Najsik

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Young Griff personally I think combat needs to be changed, especially some new skills since mc joined Isvar (changing to werewolf if possible or some other skills) same for companions, also combat became turbo easy, for egz when we fight Cnut he is stronger in his human form than werewolf... I litterally 1 hit him for 102 once he changed while he was human he was tougher (not to say he did 1 dmg to me as werewolf xD) or at least make difficulty level so that we can choose cuz combat atm feels like its just a waste of time (compared to early game where u at least needed to think especially against the guy that challenged mc to a fight on arena.
 

XxKazimShadexX

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How do you win against the Isvar Varkarl in the cave? Attempted do beat him... a few times... but I'm not able to win.
 

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basicly a old rpg with a bit of sex or so it seems, I had enough when (spoiler) after the lizardmen I was hemorrhaging life and I was like why bother. I can go play BG3.
 
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Saves with notes:
  1. Palace, you can choose to rape the slave girl or not.
  2. Cave, you can choose to not sleep with Sheva to go for a pure route with Awati or Evelyn later.
  3. Camp, you've slept with Sheva in this 1, but you can still go for other girls for pure route, but
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  4. Longhouse, you can choose to not trigger the lesbian scene.
  5. Circle, you can choose to fight fair & square without cheating.
  6. Full save, all scenes unlocked. Routes locked in: not rape the slave girl, Awati alive, throuple with Sheva & Evelyn.
Took a while, great game.
 

Young Griff

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Well there is a tag and also there is a scene between that beast and his owner that white haired women and some bl scene with the captain of ship and that girl companion
Beast scene has been removed in latest versions. And in the next patch, you'll be able to convince Sheva not to sleep with Rapto on the ship due to popular request (Though the scene will still be available to those who want it).
 

Young Griff

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Saves with notes:
  1. Palace, you can choose to rape the slave girl or not.
  2. Cave, you can choose to not sleep with Sheva to go for a pure route with Awati or Evelyn later.
  3. Camp, you've slept with Sheva in this 1, but you can still go for other girls for pure route, but
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  4. Longhouse, you can choose to not trigger the lesbian scene.
  5. Circle, you can choose to fight fair & square without cheating.
  6. Full save, all scenes unlocked. Routes locked in: not rape the slave girl, Awati alive, throuple with Sheva & Evelyn.
Took a while, great game.
Great breakdown and big props to you for experimenting around to see how things work (Like how the game was intended to be played :D)

I'll only add one thing for those curious about the Lesbian scene:
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Im very interested how shevas choice will be implemented. Will it be skill check or just normal option? Also what what kind of impact it will have on mc and shevas relationship?in my very controversial option it should push her to coruption path and deteroite a little realnshiop with mc.
 

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Great breakdown and big props to you for experimenting around to see how things work (Like how the game was intended to be played :D)

I'll only add one thing for those curious about the Lesbian scene:
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Btw there's a bug in the empty field before the lizardmen encounter, there's a section that you can pick up root, but it'll trigger the lizardmen fight even though you're not in the next section yet.

Speaking of lizardmen, from my experimentation with several saves. Seems like you really have to let Sheva's crew die here (if you chose to save Awati) to fully corrupt Evelyn. Kinda suck cuz the fight while challenging, is quite rewarding cuz of the lizardmen's swords drops, which are probably the best weapons in the game right now (poison + bleed = busted). Hopefully we get to the chance to fight them in the future to farm those swords.

Also, I did make a save before the circle fight. Will there be a reward for us in future updates if we manage to win without cheats? I'm preferring to the debuffs of course cuz I don't mind learning the defense skill from Evelyn.
 

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No offense, but what a bunch of pussies got pissed from Rapto getting some head. I don't think you need to change anything cuz narratively speaking, it wouldn't make sense. MC & her just met for like what? 5 minutes & his rizz level is already enough to talk no jutsu her down? That's just straight up plot armor.
Agreed very much, especially because the scene wasnt done in a gratiutous or 'ntrish' way, it just felt like reality. And reality sucks sometimes.
 

Young Griff

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No offense, but what a bunch of pussies got pissed from Rapto getting some head. I don't think you need to change anything cuz narratively speaking, it wouldn't make sense. MC & her just met for like what? 5 minutes & his rizz level is already enough to talk no jutsu her down? That's just straight up plot armor.
Lol I'm not the one you're gonna offend by saying that. I agree with you.

But this is the porn game business, where porn > plot. And it's been an interesting journey seeing just how sensitive people are about virtual dicks.

Full disclosure, only reason I'm finally buckling on this decision is because the game got review bombed on another site over this scene specifically, which permanently affects its visibility.

So, its sort of a lose-lose. I figured making it optional would be the least-lose.

Trust me. No one is more annoyed by this than me, and it has made me question future prospects after OLaP.
 

Young Griff

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Btw there's a bug in the empty field before the lizardmen encounter, there's a section that you can pick up root, but it'll trigger the lizardmen fight even though you're not in the next section yet.

Speaking of lizardmen, from my experimentation with several saves. Seems like you really have to let Sheva's crew die here (if you chose to save Awati) to fully corrupt Evelyn. Kinda suck cuz the fight while challenging, is quite rewarding cuz of the lizardmen's swords drops, which are probably the best weapons in the game right now (poison + bleed = busted). Hopefully we get to the chance to fight them in the future to farm those swords.

Also, I did make a save before the circle fight. Will there be a reward for us in future updates if we manage to win without cheats? I'm preferring to the debuffs of course cuz I don't mind learning the defense skill from Evelyn.
The lizardmen bug has been reported and will be fixed in the next version.

As for Evelyn corruption, you need to make about three major corruption decisions to get Evelyn to turn, or two major corruption decisions and one minor corruption dialogue in camp. So, you can mix and match these how you want (Praying with Evelyn is the only action that lowers her corruption as well, so that might affect things too). Either way, you can corrupt her while still fighting the lizardbois (For example, kill that surrendering slave, then fuck Sheva twice).

As for a reward for fighting Cnut honorably, probably not. Those are moreso there just to make the fight a bit easier, for certain character builds, as well as for role-play. The player gets away with that one. But hey, doing the right thing is its own reward, as they say!
 

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(For example, kill that surrendering slave, then fuck Sheva twice).
Well, that is an option. But Awati’s gonna die from that decision.

And thanks for clarify the honourable fight with Cnut cuz I just wanna make sure I’m not missing any important rewards. If fighting him fair & square gonna get me nothing in returns, then it’s not worth it. I’m like Sheva fr, who cares about fair fight? Cheat shamelessly is the way lol.
 
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Young Griff

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Is it itchio?

Jesus, folks on there are so sensitive.
Correct.

Itch.io is kind of the worst as of late. Besides their staff not responding to my emails about needing more space, their review set-up is dogshit. You don't have to even download a title to leave a review, which is bizarre for a non-pirating site.

But what I really hate is that as a possible customer, I can't even LOOK AT THE REVIEWS OF A GAME. All you get to see is the overall rating which, frankly, doesn't tell me a goddamn thing beyond "oh, this game is popular". Its also shit from a creator stand point because this means players can't see why negative reviews are negative (like people butthurt over not-NTR). All they see is an overall rating, so they'll assume the game is just bad.

And what's Itch.io's response? "Incite players to leave more positive reviews!"

Fuckin hell, man
 

anonym0u5

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Agreed very much, especially because the scene wasnt done in a gratiutous or 'ntrish' way, it just felt like reality. And reality sucks sometimes.
Yea, also it’s kinda pointless to change it cuz after you & Sheva return to camp from the scout quest. She’ll be sleeping in Rapto’s tent anyways.

So for anyone that considered her being with Rapto is ntr, you’re kidding yourself if you think convincing her to not give Rapto a head would do anything lol.

Also, shouldn’t this lead to some more changes in the script? Cuz Rapto kinda has feelings for Sheva, but only AFTER he got that bj. If she didn’t give any, why should Rapto care for her now?
 
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