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I'm trying to think of another game that shows the diversity of women's sexuality as well as Bare Witness. Even just having Thena being a one and done girl, rather than the hyperorgasmic-squirting norm you see in VNs is huge.THENA![]()
WAAAAAAAAAY to long! Dev is kind of a milker...........Question. I am new here. Just finished the game. How long does it usually take in between updates because I NEED more.
I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?WAAAAAAAAAY to long! Dev is kind of a milker...........
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Dev said that he want to do two updates to be ahead of schedule in case of delays that is why current one takes so long.I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?
Yeh you're wrong...I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?
No, it's about that give or take.I saw 5 chapters and that it came out a year ago so I asuumed around 2 months per update. Was I wrong?
Then update should be around the corner since the last one was at the start of OctoberNo, it's about that give or take.
Clearly, since MC scry'd Marina, it doesn't work that way.I see it as the mutagen is transferred via touch, much like todds imprint, and that action activates the power. Thing is at the point MC transferred the mutagen it could not do that.
It is like trying to eat a boiled egg for breakfast before you boiled the water.
Jacq had a dev post a little while back explaining that he was able to do every 2 months for a while because he was working on Chapter 3 before he even released Chapter 1. Going forward, he's shifting to a 3 month cycle in order to be consistent now that he has less material prepared in advance. He's still about a chapter ahead, but trying to keep at a 2 month pace isn't sustainable indefinitely. He believes 3 months is.Then update should be around the corner since the last one was at the start of October
It does not work that way FOR EVELYN but as I said (and you conveniently cut out in the reply if you have read it at all) we don't know if the power MC absorbs the the 100% identical one from the source or an "improved version".Clearly, since MC scry'd Marina, it doesn't work that way.
That's precisely my point. For MC, the fact that he viewed Marina means that whatever mutagen he later gains from Evelyn wasn't present at the time he touched Marina. Therefore, a mutagen specific to her power could not have been transferred to Marina from MC.It does not work that way FOR EVELYN but as I said (and you conveniently cut out in the reply if you have read it at all) we don't know if the power MC absorbs the the 100% identical one from the source or an "improved version".
And btw. as response to the question why XYZ should not be possible answering that XYZ was possible is a bit ... low effort.
We don't know the exact mutagen mechanics of her power. The idea that she transfers mutagen to people she touched is therefore speculation, unless there's some dialogue I'm forgetting.And no from what is known of that power it is not said that "it was within how it's expected to work".
Your assumption is based on Evelyn, but remember she had it way prior.
Speaking of speculations, maybe it's a little bit of both. I think the "imprint" idea doesn't necessarily have to break any rules with how her power works (or anyone's for that matter).That's precisely my point. For MC, the fact that he viewed Marina means that whatever mutagen he later gains from Evelyn wasn't present at the time he touched Marina. Therefore, a mutagen specific to her power could not have been transferred to Marina from MC.
As for the part I removed:
We don't know the exact mutagen mechanics of her power. The idea that she transfers mutagen to people she touched is therefore speculation, unless there's some dialogue I'm forgetting.
Here's what we know, based on available evidence:
Now in regards to MC, thus far the cure mechanics of the powers he's gained are the same as the original. The powers he's gained from Moonsong, Emerald, and Kat thus far appear the same, though his control and current power with each is more limited (likely because he's had them for less than a week). Until evidence suggests otherwise, it's reasonable to believe other powers MC gains will function similarly.
- Each night when Evelyn sleeps, she views the full following day of someone and never any other day
- That someone is picked from a pool of people she's touched during the proceeding day prior to falling asleep, and only from that pool
- If she controls her power, she can pick who she views as she touches them. Otherwise, it's apparently random.
- If she touches no one for a day, she sees no one. This also implies she cannot view herself.
- What she views can be altered by actions taken to influence it.
Given what what know and ignoring speculation, it is therefore within the realm of "how Evelyn's power works" for MC to view Marina. We know he touched her earlier in the day. He tried to control the power to view Evelyn, but as they acknowledged, the chance of him being able to control it immediately is not high. I don't think we know for certain that he viewed Marina's next day, but there's no reason to believe otherwise. Therefore, the fact that MC views Marina does not contradict any of the core functionality of Evelyn's power, as we currently understand it.
Is it possible that powers work differently for MC? Sure. But there's not really evidence to suggest it at this time. And I'm the meantime, if the powers do work the same way, it suggests that Evelyn probably isn't transferring something to the people she touched either.
The player has no idea if the power MC gained from Moonsong, Emerald and Kat are the same those girls are using.Now in regards to MC, thus far the cure mechanics of the powers he's gained are the same as the original. The powers he's gained from Moonsong, Emerald, and Kat thus far appear the same, though his control and current power with each is more limited (likely because he's had them for less than a week). Until evidence suggests otherwise, it's reasonable to believe other powers MC gains will function similarly.
So basically the metagen does absolutely everything and the super(hero or villain) is "only" the receiver?Speaking of speculations, maybe it's a little bit of both. I think the "imprint" idea doesn't necessarily have to break any rules with how her power works (or anyone's for that matter).
It's a virus after all, so it's possible that metagen is transferred every time any two people touch (sort of like how we deposit germs or skin cells on other people we touch in the real world), but it's completely independent of any one power. It wouldn't matter if the person has manifested or not, they're still depositing and transferring metagen on everything and everyone, but that metagen interacts differently depending on specific arbitrary rules of an individual's manifested power. So you can think of it not as a single person imprinting metagen on another person, but as the metagen itself imprinting on many persons.
This could perhaps explain why MC wound up scrying into Marina after he acquired Evelyn's power. The metagen was deposited earlier on but the conditions for them to activate were simply met later when he fell asleep without properly selecting a host as per the rules of his newly acquired power.
At present, there is not any significant evidence that the powers MC gains work fundamentally different that cannot just as likely be explained by other hypotheses. Therefore, stating that MC's powers work different is speculation. It sounds like we're in agreement on this.The player has no idea if the power MC gained from Moonsong, Emerald and Kat are the same those girls are using.
At a glance yes. MC has a wolf, can make his hands glow green and spawn a copy of himself. But neither of those effects are all the girl is capable of.
With Evelyns power it is the same.
MC can live the dream of his target and at first glance it appears to work the same way Evelyn has described. Obviously he never has seen this in action as Evelyn is unable to show it.
It could be that Evelyn sees the dream in psychedelic colors for all we know. Just because she allegedly has not mentioned it before (MC has horrible memory problems at times) does not mean it is not that way.
It is not sure these are the very same and your evidence points at this irrefutable fact.
You merely SPECULATE that MC has the exact same power at the exact same power level.
Whether YOUR speculation is correct or MY speculation is correct remains to be seen.
So basically the metagen does absolutely everything and the super(hero or villain) is "only" the receiver?
Interesting idea.
One that is not really plausible without further explanation, but interesting.
Speaking of speculations, maybe it's a little bit of both. I think the "imprint" idea doesn't necessarily have to break any rules with how her power works (or anyone's for that matter).
It's a virus after all, so it's possible that metagen is transferred every time any two people touch (sort of like how we deposit germs or skin cells on other people we touch in the real world), but it's completely independent of any one power. It wouldn't matter if the person has manifested or not, they're still depositing and transferring metagen on everything and everyone, but that metagen interacts differently depending on specific arbitrary rules of an individual's manifested power. So you can think of it not as a single person imprinting metagen on another person, but as the metagen itself imprinting on many persons.
This could perhaps explain why MC wound up scrying into Marina after he acquired Evelyn's power. The metagen was deposited earlier on but the conditions for them to activate were simply met later when he fell asleep without properly selecting a host as per the rules of his newly acquired power.
These ideas are pretty consistent with my own as to why MC was able to view Marina despite gaining Evelyn's power later in the day. I suspect either some "generic" mutagen/DNA was transferred from MC to Marina or MC "picked up" something from Marina during the day that later allowed him to view her. And the one-day limitation may be that this degrades over time to the point that it's too weak the next day. Definitely speculation, but either of these could work given what we know (which is definitely limited).It could be as simple as the visions are chosen from DNA still present on the skin. If you touch somebody, you are likely to be carrying their skin cells around on you for several hours. Thus when he gets the power is irrelevant because Marina's skill cells are still present.
Comparatively, while limited, there is some evidence that the powers seem the same at first glance as you said. Saying that MC has "no idea" if the powers he gained are the same is not accurate. He knows he can summon a wolf, he knows he can create green energy, he knows he can create clones, and now he knows that he can see visions of someone he's touched that day during his sleep. His ability to communicate with his wolf and direct it appears to be consistent with Moonsong's expectations, and the power allows him to communicate with hers too. The clones he creates appears to allow him to feel what the clone does (remember that the "real" Kat appears to feel what he clone does). These are all functions that match rather than differ from the capabilities of the people they originated from, and none of the people whose power he's gained has been surprised by anything he's done with their power if they've observed him using it. That's way more than "no idea".