Lautheron

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I will be honest. I lean more on the "Not MC dick = NTR" side of the tracks in this debate. If a woman was never available or intended to be available to the MC then it's fine, but forced/unavoaidable scenes (even if skippable) are a pass to me. However, the review bombing and harassment is unacceptable and petty, especially over a game that was never financially backed by almost all of the crowd.

I tried this game out, liked the story and mechanics, didn't like the bit I considered NTR but played the build to that point. It was a finely crafted game and I feel bad for fans who can stomach things that I just am not a fan of because the game was great.

One thing I think a lot of the "No (MC) NTR EVER (Netorase is fine to most I think....)" mobs forget. When you drive out a talented dev and make them quit. Who's to say their next game may have not been even better and free of NTR?

I raised a bit too vocal opinion of mine of his direction before, not on fetishes but plot points. The reason i did that was because i believe dev is a talented writer with a real good potential and i like the sound of my own voice.
 
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Ntrsugar

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Also will this game really end in 2024 ? I don't see many builds in Changelogs.
Hopefully there will be enough content in this .
All the best to the Dev and Hopefully this reaches it's conclusion and finishes.
 
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ASLPro3D

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Also will this game really end in 2024 ? I don't see many builds in Changelogs.
Hopefully there will be enough content in this .
All the best to the Dev and Hopefully this reaches it's conclusion and finishes.
As of right now, it looks like the creator gave up due to some butthurt, anti-NTR people review bombing and harassing Griff, so it now appears that he isn't doing this or any other games.

Which sucks.
 
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Ntrsugar

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As of right now, it looks like the creator gave up due to some butthurt, anti-NTR people review bombing and harassing Griff, so it now appears that he isn't doing this or any other games.

Which sucks.
Fuk :(
I don't like ntr myself, but why harass someone.
Hopefully he continues and ignore the haters.
 

ASLPro3D

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Fuk :(
I don't like ntr myself, but why harass someone.
Hopefully he continues and ignore the haters.
My guess is some people seem to feel that they are entitled or something.

But, yeah, my hope is that he will eventually return and produce once again... he's talented and a good writer, it would be a shame that we were deprived of that gift of his because of some douche bags.
 

Dvnasty

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damn, no wonder it been ages since i saw an update... people really need to stop harassing dev about harem/incest/virgin/ntr genre.. u either enjoy the story or leave it alone, why even bother to watching/playing something if u dont like it just to trash talk about it. Too few good rpg maker game in the community.. someone trash is someone's treasure, does making a dev quit the project made u proud? what do u even gain? just to boost ur own twisted ego?
 

duiguinho6798

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Griff is a very talented writer, and the possibilities of choices within OLAP are incredible. I hope he returns, he is a huge diamond in the world of Nsfw games, with some of the best writing on the site.
 

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As of right now, it looks like the creator gave up due to some butthurt, anti-NTR people review bombing and harassing Griff, so it now appears that he isn't doing this or any other games.

Which sucks.
If that is true then his skin is far too thin for this industry, should slap abandoned tag on this and move on to something else.
Something other than games. :cool::coffee:
 

KINGHIPPO

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I just finished playing Of Lust and Pride 0.55 and I really enjoyed it. After reading the comments here, I am very disappointed this game ended so quickly, I'm not into all that NTR stuff but I can easily move past it. FUCKKKK now I won't know if the MC will ever have a ending with the beautiful Evelyn!!
 
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6ambino

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Dev's master plan has been the best from the start. He should go back to the roots. Purging Patreon was a good move.
Itch io has a disable rating feature for a reason, many other creative works here have it disabled.
 

KINGHIPPO

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Dev's master plan has been the best from the start. He should go back to the roots. Purging Patreon was a good move.
Itch io has a disable rating feature for a reason, many other creative works here have it disabled.
Am a patreon on Patreon not sure how the ratings stuff go on it but I hope the developer of this game will come back and finish the project. As others already stated, just ignore the haters, NTR is so easy to just ignore and move on.
 

6ambino

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Am a patreon on Patreon not sure how the ratings stuff go on it but I hope the developer of this game will come back and finish the project. As others already stated, just ignore the haters, NTR is so easy to just ignore and move on.
I meant that dev should stop caring about outside influence and create what he wants. Patreon, itch or any other platform shouldn't dictate plot direction.
NTR is just a plot device, and getting a hate feedback could mean it does its job properly.
 

KINGHIPPO

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I meant that dev should stop caring about outside influence and create what he wants. Patreon, itch or any other platform shouldn't dictate plot direction.
NTR is just a plot device, and getting a hate feedback could mean it does its job properly.
I agree, I don't dislike NTR at all if it fits the plot especially. The best thing about these games is the Creator should always decide the direction of the game the characters. The feedback from fans is nice but ultimately it should be up to the Creator.
 
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bigdaddymaks

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If the developer originally planned the NTR, and it is made competently, not as a Japanese NTR, and fits the plot of the game, thought out, so that there was motivation to fight for this or that girl, that you know if you make a wrong step, wait for the consequences, it's cool, but not everyone does so.
 

Redknight178

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Huge bummer, I really liked the direction this game took. Writing was really god. I hope dev will recover from this. Dealing with toxic crowd online could be painful, but allowing them to stop your creative pursuits is much worse.

Griff, if you are reading this: please, come back! We want to see your game, with all amount of NTR it should contain per your artistic vision!
:love:
 

BlasKyau

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I will be honest. I lean more on the "Not MC dick = NTR" side of the tracks in this debate. If a woman was never available or intended to be available to the MC then it's fine, but forced/unavoaidable scenes (even if skippable) are a pass to me. However, the review bombing and harassment is unacceptable and petty, especially over a game that was never financially backed by almost all of the crowd.

I tried this game out, liked the story and mechanics, didn't like the bit I considered NTR but played the build to that point. It was a finely crafted game and I feel bad for fans who can stomach things that I just am not a fan of because the game was great.

One thing I think a lot of the "No (MC) NTR EVER (Netorase is fine to most I think....)" mobs forget. When you drive out a talented dev and make them quit. Who's to say their next game may have not been even better and free of NTR?
Actually it was enough that Shiva or Sheva (I don't remember what is her name) was an optional LI, at least in my opinion. I never found out if she was.

If the developer originally planned the NTR, and it is made competently, not as a Japanese NTR, and fits the plot of the game, thought out, so that there was motivation to fight for this or that girl, that you know if you make a wrong step, wait for the consequences, it's cool, but not everyone does so.
I would only play the type of game that you indicate if there was a walkthrough, hint system, instructions or whatever that would allow me in a very simple way to avoid the entire NTR.
 
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