VN Ren'Py Office Perks [v0.0.7p] [Amomynous Games]

[ExhibitGames]

wow can you explain to me the good side of female protags? i avoided it since day 1 cuz i always felt weird about it

Well it is really just because I like female exhibitionism a lot. It is by far my favorite "kink". I like games that let me "control"
the how and when a girl exhibits herself. Honestly though those games are few and far between...it usually happens through blackmail or is forced or through a corruption dynamic that makes the girl too submissive and weak. I have had the pleasure to have relationships IRL where the girl was very open and daring to explore it with me and 100% of the time they found it extremely erotic and in some cases they continue to this day exhibiting.
So to answer your question I prefer how some female protag. games handle exhibitionism versus male protag. games.

 

[NebulousShooter]

we do not want her entire history we just want her to be up front that she's seeing someone

so we could be like okay no thank you

but hey if things don't work out with the other person and you're not seeing anybody give us a call

and we wish her all the best

That's what happened to me, I did the monogamous game with Jenni only to find out that she's fucking Grace. No thanks. If I do something I expect the other person to do the same.
I would have preferred if she had warned me earlier so I wouldn't have started with her.

I think the issue is coming from the conflict between two things, it being a rare thing that people in non serious relationships want monogamy, and that you expect them to know and reveal that information right away. That ends up being more of a you problem, though perhaps the dev can put in an early option for you so the MC says they only date sequentially, and only want to date people who do that as well.

I believe the norm in dating circles is to ignore the idea of your dates going on other dates until you know if things will likely become more serious, and then starting to have deeper conversations about the issue. It would be exhausting and off-putting to jump through those hoops before you know if there's a spark or other layers of compatibility.

But, I do fully support there being the option to make that clear in the game, if the Dev has the time, energy, and inclination for it.

If not the MC(if its important for the story), at least the player has to know before the first romantic interaction/start of her route. Like that the fault for anything happening in that route is on the player and not the dev. Like its the case with the prostitutes in Being a DIK, you don't find out 5 episodes in about their line of work, you find out before doing anything with them.

Its the devs insistence to Rian Johnson the player that always blows up in their faces and fucks with the players that go in the game blind for only one LI. This coupled with not giving the players the option to drop them the moment the reveal happens is the problem. The forcing the MC to find it hot, or being ok with it makes me break keyboards and I say that as someone that loves lesbians, I just happen to love being respectful of players time and offering player choices more.

I understand that if you like non-serious relationships, it's not a problem at all, but not everyone likes that kind of relationship. If I'm meeting someone I might be interested in, I don't fuck anyone behind her back.
For me it's not a problem that they do things with each other. It's the lack of information. When they go out that night the choices you have are at the beginning of the night, before you know anything. (During the night you might get to intuit that they are more than friends, and that they know each other more than well) And you no longer have the option to cancel the blowjob with Jenny.
An example of how to do it is Bare Witness, first you see what's there and then you decide. That way you avoid unpleasant surprises

Yes, Bare Witness is the perfect example of how to do it, first you find out, then you decide if you are ok and want to pursue the girls.

 

[Hungover00]

If not the MC(if its important for the story), at least the player has to know before the first romantic interaction/start of her route. Like that the fault for anything happening in that route is on the player and not the dev. Like its the case with the prostitutes in Being a DIK, you don't find out 5 episodes in about their line of work, you find out before doing anything with them.

Its the devs insistence to Rian Johnson the player that always blows up in their faces and fucks with the players that go in the game blind for only one LI. This coupled with not giving the players the option to drop them the moment the reveal happens is the problem. The forcing the MC to find it hot, or being ok with it makes me break keyboards and I say that as someone that loves lesbians, I just happen to love being respectful of players time and offering player choices more.

Yes, Bare Witness is the perfect example of how to do it, first you find out, then you decide if you are ok and want to pursue the girls.

Isn't this already fixed?

 

[NebulousShooter]

In my view, we are still very early in the game, so finding out about these things at this point is appropriate. I'm not going to have Jenny blurt out on the first or second day that she and her friend used to be FWB's back in the day, because that would be super weird and it doesn't make any sense to disclose this rather personal detail so early.

Like I said its this insistence to keep everything as a surprise for later that it will cause you the same Jenny/Grace problem over and over. If you feel its not appropriate for her to tell upfront and want to keep the MC in the dark, thats fine, have a minor scene, not from the MC's pov, where the girls mention it to each other and then give the MC female intuition to nope out of the route, he can just say he isn't feeling it. I just used this as an example, but this can apply to every other unsavory aspect about LI.

Having relationship type twists in AVNs does not work. Many have tried and you will always anger players. Keep your twists for the actual story.

Isn't this already fixed?

Yes, its more about other future stuff that the dev doesn't want the MC to be privy to, how if its important for the story it should be only the MC and not the player that doesn't know about these things before going for a LI and honestly its about so many devs doing the same mistakes over and over. At least he is willing to engage with criticism and reevaluate, which is rare, imagine same situations only the devs fight tooth and nails to avoid the addition of tags, as if the tag is the important bit and not what narrative purpose his scenes have in the story.

 

[Rockero_69]

Amomynous Games
After reading several comments and opinions about the game and the LIs and the possible partial Harem, which the DEV named, a key question comes to me in light of all this, the partial Harem can be all the other LIs except for Jenny and Grace, so they They can continue with their lesbian shit and thus avoid disappointment and betrayal or rather lack of communication and hiding things.

 

[Sngo]

Had see some screenshots in discord about this game and liked the renders, checked here and had this game on ignore but don't remember fully well why.
Already had see it only has partial harem so it should be one of the reason but can't remember the others.
Does it have NTR or disguised NTR trough some loop hole ? Many lesbians and bi girls? Camwhores? Female protagonist? Usually these are the major reasons to put games instantly on ignore.
Ty for the help.

 

[Beast Within]

Isn't this already fixed?

not really. they fucked in the past because for some reason they couldnt just be BFFs or close like sisters. they had to scissor cause you know, plot.

Had see some screenshots in discord about this game and liked the renders, checked here and had this game on ignore but don't remember fully well why.
Already had see it only has partial harem so it should be one of the reason but can't remember the others.
Does it have NTR or disguised NTR trough some loop hole ? Many lesbians and bi girls? Camwhores? Female protagonist? Usually these are the major reasons to put games instantly on ignore.
Ty for the help.

two lis were lesbians in the past. no sorry. "friends with benefits". hawt shtuff!

 

[The ArcKnight]

Or maybe the Dev had Jenny and Grace be FWB in the past because he (like me) find the idea hot?

I don't know what to tell people here.
I find the idea of Grace and Jenny throuple extremely appealing, especially if they love each other as much as they love the MC. I have heard people say they were mad be cause you don't find that out until later but it happened in the character's past, that isnt going to come out at first meeting, and it seems you can either encourage or discourage it in the current. So if the idea of girls kissing is a boner killer for you, just don't encourage it? Again, either it's a deal killer or it's not.

To Amomynous Games , I say keep going with the harem storyline. I am absolutely here for it and can't wait for the weekend party with all the love interests! It's going to be great or a giant clusterfuck, either way, should be entertaining as fuck!

 

[Beast Within]

I wonder how people would react if in a female protagonist game, two of the male LIs, sucked its others cocks in the past, because they were having "a phase". not only that, but they love eachother as much as they love the FMC. and then they have a throuple.
HAWT innit?

if the only way to have a possible throuple between two girls and a guy, is for the girls to be lesbian/bi in the past, future or present, then the idea pool you have is limited to one way. as if them being straight, somehow, forbids the possibility.

if the ratio like to dislike of them being intimate in all time frames, leans towards the dislike heavily, just because one ( or two or three or ten) person likes being the third weel in a lesbian relationship, sorry, past lesbian relationship that is rekindled, then it is up to the creator to deside if he wants to please the minority or the majority.



people are tired of this trope. period. yeah some here and there may like it, cool for them. if they want to encourage them be lesbians again, good for them. at leaste THERE, there will be option to chose if you want to be "third weel" or "hands off eachother".
but having them ALREADY, done that, is for most people UNAPPEALING.

Dear DEV, I will not be one of those people who offer zero advise and tell you to "do what you want with the game cause its yours"
if them being in a possible ( completely avoidable) throuple, is the only reason for them having fucked eachother in the past, I can safely say, that you can remove it, make them like the bestest of sisterly level friends, who love THE MC so much that they are willing to share.
it really serves NO other purpose and the feedback you got, points to the direction of removal.

Granted, some of the posters where "here and there" with the "I dont mind if they fucked in the past, but I will avoid them as possible lis because I dont care about lesbian and I actually DO mind but I wont outright say it because -reasons-)


I have this game ignored which makes me wonder why I still get notifications.

Do your thing dear dev. as long as you are good in your health, everything else can be solved.


Edit: just to avoid anyone thinking that my arguments are personal attacks. I view every interaction with people here, as if my and my best buddy argue about different sports teams. we shout, we call eachother name, we shout and swear, but at the end of the day we are best friends who just watch something we like. sports. or in this case games. so do not take anything I say personally.
best of health to all.

 

[Skylaroo]

I have heard people say they were mad be cause you don't find that out until later

One thing I learn from this place is that apparently there are people who are VERY strict with their porn game requirement. They will literally get very upset if the game is not 100% strictly following their preference. I don't get it. I just play for fun.

 

[Bill Temple]

people are tired of this trope. period. yeah some here and there may like it, cool for them.

but having them ALREADY, done that, is for most people UNAPPEALING.

Granted, some of the posters where "here and there" with the "I dont mind if they fucked in the past, but I will avoid them as possible lis because I dont care about lesbian and I actually DO mind but I wont outright say it because -reasons-)

You've apparently done a lot of market research on this topic. I'd be interested to see the polling data and how you processed it to arrive at your conclusions. Understand that opinions shared in online forums tend to be more polarized than the average views held. People less often speak up about things they aren't passionate about, so vocal minorities can more easily wag the dog than ever before.

The TLDR is I didn't mind the lesbian past/recent-past angle in this game. It seemed fine to me, and I don't understand why there's so much friction on this point.



I'm one who has gotten more than a few facepalms for comments in some threads where I unpopularly complained when an MC was cheated on via girl-on-girl action. The vocal view on those threads was that lesbian cheating isn't cheating. I'm also one who's not all that excited by watching girls together. It adds spice to a three-way, and some of my favorite memories are just that, but just sitting there when I could be contributing to the pleasure they're feeling is awkward for me.

Now that I've established that I'm not in the "All women are bisexual princesses" camp, past relationships are past relationships. Who the fuck cares? She's clearly into MC now. I'm not gonna get worked up or reject a woman because she's still friends with a girl she used to go down on. Hell even if she still does it, I don't care when we're in the very casual phase of the relationship, even more so when MC is smashing everything moving. When I feel like the relationship is getting serious, if she's still messing around with other people, then I'd carefully evaluate the choice to take the next step in the relationship, because it would appear we're not on the same page.

From what I read, I thought the sapphic angle was well handled and written well. The relationships are still in the casual, getting to know each other, risk-free trial stage, so even if someone does fear those darned lesbians, they can still end it with her with no sweat or tell her that you'd rather she quit her box munching ways while you two figure out if you're gonna get serious.

Relax guys! It's just a game.

I have this game ignored which makes me wonder why I still get notifications.

Even if you ignore a thread, you'll still get notifications for replies, quotes, and reactions to your posts in that thread if you have the option below set. I don't know how you tell F95 that you want to ignore yourself after the fact, sorry.

 

[Beast Within]

You've apparently done a lot of market research on this topic. I'd be interested to see the polling data and how you processed it to arrive at your conclusions.

just do a run over through forums. I am sure you have. the most common questions when it comes to avoidable content, is about ntr and lesbians. I mean, the reacttion in this forum alone should be an indicator as to what people think.
I hope this answers your hopefully honest and not sarcastic question.

The TLDR is I didn't mind the lesbian past/recent-past angle in this game. It seemed fine to me, and I don't understand why there's so much friction on this point.

you may not mind, but too many did. understanding it is hard because it is all about preferances and we all have different. for example I do not understand ntr and how one can enjoy it. what I like and what you like is not necessarily identical
but if we want to understand the WHY, then we would need to sit down and talk I guess. at least that is my take on it.

I'm one who has gotten more than a few facepalms for comments in some threads where I unpopularly complained when an MC was cheated on via girl-on-girl action. The vocal view on those threads was that lesbian cheating isn't cheating.

facepalms dont bother me, because ( I believe) there is not emoticon that could confer disagreement. at least most of the time. if there was another way to show that I dissagree, I would use it instead of the facepalm 100%. not to say there are not trolls living among us ofcourse.
girl to girl is cheating if the mc does not concent to it. the problem here is that many people, would not agree with the mc.
example, and I hope I am able to properly pass my thought, the mc is shown to think that having his girl suck a dick through a gloryhole is hot, but the player doesnt. same with girl to girl. the mc might be shown to be ok with the ladies sleeping behind his back, but the player isnt. I hope I make sense.

so even if someone does fear those darned lesbians,

none is afraid of the lesbians. they are just bored of them being shoehorned everywhere. aas I said, just roam around the forums. all the data you need is there. thats the gist of it.
besides as I said before. them being lesbians in the past offers zero to the story. the excuse that itt will help throuple is old because you can have it with them being straight.

It adds spice to a three-way, and some of my favorite memories are just that, but just sitting there when I could be contributing to the pleasure they're feeling is awkward for me.

no it really doesnt. i got up and left last time that happened to me. I am not into watching gay porn either with men or with women and I would certainly would not take part in it.
you will often see a certain excuse. "you cant expect the girls to just sit there waitting their turns". yes you can. the same way in a gangbang you dont see the guys sucking eachothers shlongs just because they cant waitt their turn.

Relax guys! It's just a game.

we are cool no worries. it is good to have argumentts in a dev's forum. eitther heated or polite, devs need this to see how the game fares. I do not see it as a bad thing per se as long as it does not devolve in threats and pointed personal attacks. thats just how I see it though.

Even if you ignore a thread, you'll still get notifications for replies, quotes, and reactions to your posts in that thread if you have the option below set. I don't know how you tell F95 that you want to ignore yourself after the fact, sorry.

honestly I never even noticed that. thaank you for pointing this out. for some reason it was unignored so perhaaps I double clicked or something or didnt pay attention. I am sure you noticed but my keyboard has a mind of its own
I will leave it unignored for now, since I enjoy tha banter

stay strong

 

[Skylaroo]

I mean, the reacttion in this forum alone should be an indicator as to what people think.

I have to disagree on this. You see more people objecting because there is a reason for them to say that they object to something. For those who do not object, they have no reason to loudly say that they don't mind. Thus, relying only on reaction in this forum is not an accurate indicator of what people actually think.

none is afraid of the lesbians. they are just bored of them being shoehorned everywhere.

What I wonder is more why is it such a big deal? It's literally 2 girls out of plenty in the game. Why is it enough to define the game for you to ignore everything else in the game? It seems weird to say that you're bored of lesbianism in a game, but the reaction feels far more dramatic than just being bored.

besides as I said before. them being lesbians in the past offers zero to the story. the excuse that itt will help throuple is old because you can have it with them being straight.

Why does it offer zero to the story? Being lesbians is literally a part of their character and therefore a reason as to why they'd be involved in sexual act with each other in the future. I understand that you don't enjoy lesbian sex scenes, but that doesn't mean that it offers zero to the story. It just means that you don't enjoy a certain aspect of the game.

you will often see a certain excuse. "you cant expect the girls to just sit there waitting their turns". yes you can. the same way in a gangbang you dont see the guys sucking eachothers shlongs just because they cant waitt their turn.

I also have to disagree on this. IMO, this is a bad example because you're ignoring the context that the characters are bisexuals. If everyone involved in gangbang porn are bisexuals, then yeah you'd expect to see the guys sucking each other's dicks too.

 

[Bill Temple]

I have to disagree on this. You see more people objecting because there is a reason for them to say that they object to something. For those who do not object, they have no reason to loudly say that they don't mind. Thus, relying only on reaction in this forum is not an accurate indicator of what people actually think.


What I wonder is more why is it such a big deal? It's literally 2 girls out of plenty in the game. Why is it enough to define the game for you to ignore everything else in the game? It seems weird to say that you're bored of lesbianism in a game, but the reaction feels far more dramatic than just being bored.


Why does it offer zero to the story? Being lesbians is literally a part of their character and therefore a reason as to why they'd be involved in sexual act with each other in the future. I understand that you don't enjoy lesbian sex scenes, but that doesn't mean that it offers zero to the story. It just means that you don't enjoy a certain aspect of the game.


I also have to disagree on this. IMO, this is a bad example because you're ignoring the context that the characters are bisexuals. If everyone involved in gangbang porn are bisexuals, then yeah you'd expect to see the guys sucking each other's dicks too.

Agree. 100%

 

[The ArcKnight]

Seriously, the story around Jen and Grace's past relationship and deep friendship adds to the story, not detracting from it. It's super disingenuous to say the MC is the 3rd wheel of their relationship, they are friends and only were fwb's ages ago. Also, have you SEEN the way Jennifer looks at the MC? Seriously, those eyes.... <3 If you got the impression for the story/dialogue that MC was the third wheel just because they were fwb in the past, I don't know what to tell you. Also, as others have said before me, trying to con the dev into everyone being against Jen x Grace is just false, theirs's a lot of nuance your missing in other's opinions, and trying to claim everyone feels this way is just plain not correct. Some people do, some people don't, most I'm sure don't care enough to comment.

This is about personal kink preference, plain and simple. The dev obviously finds girls playing with girls hot and so included it in his game. I find it also adds depth and nuance to Jen and Grace's relationship. If you don't like girl's being bi and can't have your harem members touching, then do as you have said and just ignore the thread and move on. I'm sure there are lots of harem stories more suited to your tastes.

Me on the other hand, I really am liking the story so far, the way Jennifer has come to rely on the MC in such a short time that she's already willing to jump ship with him from their current company and he has to be the voice of reason makes me think Jenn is falling for our man already, even if she hasn't realized it yet. She also doesn't seem to mind our dalliances with other women from the coffee date we had this update. It gets me super hyped to see how the weekend hangout is going to turn out.

 

[Beast Within]

Spoiler: long read. propably my last one cause I clatter the thread

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[The ArcKnight]

Cool story bro.


So anyways, who do we suspect will figure out the MC is sleeping with over half the guest list of the party first?

 

[Bill Temple]

Cool story bro.


So anyways, who do we suspect will figure out the MC is sleeping with over half the guest list of the party first?

Grace seems like a perceptive person, but Jenny already figured out about Maria. I'd place my wager on either or both of them.

 

[Scubatropin]

Wow, I had my review taken down. You tell me whether this isn't "on topic" - they said that I didn't write anything about the game.

This game has potential (as all games do) - the art work is pretty good, the grammar is good and the actual dialogue isn't too insulting. The one thing that NEEDS to happen here is getting rid of the "buddy" Jackson. In my opinion, "jackson" completely ruins the ambience and is just downright annoying. You can make it another girl, or if your heart is set on another guy (loathe) then make it some older guy that isn't the same age. I could see myself supporting the development, but I can't deal with even another frame, because quite honestly, I want to punch my monitor through the window.

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

Wow, I had my review taken down. You tell me whether this isn't "on topic" - they said that I didn't write anything about the game.

This game has potential (as all games do) - the art work is pretty good, the grammar is good and the actual dialogue isn't too insulting. The one thing that NEEDS to happen here is getting rid of the "buddy" Jackson. In my opinion, "jackson" completely ruins the ambience and is just downright annoying. You can make it another girl, or if your heart is set on another guy (loathe) then make it some older guy that isn't the same age. I could see myself supporting the development, but I can't deal with even another frame, because quite honestly, I want to punch my monitor through the window.

If you knew how many reviews have canceled me just for telling the truth about the game, but when the criticism doesn't like it or maybe it's the one that strikes the truth it just happens to be censored, hahahaha it's called freedom of expression