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eddie987

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That just shows that I was right to be cautious about the game from the start and I am glad I didn't play it yet.
I'd still suggest to give it a try and make up your own mind. I'm just really tired of certain tropes I keep seeing again and again in those games, but they might not bother you that much. It's not a bad game.
 
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I'd still suggest to give it a try and make up your own mind. I'm just really tired of certain tropes I keep seeing again and again in those games, but they might not bother you that much. It's not a bad game.
It's not likely that I try it. I didn't like the female/multiple protagonists from the start and I'm also not the biggest fan of lesbian scenes even in harem games. To give two examples for my dislike of it I stopped playing A Knights Tale as soon as the wooden thing got action before the MC and in A Clever Name, I went back and excluded a certain character from the harem after that character got something before the MC.
 

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It's not likely that I try it. I didn't like the female/multiple protagonists from the start and I'm also not the biggest fan of lesbian scenes even in harem games. To give two examples for my dislike of it I stopped playing A Knights Tale as soon as the wooden thing got action before the MC and in A Clever Name, I went back and excluded a certain character from the harem after that character got something before the MC.
Yeah, same here with the first game you mentioned. I haven't played the second one yet, so I don't really know anything about it. Well, if you want the MC to be the first getting some "action", that doesn't look likely with Laura (the one with the pigtails), but he'll probably be more lucky with Lisa, because she's not Daisy's biggest fan. Of course even with her, Daisy was the one to get a... "handful", even accidently, so I won't rule anything out.
 

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Whenever I try and continue from a save I get sent back to the tile screen.

Edit:Ok seems it's sending me back to title screen when it should be going to act 5 from 4. Unless I start a new game.
 
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Whenever I try and continue from a save I get sent back to the tile screen.

Edit:Ok seems it's sending me back to title screen when it should be going to act 5 from 4.
Please remember saves from before v4.1 will not work.
 

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I understand all of the arguments presented here. However, I would ask that disappointments, expectations, personal tastes and wishes do not escalate any further. Please do not forget that we, whether Patreons or not, are only guests of the developer's fantasy. It is the developer who writes his/her story, not us. So please a little more respect here.

And there is one crucial detail that many seem to have completely lost sight of: the game is tagged MULTI protagonist. Both Daisy and Andy are the MC. And right now, Daisy is the main MC. I don't know if the whole game will stay that way. But it is currently the case: Daisy is the real main MC.

While Daisy seems quite dominant, quite nymphomaniac at that, Andy seems to be more like James from "American Pie". And he's pretty shocked because he doesn't recognize his fiancée, who reveals a side of herself in the game that he probably didn't know before. Of course he has to deal with it first. And that takes time. I don't know how things will go on naturally in the game either. But at the moment it is like that.

So, no MC is by no means pushed to the corner here. This game is a little different from what we are used to
 
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And there is one crucial detail that many seem to have completely lost sight of: the game is tagged MULTI protagonist. Both Daisy and Andy are the MC. And right now, Daisy is the main MC. I don't know if the whole game will stay that way. But it is currently the case: Daisy is the real main MC.
That's false. I don't know how did you come up with that idea and by what metrics did you choose who's the "mainest main character" but i'm pretty confident that you're just wrong.

I always avoided any female protagonist games but something pushed me into trying this one despite the tags and during my playthrough i've never, not even for a second felt like it's a female protag kind of game. It all depends on your mindset.
If you're going to get into this game thinking it's a female protagonist game then it will probably feel that way. It all depends in who's shoes are you going to step in.

Now if you're making that point from a purely mechanical standpoint, like let's say the amount of control/choices you get to make as Female versus Male or maybe which character is featured in most renders overall then you can, but that does not prove anything really.


The main reason i tend to avoid Female protagonist games is because i believe that it's the opposite of a Male protagonist. So instead of a guy chasing bunch of different chicks you get a girl chasing lots of dicks which is something im simply not interested in.
So if you're anything like me and you're still ambivalent about giving this game a go because of the same reasons then you have nothing to fear, this game is nothing like that.
 

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That's false. I don't know how did you come up with that idea and by what metrics did you choose who's the "mainest main character" but i'm pretty confident that you're just wrong.

I always avoided any female protagonist games but something pushed me into trying this one despite the tags and during my playthrough i've never, not even for a second felt like it's a female protag kind of game. It all depends on your mindset.
If you're going to get into this game thinking it's a female protagonist game then it will probably feel that way. It all depends in who's shoes are you going to step in.

Now if you're making that point from a purely mechanical standpoint, like let's say the amount of control/choices you get to make as Female versus Male or maybe which character is featured in most renders overall then you can, but that does not prove anything really.


The main reason i tend to avoid Female protagonist games is because i believe that it's the opposite of a Male protagonist. So instead of a guy chasing bunch of different chicks you get a girl chasing lots of dicks which is something im simply not interested in.
So if you're anything like me and you're still ambivalent about giving this game a go because of the same reasons then you have nothing to fear, this game is nothing like that.
Well, i just come to the conclusion because i read the tags. And there it is clear: female portagonist, male protagonist, multiple protagonist. And depending on the game situation, we actually either slip into the role of Andy or Daisy. Maybe later in the role of the other, who knows. And the rest comes from the fact that Andy tends to stumble into all the situations that are strongly reminiscent of "American Pie". And it's almost always Daisy who makes something out of the situations. And our poor Andy can then see how he gets along with it. So I think it's more Daisy who has "the saying"

You are absolutely right, it's a question of the perspective. Let's not analyze it more and maybe get into an argument. I don't want that, neither do you. Just let us enjoy the game together. (y)
 
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Well, i just come to the conclusion because i read the tags. And there it is clear: female portagonist, male protagonist, multiple protagonist. And depending on the game situation, we actually either slip into the role of andy or Daisy. Maybe later in the role of the other, who knows. And the rest comes from the fact that andy tends to stumble into all the situations that are strongly reminiscent of "American Pie". And it's almost always daisy who makes something out of the situations. And our poor Andy can then see how he gets along with it. So I think it's more daisy who has "the saying"

You are absolutely right, it's a question of the perspective. Let's not analyze it more and maybe get into an argument. I don't want that, neither do you. Just let us enjoy the game together. (y)

Thank you! The game is not meant to create arguments nor do we condone them! I will tell you the team was surprised the game even showed up here! We did not initiate nor upload it here. We are thrilled f95 deemed it worthy as well.

Many thanks for all the feedback!

Robi
 
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eddie987

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I understand all of the arguments presented here. However, I would ask that disappointments, expectations, personal tastes and wishes do not escalate any further. Please do not forget that we, whether Patreons or not, are only guests of the developer's fantasy. It is the developer who writes his/her story, not us. So please a little more respect here.

And there is one crucial detail that many seem to have completely lost sight of: the game is tagged MULTI protagonist. Both Daisy and Andy are the MC. And right now, Daisy is the main MC. I don't know if the whole game will stay that way. But it is currently the case: Daisy is the real main MC.

While Daisy seems quite dominant, quite nymphomaniac at that, Andy seems to be more like James from "American Pie". And he's pretty shocked because he doesn't recognize his fiancée, who reveals a side of herself in the game that he probably didn't know before. Of course he has to deal with it first. And that takes time. I don't know how things will go on naturally in the game either. But at the moment it is like that.

So, no MC is by no means pushed to the corner here. This game is a little different from what we are used to
Again, it was my understanding that the lesbian content would be optional, and that's not something I made up, one of the devs said here that as far as he knows it will be optional and it will be based on our choices, so I hope you can understand my disappointment when I saw that was not really the case.

Now, if the game is intended to be a FMC game, then they should probably consider removing the male and multiple protagonist tags, the option of renaming Andy and the few choices he can make during the game. If it is a multiple protagonist game, I don't think it's so irrational to expect that you'll get an option on who's Daisy gonna grope or hit on for instance, when you get that option with Andy in the only instance he actually got to do something more that looking shocked because he saw a nipple.

Lastly, this is a thread dedicated in this game, so people will write what they liked or disliked about it. As long as the comments stay civil and in topic, everyone has the right to express whatever thoughts they might have. Again, the devs can do whatever they want, it's their game after all, but at the same time everyone has a right to express an opinion about it like you just did.
 

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Guys, I can understand there is a sexual attraction between Daisy and Sis. But, when it comes to actual lesbian sexual content, i think we will have a option to avoid those scenes. Yes, Harem can be non-lesbian too. It's just a pornhub logic that every MFF should contain lesbian action. But, it's not the rule. If those options are not given, then me, who is a fan of this game, will be the first to rant on this game and stop playing further. Because, dev already said lesbian will be optional.
 
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Draverik

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Well, i just come to the conclusion because i read the tags. And there it is clear: female portagonist, male protagonist, multiple protagonist. And depending on the game situation, we actually either slip into the role of Andy or Daisy. Maybe later in the role of the other, who knows. And the rest comes from the fact that Andy tends to stumble into all the situations that are strongly reminiscent of "American Pie". And it's almost always Daisy who makes something out of the situations. And our poor Andy can then see how he gets along with it. So I think it's more Daisy who has "the saying"

You are absolutely right, it's a question of the perspective. Let's not analyze it more and maybe get into an argument. I don't want that, neither do you. Just let us enjoy the game together. (y)
I wasn't trying to stir the pot or start any arguments or anything. It's just that there are some folks out there who are still on the fence with that one tag and they are seriously missing out on some good shit because it really isn't as bad as they might think.

Also i might've been tunnel visioning hard but i think that Daisy has our (as Male MC) best interest in mind. She's not scheming behind out back from her selfish reasons. So it's super easy to just consider her as an extension of our Male MC rather that a separate protagonist. I mean there are plenty of other games (too many even) where a sole Male MC is being inhabitated by some kind of a succubus who is in total control of pretty much everything from his motivations and actions to even people around him but it's always considered more like a conjoined opperation which is kinda what we're seeing here, no?
 

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Guys, I can understand there is a sexual attraction between Daisy and Sis. But, when it comes to actual lesbian sexual content, i think we will have a option to avoid those scenes. Yes, Harem can be non-lesbian too. It's just a pornhub logic that every MFF should contain lesbian action. But, it's not the rule. If those options are not given, then me, who is a fan of this game, will be the first to rant on this game and stop playing further. Because, dev already said lesbian will be optional.
I really don't want to drag this out any more, but so far the choices don't make any difference, so why should I expect that to change in the future? I chose that Daisy won't grope Laura in one scene and she does it anyway two scenes later, so my choice didn't really matter.

I'm sorry, but I don't have to see them scissoring before I consider what's going on unavoidable lesbian content. Laura is drooling all over Daisy's tits, Daisy can't keep her hands off her ass and while she knows about Laura's "fixation" she goes and hugs her topless! You can't tell me that's just innocent play between future sisters in law... We are reading their thoughts, we know it's not innocent for either of them and since it's not just their thoughts, but it already turned into something physical, it is unavoidable lesbian content. This might have been unintentional, so I'll probably give it one more update (though I don't have much hope), but the last one was heavily focused on Daisy flirting with Laura (and fondling both her and Lisa for some reason) while the MC is still completely clueless about what's going on behind his back or even right in front of him. Almost half of it was the two of them training together, while thinking how hot the other person is, and you saw Laura's reaction when the MC found her on top of Daisy...

Now, when I'm talking about lesbian content being optional, I'm not talking about threesomes, foursomes, whatever-somes, but anything that doesn't involve the MC. I'd definitely want to include Daisy (well, the I didn't really like "gropey" Daisy from this update, but up until the previous one, I really liked her) into everything. The thing is, there's a huge difference between pushing the MC into a certain direction with his family and then get involved herself and hitting on his sister behind his back even if she intends to include him later on. The end result might be the same, and although both of those are a little bit manipulative, in the first scenario she's doing it because she loves him and for whatever reasons, she thinks that's the best for him, while on the second one she might still love him, but what she's doing is mostly for her. The wingman is supposed to make you look good, not take the girl for a "test drive" before you get your turn.

The only thing that's sure is that Andy and Laura are definitely brother and sister. They are both acting like 15 year old boys when they see tits...
 

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I really don't want to drag this out any more, but so far the choices don't make any difference, so why should I expect that to change in the future? I chose that Daisy won't grope Laura in one scene and she does it anyway two scenes later, so my choice didn't really matter.

I'm sorry, but I don't have to see them scissoring before I consider what's going on unavoidable lesbian content. Laura is drooling all over Daisy's tits, Daisy can't keep her hands off her ass and while she knows about Laura's "fixation" she goes and hugs her topless! You can't tell me that's just innocent play between future sisters in law... We are reading their thoughts, we know it's not innocent for either of them and since it's not just their thoughts, but it already turned into something physical, it is unavoidable lesbian content. This might have been unintentional, so I'll probably give it one more update (though I don't have much hope), but the last one was heavily focused on Daisy flirting with Laura (and fondling both her and Lisa for some reason) while the MC is still completely clueless about what's going on behind his back or even right in front of him. Almost half of it was the two of them training together, while thinking how hot the other person is, and you saw Laura's reaction when the MC found her on top of Daisy...

Now, when I'm talking about lesbian content being optional, I'm not talking about threesomes, foursomes, whatever-somes, but anything that doesn't involve the MC. I'd definitely want to include Daisy (well, the I didn't really like "gropey" Daisy from this update, but up until the previous one, I really liked her) into everything. The thing is, there's a huge difference between pushing the MC into a certain direction with his family and then get involved herself and hitting on his sister behind his back even if she intends to include him later on. The end result might be the same, and although both of those are a little bit manipulative, in the first scenario she's doing it because she loves him and for whatever reasons, she thinks that's the best for him, while on the second one she might still love him, but what she's doing is mostly for her. The wingman is supposed to make you look good, not take the girl for a "test drive" before you get your turn.

The only thing that's sure is that Andy and Laura are definitely brother and sister. They are both acting like 15 year old boys when they see tits...
I mostly agree with you, but my patience levels are somewhat high for this game because of Mom character and still hoping that atleast furthur sexual content will be optional between daisy and other female characters especially with MC's sis and mom. But yeah, I will join your train for sure if my hopes will be wrong.
 
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Well, we don't really know anything yet. The only real sexual content that exists so far is between Andy and Daisy. Everything else is groping at best. And that's actually unavoidable, no matter how you choose. Whether it will stay that way in the future or not remains to be seen.

However, the game is still far too early in development to be able to make a final judgment. I've seen games that jumped as tigers and landed as bed rugs. And vice versa too. First thing usually happens mostly to those games who were supposed to get content with other men. But you all know what happens then: if a developer dares to even announce something like that, the "anti NTR shitstorm" usually starts. And at the end it will be cut out. Otherwise every fetish will be tolerated. But "other men content" seem to be a deadly sin here. And if you try something to fight against, you get at least 1 dozen facepalms. It happens to me almost every day. What a shame. But I've already got used to it. That's how it goes in this forum.

No matter now. Let's wait and see how the game develops here
 
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Well, i just come to the conclusion because i read the tags. And there it is clear: female portagonist, male protagonist, multiple protagonist. And depending on the game situation, we actually either slip into the role of Andy or Daisy. Maybe later in the role of the other, who knows. And the rest comes from the fact that Andy tends to stumble into all the situations that are strongly reminiscent of "American Pie". And it's almost always Daisy who makes something out of the situations. And our poor Andy can then see how he gets along with it. So I think it's more Daisy who has "the saying"

You are absolutely right, it's a question of the perspective. Let's not analyze it more and maybe get into an argument. I don't want that, neither do you. Just let us enjoy the game together. (y)
From what I've seen, everyone here has expressed their opinions in a very respectful way. There's been no name calling like I've seen on other threads. Everyone may not agree, but strong opinions are a good thing. I like reading opinions different from mine, and all the posts here have been civil.

I happen to enjoy lesbian content, others don't. My problem is the female protag perspective. Mainly, since I am a man, I immerse myself better from a male perspective. But also, the only female protag game I support financially is Jessica O'neil, who I am turning into a cheating slut with my choices. So I guess it's psychological with me. Since Daisy is so likable, I don't view her as a cheating slut and don't want to make those types of choices in the future for her.

Thus far, I enjoy the attraction and teasing between her and sis. I actually want Daisy to escalate the naughtiness, just as long as it doesn't develop into some affair behind Andy's back. I'm not trying to influence anyone. That's just my humble opinion as I try to decide whether or not to add Oopsy Daisy to my support list.
 

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From what I've seen, everyone here has expressed their opinions in a very respectful way. There's been no name calling like I've seen on other threads. Everyone may not agree, but strong opinions are a good thing. I like reading opinions different from mine, and all the posts here have been civil.

I happen to enjoy lesbian content, others don't. My problem is the female protag perspective. Mainly, since I am a man, I immerse myself better from a male perspective. But also, the only female protag game I support financially is Jessica O'neil, who I am turning into a cheating slut with my choices. So I guess it's psychological with me. Since Daisy is so likable, I don't view her as a cheating slut and don't want to make those types of choices in the future for her.

Thus far, I enjoy the attraction and teasing between her and sis. I actually want Daisy to escalate the naughtiness, just as long as it doesn't develop into some affair behind Andy's back. I'm not trying to influence anyone. That's just my humble opinion as I try to decide whether or not to add Oopsy Daisy to my support list.

Thank you for your kinds words dear sir! We are trying our best with it being our first time working as a team on this project.

We are also from different countries where the customs and cultures are different as well!
 
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Hey devs you keep doing what you want with this don't let anyone discourage you. If there is content they don't like they can find something else.
It seems to be that every time someone releases a new game a bunch of people will come on and try their very hardest to get the Developer to change the game to their preference, sticking to the same old vanilla storylines with the ultra safe endings, which are now becoming a but boring now.

Don't these people have any adventure in them at all? Are they afraid of change?

Why can't they just let the Developer tell their story the way that they had intended from the start?

They maybe taking a chance but at least let's see some originality for a change, and who know somewhere down the line this may turn into a great game :)

And i know most likely I'm going to get loads of facepalms from the usual bunch, but funny enough that type of thing just puts a smile on my face due to their puerile behavior.
 
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