear rumors...but I didn't believe them.
 
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AWolfe

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I hear rumors...but I didn't believe them.
There are people who won't believe things they don't want to believe, even after you show them video proof of what they don't want to believe. "That never happened!" (yes, it did and here's the video)

There's also the old cliche "Love is blind." In the MC's case it's true. He's also deaf and dumb.
 
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It's not really that hard to "believe" that a kid that's been sheltered his entire life from anything to do with shady business actively by everyone around him, including his prep school, friends and family would be naive. The MC always viewed "Frank" as a business man, involved in corruption yes, but not into hits/murder/etc..... I think if you ask alot of kids of mobsters/killers/shady business guys they would say... I had no clue what was going on. I hear rumors...but I didn't believe them.
All people I know that fit the description are "I hear rumors...but I didn't believe them." or involved themselves. But it's normal for my country I guess. Corruption and shady business are common here.
 

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The "I didn't know" can be the case if you're a scion of one of the underbosses/leutenents, crooked politician etc. I guess it's harder to believe when it's the big boss himself and your name IS the gang's name, ala a Capone, a Luciano or an Escobar not knowing what the family business is.
 

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Hate when they start at 1.0 which tricks people into thinking it is done and at Beta stage. Than it is version 2.75 once they are done.
Here's a clue: on F95 when a game is done it gets a Completed tag.

Ari tells me that the current plan is for 3 arcs, each with 10 updates. So by the current versioning system the game would be complete when it's "v4.0", and what he's been calling V2 on Discord should be called "v1.1" here.
 

Silk_Ari

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I suppose this version should technically be 0.1 -> I shall fix that in the bug fix release.
 

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It fits the theme. I mean he's a sheltered richie rich that never lacked anything in his life.
Yeah i guess it makes sense, but hes just so annoying i could not play this for more than 10 minutes
 

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It's not really that hard to "believe" that a kid that's been sheltered his entire life from anything to do with shady business actively by everyone around him, including his prep school, friends and family would be naive. The MC always viewed "Frank" as a business man, involved in corruption yes, but not into hits/murder/etc.....
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Jane is awesome, such a sweet girl :love:
but what if her boss tells her about MC, will she freak out and run away from him? :unsure:
Paulie for sure fucked him up real good after MC left :devilish:
 
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Jane is awesome, such a sweet girl :love:
but what if her boss tells her about MC, will she freak out and run away from him? :unsure:
Paulie for sure fucked him up real good after MC left :devilish:
Well he'd better keep his trap shut and say he fell down the stairs or something :cautious: . Break the code of Omerta and he swimming with the fishes :devilish:

Longer term, here's my current theory on the LI paths.

Jane path: Godfather Pt.2 path. She will like it less and less the more hardened criminal you go
Angela path: Romeo & Juliet path. I'm guessing she's the daughter of some big shot in the Tripanis (As to why they feel they've met before; the families were allied 20 years ago, so they may have been guarded in the same compound or met as toddlers while their dads were in strategy meetings during the mob war).
Cousin: Opposite of Jane. She will like it more if you go hard core boss, but think you're a pansy if you take a kinder/gentler approach in running the criminal empire.

I said theory, but I'll rephrase that and say "my wild guesses" :LOL:
 

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Why would anyone want to play an"adult" (a nicer way to say porn) game with a monogamy route? That seriously blows my mind. WHY?

BTW, this "game" (which I wouldnt call it that exactly) is a VN, not a "open world concept game". There are choices and routes but at the base, its a fixed story driven VN.
 

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Why would anyone want to play an"adult" (a nicer way to say porn) game with a monogamy route? That seriously blows my mind. WHY?

BTW, this "game" (which I wouldnt call it that exactly) is a VN, not a "open world concept game". There are choices and routes but at the base, its a fixed story driven VN.
I prefer harem route but I gonna say because some people are emotionally invested into some character. Or some people are in for a story (weird for porn game. I know) and monogamy route is more fitting.
 

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Some people, who didn't read the MC's inner dialogue closely, seem to be confusing the player having no choice about having sex and the character himself not having a choice. The MC in the game is not forced to have sex. He's not raped, or even coerced. He cheerfully goes along with it. He wants it, which is made very, very clear in his thoughts. The game has a story that's being told. There are reasons why the author has decided not to allow deviance from a few set paths, and those reasons are part of the story that will be unfolding. As he said a couple of posts above, this is not an open-world game. It's not intended to be nor has it claimed to be.
 

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Looks good, so far the writing has been great. I do feel the MC is a tad bit more naive than is believable but otherwise that isn't a big concern. Would like a little more choices to make in the game but I realize this is a first chapter.

I really like the "bulletin board" which allows us to edit characters before we meet them. It's a very nice touch and I now wish more devs did something similar.

All of the renders and characters look good and are distinctive, parents actually look older, sister has cute freckles, just well done.

I look forward to chapter 2 and wherever this story goes. Especially want to see how my choices impact the story, for example the gambling versus drugs versus both decision.
 

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Personally I love harem VNs, or at least VNs that allow them. I'll give you a good example that I just caught up with today... "Freeloading Family", right now all that is left is the endings, it leads you right up to the last choice. But here's the thing, VN gave you the choices to sleep with all the girls when it came up in the story, you could choose not to or you could keep them all up to the very end.

In OoL so far the player gets to choose between the two girls from the cafe, but is going to have sex with their choice no matter what. And then again with their cousin, yes I'm calling her his cousin cause we all know that's what she is intended to be, we as the player get no say in the matter of if they have sex and then subsquently get caught by MC's sister the next morning. Honestly I would have chosen to sleep with her either way, but the fact of the matter remains that it causes the player/reader/choice maker, what ever you want to call them, to feel like they were stripped away of their choice in a media where they are all use to having that exact choice, or even working for that choice. Thus it can rub some people the wrong way when not only is it simply handed to them, but in reality forced upon them.

As for the comments about how it isn't forced upon the MC and that they are into it and all for it, this is technically true. That being said many of us who play these VNs try to put ourselves into the shoes of the MC. That's why in "Good Girls Gone Bad" my character always turns out to be a good person who only dipped their toe into the bad pool, because otherwise I would have to force myself to make the "bad" choices. So when someone, which I did in my review, says that it was forced on the MC what they really mean is it is forced on them, while they are in the mindset of the MC and perhaps it was something that their headcannon of the MC would not do, because they would not do it, or at minimum they would have liked the choice even if their choice was going to be the same outcome as how it is written now.

Finally I would like to address the developer, please do not allow any comments or reviews that come about dishearten you from continuing to create your game/VN/story, ect. I will be the first one to tell you that you aren't ever going to be able to please everyone. My advice to you is to make the game for you, not for other people, but because you have a story and VN that you enjoy and feel proud of. If you do that you will find others who agree and will enjoy it as well.
 

Silk_Ari

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My comment was not to put anyone down, it is actually one of astonishment and surprise. I just dont understand why you'd want to play a game that's intentionally made for an adult audience to have sex scenes and not want to see them: i.e. the monogamous route. I can understand wanting the choice of which girls you want to sleep with, which is the route from the cafe... A monogamous route with no choice at all completely baffles me. As for "forced sex scenes" they're as forced as much as any other scene in the story as they serve a purpose to the story. Again, this isnt a open world where you chose 50 different outcomes, there's a story and your choices serve that story.

Anyway, I appreciate anyone who's played the game and gives feedback, positive or negative, if I take things to heart it's because I care about our VN. :)
 
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