VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.6.0] [JDOR]

[Rehwyn]

same ≠ similar.

You ASSUME the powers are exactly the same based off of snippets of evidence.
For instance Moonsongs wolf is male and white furred while MC's wolf is black furred and female.
In other words OBVIOUSLY not the same, but similar.
What OTHER DIFFERENCES are there?
We know that he can make his hands glow green and shoot green energy. Whether or not it has the same possibly devastating effects as Emeralds power is completely unknown. He made her TV drop from the wall, but that's it.
The clone appears to be the same ones as Kat can summon. Thing is it is completely unknown whether or not it behaves the same as hers, simply because she did not disclose most information about it. For instance is the clone completely dependent on Kat and her brain or does the clone have some level of independence? Meaning can she TELL her clone where to go or can she only SUGGEST where the clone should go.

The fact that some things are the same does not mean that everything is the same.

Not once have I said they're conclusively the exact same in all aspects. You're misrepresenting my statements.

And frankly, your own statements conflict. For something to be "completely unknown" it'd have to have absolutely no evidence to support it. But you included several pieces of evidence that the core function are at a minimum highly similar rather than wildly different in your response. Therefore, it's not completely unknown.

In either case, if we want to talk about speculation, there's far more evidence of core similarity than difference. Therefore the theory that the powers work fundamentally the same is much less speculative than that the powers work fundamentally different.

And again, none of this changes the fact that MC viewing Marina is not inconsistent with the evidence we've so far seen regarding how Evelyn's power work, which is what kicked off this whole discussion.

P.S. Regarding the wolves, from a different perspective they differ very little. Moonsong's wolf is the opposite sex of her. Therefore, the fact that MC's wolf is the opposite sex of him could be interpreted as similarity rather than difference.

 

[Brannon]

Not once have I said they're conclusively the exact same in all aspects. You're misrepresenting my statements.

And frankly, your own statements conflict. For something to be "completely unknown" it'd have to have absolutely no evidence to support it. But you included several pieces of evidence that the core function are at a minimum highly similar in your response. Therefore, it's not completely unknown.

In either case, if we want to talk about speculation, there's far more evidence of core similarity than difference. Therefore the theory that the powers work fundamentally the same is much less speculative than that the powers work fundamentally different.

And again, none of this changes the fact that MC viewing Marina is not inconsistent with the evidence we've so far seen regarding how Evelyn's power work.

P.S. Regarding the wolves, from a different perspective they differ very little. Moonsong's wolf is the opposite sex of her. Therefore, the fact that MC's wolf is the opposite sex of him could be interpreted as similarity rather than difference.

Okay, I'm giving up trying to make you think.

You apparently are unwilling and/or unable to engage your brain a little.

 

[duckydoodoo]

can we all just agree that the word speculate is fun to say out loud. and also start an off topic discussion about all the best places to speculate, and even better the things you think about while you speculate. in fact im speculating right now

 

[HornyyPussy]

can we all just agree that the word speculate is fun to say out loud. and also start an off topic discussion about all the best places to speculate, and even better the things you think about while you speculate. in fact im speculating right now

Very speculative post!

 

[e6mill]

can we all just agree that the word speculate is fun to say out loud. and also start an off topic discussion about all the best places to speculate, and even better the things you think about while you speculate. in fact im speculating right now

I need a new pair of spectacles - misplaced mine a year back during a tequila binge...

 

[Rehwyn]

I need a new pair of spectacles - misplaced mine a year back during a tequila binge...

Have you tried checking among the other shot glasses?



On topic, any speculations about what progress Amber might make next chapter (since she's going to have significant story presence)? I suspect it's still too early for her to completely control her power, but that they might make some progress that gives her a bit of hope. Assuming of course that next chapter is when she visits Moonsong to test it.

 

[Elduriel]

Have you tried checking among the other shot glasses?

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On topic, any speculations about what progress Amber might make next chapter (since she's going to have significant story presence)? I suspect it's still too early for her to completely control her power, but that they might make some progress that gives her a bit of hope. Assuming of course that next chapter is when she visits Moonsong to test it.

school week barely started, and we didn't have day skips so far, and I'd say an update covered what... one or max two days at most? So I don't think we'll see Amber with Moonsong just yet since they are meeting during the weekend. But we could also have a "couple days later" version, so who knows.

 

[Rehwyn]

school week barely started, and we didn't have day skips so far, and I'd say an update covered what... one or max two days at most? So I don't think we'll see Amber with Moonsong just yet since they are meeting during the weekend. But we could also have a "couple days later" version, so who knows.

Yeah, most updates so far have only been 1 day (I think there's only 1 exception at the moment where a chapter covered 2 days). I was thinking about that earlier and I believe we've just finished.. Tuesday? If things continue as 1 day per chapter, we'd definitely have a few to go. But it wouldn't surprise me if we skip a few schooldays in order to get closer to Lucia's party and vising Moonsong at the Sisterhood compound again (both of which are over the weekend). We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

 

[DevinHesi]

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[Darth Whisper]

all caught up with this game, finaly. but dangit i need more, can't get enough of it.

 

[Jace_Herondale]

all caught up with this game, finaly. but dangit i need more, can't get enough of it.

Same. I binged it a few days ago and I need more. It's easily in my top 2 right now

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Just a few of the renders released in Origin Story's 1st Anniversary celebration

 

[DevinHesi]

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Not all requests have to be saucy. My first ever non-lewd or nude request.

What are they talking about?

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[Mike Hunt TG]

I have a question. When the MC is talking to Anna Abrahams they mention The Assistant as a "film" she is working ion, and I recognize that all these "films" are really other VNs. However, the only VN I could find entitled The Assistant has the MC in the title role, not some hot submissive female. So the question is, is there a VN that plays out like that or was it made up for Origin Story alone?

 

[Rehwyn]

I have a question. When the MC is talking to Anna Abrahams they mention The Assistant as a "film" she is working ion, and I recognize that all these "films" are really other VNs. However, the only VN I could find entitled The Assistant has the MC in the title role, not some hot submissive female. So the question is, is there a VN that plays out like that or was it made up for Origin Story alone?

Remember that all these "films" are based on dreams some guy has. Some details might be slightly different based on what he remembers or the studio changes.

Anna also probably isn't the title role of the MC, but the female assistant.

 

[Elhemeer]

I have a question. When the MC is talking to Anna Abrahams they mention The Assistant as a "film" she is working ion, and I recognize that all these "films" are really other VNs. However, the only VN I could find entitled The Assistant has the MC in the title role, not some hot submissive female. So the question is, is there a VN that plays out like that or was it made up for Origin Story alone?

Remember that all these "films" are based on dreams some guy has. Some details might be slightly different based on what he remembers or the studio changes.

Anna also probably isn't the title role of the MC, but the female assistant.

Also, the dreamer doesn't necessarily see the world through the eyes of the game's MC. Also-also, the studio could decide to gender-bend the story after the dreamer submits it. Lots of possibilities there.

(But Rehwyn is probably right about Anna's role)

 

[Brannon]

I have a question. When the MC is talking to Anna Abrahams they mention The Assistant as a "film" she is working ion, and I recognize that all these "films" are really other VNs. However, the only VN I could find entitled The Assistant has the MC in the title role, not some hot submissive female. So the question is, is there a VN that plays out like that or was it made up for Origin Story alone?

Remember that all these "films" are based on dreams some guy has. Some details might be slightly different based on what he remembers or the studio changes.

Anna also probably isn't the title role of the MC, but the female assistant.

Also, the dreamer doesn't necessarily see the world through the eyes of the game's MC. Also-also, the studio could decide to gender-bend the story after the dreamer submits it. Lots of possibilities there.

(But Rehwyn is probably right about Anna's role)

And usually dreams are #1 very hard to target and #2 have a time limit of roughly 2 or 3 hours a night in the deepest phase of sleep. And that is the combined time btw, the single sections range from "a few seconds" up to "roughly 10 minutes". In "normal" human brains that means a person does not dream once but dozens of times a night. We only remember one of the dreams.
Since before the "scandal" hit he was seen as a more or less normally working dude it is ... let's say unlikely that he could vanish for 2 or 3 days at a time to hop into a coma or something like that.

Meaning he saw some things, but was "forced" to invent details he did not see.
Like a submissive slut assistant ...

 

[Elhemeer]

And usually dreams are #1 very hard to target and #2 have a time limit of roughly 2 or 3 hours a night in the deepest phase of sleep. And that is the combined time btw, the single sections range from "a few seconds" up to "roughly 10 minutes". In "normal" human brains that means a person does not dream once but dozens of times a night. We only remember one of the dreams.
Since before the "scandal" hit he was seen as a more or less normally working dude it is ... let's say unlikely that he could vanish for 2 or 3 days at a time to hop into a coma or something like that.

Meaning he saw some things, but was "forced" to invent details he did not see.
Like a submissive slut assistant ...

I got the impression that the dreamer that writes the movies sees someone's life play out ... just always someone from another universe. I may be remembering that wrong though.

 

[Brannon]

I got the impression that the dreamer that writes the movies sees someone's life play out ... just always someone from another universe. I may be remembering that wrong though.

The studio has dozens of movies thanks to that dreamer.
Meaning he visited multiple people over the time.
But as said it is not easy to direct dreams, his brain needed "to fill in the gaps" many times and that is why some details are plain wrong on those movies.
But since nobody else (to his knowledge) can see that parallel universe it is fine.

 

[Elhemeer]

The studio has dozens of movies thanks to that dreamer.
Meaning he visited multiple people over the time.
But as said it is not easy to direct dreams, his brain needed "to fill in the gaps" many times and that is why some details are plain wrong on those movies.
But since nobody else (to his knowledge) can see that parallel universe it is fine.

I feel like one of us is remembering the story wrong ... or we're both doing the same thing -- that is, giving our take on what we think is happening. But you seem to be taking it further than the game gives information about, unless I've completely forgot some in-game explanation.

I don't remember any kind of detail on how the dreamer's power works or how he writes the scripts. Just that he dreams about alternate realities with fascinating stories and he turns them into movies (that happen to closely match AVNs many people that play this game like). I don't remember how much he sees, how long it takes for him to publish a script, what the stories even are (other than the little we got about The Assistant). But it seems clear he's not seeing 1:1 timelines ... whether he sees an entire story overnight, over a week, over a month ... it'd have to take less time to see than actual time passing in the game's world. For all we know, he gets a full world dump every night and he has to spend his days sorting through the information to find the stories he makes (which would imply he doesn't forget much, if anything).

As for what details are wrong, have we got any details about any of the movies? If you're talking about the fact that the characters on the posters don't match the games they're from, that's 'cause the posters are of the actors playing the parts (something I found very disturbing at first, I can tell you.)

Anyway, I may go find that scene and replay it to see if there's something I forgot (very likely, even if I'm right. I definitely wouldn't remember much about the dreams if I had that ability ... and my current brain), but for now I think I've satisfied the itch your little word salad created in me. It was a fun dive.