VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.6.0] [JDOR]

[Brannon]

It was explained pretty explicitly by Evelyn. Anyone she touches on the present day, she could scry into the next following day. The host is selected at random, but she's learn to select her host at will from those who she's physically touched.

Example: She makes physical contact with 5 people on the 18th... When she goes to sleep that night, she'll scry into the entire day's events of the 19th with full sensory perspective of her host. ONE of the five people she touched will be selected at random unless she chooses one of the five at will.

The scene where MC scrys into Marina was simply to illustrate how Evelyn's power looks from her perspective. He might have touched a number of people that day and he was trying to scry into Evelyn per her advice but he failed. So his host was chosen at random and it happened to be Marina.

He did touch her before acquiring the power, true. But based on the rules we know of her power, it was within how it's expected to work. He did touch Marina that specific day and he scryed into her next day while he slept.

That the time it is decided is "a day" is what Evelyn THINKS applies.
That it did not happen for days prior (and not all people look upon a calendar daily i.e. Evelyn did not necessarily know whether it was sunday or saturday when she scried that barista ...) does not mean it can't happen.
For all we know she could be scrying a dude for today she accidentally brushed against in the bus last week and her power only NOW decided to scry him.
Every power is different. And users knowing exactly how their own power works at all times are rare at best.
Amber for example knows that she is permanently invisible. Truth is it apparently can be controlled as she went visible briefly at kissing MC.

And btw. there was no mention of the current day MC scried. It could very well be that this was the second day at school for her (first day she got her clothes nicked and the day would stand out) the very same as if it was the day that is about to happen. It could be that Evelyn uses the "standard version" of the power that only works on this day and MC is "special" (apart from having a telephone pole as a dick) and accesses the "improved version" instead.


And no from what is known of that power it is not said that "it was within how it's expected to work".
Your assumption is based on Evelyn, but remember she had it way prior.
I see it as the mutagen is transferred via touch, much like todds imprint, and that action activates the power. Thing is at the point MC transferred the mutagen it could not do that.
It is like trying to eat a boiled egg for breakfast before you boiled the water.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Origin Story Alternate Universe Render #9 feat. Bare Witness

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Origin Story Alternate Universe Render #9 feat. Bare Witness
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I see JDOR is familiar with this game, it's high time I went back and finished BW...
on the one hand the render looks hot!

 

[ohhiimfox]

Origin Story Alternate Universe Render #9 feat. Bare Witness
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THENA

 

[Hungover00]

THENA

I'm trying to think of another game that shows the diversity of women's sexuality as well as Bare Witness. Even just having Thena being a one and done girl, rather than the hyperorgasmic-squirting norm you see in VNs is huge.

(it's probably Mythos, if anything. But it's been awhile since I last replayed that)

 

[Talmadge]

I love this game. It keeps me on the edge of my seat. Not literally. LoL. And I love all the mentions of other games in it. Making them as movies seen from different realities is a great choice. It would be funny if the Dev could even borrow one or two people from a game and, under a different name thanks to the meta-verse, show up as a cameo in this one.

 

[Danilo marques]

eu espero que MC saque seu pau Monstro e roube o poder de Anthony, isso não é gay de o MC comer a bunda dele hahahaha


ele vai ficar forte quando pegar o poder de Lúcia. e quando lança o episódio 6??

 

[Jace_Herondale]

Question. I am new here. Just finished the game. How long does it usually take in between updates because I NEED more.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Question. I am new here. Just finished the game. How long does it usually take in between updates because I NEED more.

WAAAAAAAAAY to long! Dev is kind of a milker...........












/s

 

[Jace_Herondale]

WAAAAAAAAAY to long! Dev is kind of a milker...........












/s

I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?

 

[SomeoneX22]

I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?

Dev said that he want to do two updates to be ahead of schedule in case of delays that is why current one takes so long.
Which is perfectly reasonable thing to do.

 

[JJohns2049]

I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?

Yeh you're wrong...

Dev said like 3 months. He already finished the next chapter most often, but if it takes longer, he still wants to keep 3 months. Unfortunately it means it it takes less time, it's still 3 months...

I'm not sure if he talked about wanting 4 months for every update....

 

[HornyyPussy]

I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?

No, it's about that give or take.

 

[Jace_Herondale]

No, it's about that give or take.

Then update should be around the corner since the last one was at the start of October

 

[Rehwyn]

I see it as the mutagen is transferred via touch, much like todds imprint, and that action activates the power. Thing is at the point MC transferred the mutagen it could not do that.
It is like trying to eat a boiled egg for breakfast before you boiled the water.

Clearly, since MC scry'd Marina, it doesn't work that way.

As for the "who Evelyn touched that day" thing, jacq has specifically said in comments that if Evelyn goes a full day without touching anyone, she gets no visions. This likely wouldn't happen if she could scry people from more than the last 24 hours.

Then update should be around the corner since the last one was at the start of October

Jacq had a dev post a little while back explaining that he was able to do every 2 months for a while because he was working on Chapter 3 before he even released Chapter 1. Going forward, he's shifting to a 3 month cycle in order to be consistent now that he has less material prepared in advance. He's still about a chapter ahead, but trying to keep at a 2 month pace isn't sustainable indefinitely. He believes 3 months is.

As such, he hasn't set a date for Chapter 6, but I suspect late December or early January.

 

[Brannon]

Clearly, since MC scry'd Marina, it doesn't work that way.

It does not work that way FOR EVELYN but as I said (and you conveniently cut out in the reply if you have read it at all) we don't know if the power MC absorbs the the 100% identical one from the source or an "improved version".

And btw. as response to the question why XYZ should not be possible answering that XYZ was possible is a bit ... low effort.

 

[Quick quick]

Gallery unlock

 

[Rehwyn]

It does not work that way FOR EVELYN but as I said (and you conveniently cut out in the reply if you have read it at all) we don't know if the power MC absorbs the the 100% identical one from the source or an "improved version".

And btw. as response to the question why XYZ should not be possible answering that XYZ was possible is a bit ... low effort.

That's precisely my point. For MC, the fact that he viewed Marina means that whatever mutagen he later gains from Evelyn wasn't present at the time he touched Marina. Therefore, a mutagen specific to her power could not have been transferred to Marina from MC.

As for the part I removed:

And no from what is known of that power it is not said that "it was within how it's expected to work".
Your assumption is based on Evelyn, but remember she had it way prior.

We don't know the exact mutagen mechanics of her power. The idea that she transfers mutagen to people she touched is therefore speculation, unless there's some dialogue I'm forgetting.

Here's what we know, based on available evidence:

• Each night when Evelyn sleeps, she views the full following day of someone and never any other day
• That someone is picked from a pool of people she's touched during the proceeding day prior to falling asleep, and only from that pool
• If she controls her power, she can pick who she views as she touches them. Otherwise, it's apparently random.
• If she touches no one for a day, she sees no one. This also implies she cannot view herself.
• What she views can be altered by actions taken to influence it.

Now in regards to MC, thus far the cure mechanics of the powers he's gained are the same as the original. The powers he's gained from Moonsong, Emerald, and Kat thus far appear the same, though his control and current power with each is more limited (likely because he's had them for less than a week). Until evidence suggests otherwise, it's reasonable to believe other powers MC gains will function similarly.

Given what what know and ignoring speculation, it is therefore within the realm of "how Evelyn's power works" for MC to view Marina. We know he touched her earlier in the day. He tried to control the power to view Evelyn, but as they acknowledged, the chance of him being able to control it immediately is not high. I don't think we know for certain that he viewed Marina's next day, but there's no reason to believe otherwise. Therefore, the fact that MC views Marina does not contradict any of the core functionality of Evelyn's power, as we currently understand it.

Is it possible that powers work differently for MC? Sure. But there's not really evidence to suggest it at this time. And I'm the meantime, if the powers do work the same way, it suggests that Evelyn probably isn't transferring something to the people she touched either.

 

[Jericho85]

That's precisely my point. For MC, the fact that he viewed Marina means that whatever mutagen he later gains from Evelyn wasn't present at the time he touched Marina. Therefore, a mutagen specific to her power could not have been transferred to Marina from MC.

As for the part I removed:

We don't know the exact mutagen mechanics of her power. The idea that she transfers mutagen to people she touched is therefore speculation, unless there's some dialogue I'm forgetting.

Here's what we know, based on available evidence:

• Each night when Evelyn sleeps, she views the full following day of someone and never any other day
• That someone is picked from a pool of people she's touched during the proceeding day prior to falling asleep, and only from that pool
• If she controls her power, she can pick who she views as she touches them. Otherwise, it's apparently random.
• If she touches no one for a day, she sees no one. This also implies she cannot view herself.
• What she views can be altered by actions taken to influence it.

Now in regards to MC, thus far the cure mechanics of the powers he's gained are the same as the original. The powers he's gained from Moonsong, Emerald, and Kat thus far appear the same, though his control and current power with each is more limited (likely because he's had them for less than a week). Until evidence suggests otherwise, it's reasonable to believe other powers MC gains will function similarly.

Given what what know and ignoring speculation, it is therefore within the realm of "how Evelyn's power works" for MC to view Marina. We know he touched her earlier in the day. He tried to control the power to view Evelyn, but as they acknowledged, the chance of him being able to control it immediately is not high. I don't think we know for certain that he viewed Marina's next day, but there's no reason to believe otherwise. Therefore, the fact that MC views Marina does not contradict any of the core functionality of Evelyn's power, as we currently understand it.

Is it possible that powers work differently for MC? Sure. But there's not really evidence to suggest it at this time. And I'm the meantime, if the powers do work the same way, it suggests that Evelyn probably isn't transferring something to the people she touched either.

Speaking of speculations, maybe it's a little bit of both. I think the "imprint" idea doesn't necessarily have to break any rules with how her power works (or anyone's for that matter).

It's a virus after all, so it's possible that metagen is transferred every time any two people touch (sort of like how we deposit germs or skin cells on other people we touch in the real world), but it's completely independent of any one power. It wouldn't matter if the person has manifested or not, they're still depositing and transferring metagen on everything and everyone, but that metagen interacts differently depending on specific arbitrary rules of an individual's manifested power. So you can think of it not as a single person imprinting metagen on another person, but as the metagen itself imprinting on many persons.

This could perhaps explain why MC wound up scrying into Marina after he acquired Evelyn's power. The metagen was deposited earlier on but the conditions for them to activate were simply met later when he fell asleep without properly selecting a host as per the rules of his newly acquired power.

 

[Phoexist]

It could be as simple as the visions are chosen from DNA still present on the skin. If you touch somebody, you are likely to be carrying their skin cells around on you for several hours. Thus when he gets the power is irrelevant because Marina's skill cells are still present.