0tt0von

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Also I loved what's going on with Ivy / Holly / Lena right now. Lena knowing that what she and Ivy are doing is "wicked" but enjoying it anyway, and the enthusiasm that Holly is embracing it all with. Assuming this storyline continues the way I think it is, it might become my canonical Lena path.
Lena x Holly x Ivy throuple isn't already canon?
 

aykarin

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Just finished playing through the update. I will wait with the overall verdict for the Final version, but I can already say that it's probably the best update when it comes to sex scenes. We got several amazing ones, among which my absolute favorite was the shower scene. Man, even though I saw it yesterday, I'm still thinking about it and had to replay it just now... What makes this scene so unforgettable, is not just amazing art
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but the whole atmosphere of desire and sin. The new music track (called "sex_deep2" in the game files) brings it to the new heights.

Ivy really is the queen of corruption. She perfectly manipulates not only Holly, but also Lena.
 
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bitofaperv

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My 2cents on the update: a mix of good and bad but overall for the 4.5-6 month (depending on how you count) underwhelming.
+ Some nice visuals: shower scene, museum scene and photoshoot being highlights in my opinion (purely based on aesthetics)
+ Some interesting story beats: Gillian, Blonde Alison, Cucking
- Some recycled art (which is okay) and most scenes only slight variations of familiar visuals
- Mostly treading water or rather grueling pace in other story parts (Stan, Seymore; any dominance/corruption for Lena)
- Overall way too safe, no umpf to any part of the game

The bottom line for me is that I doubt there is much reason to get excited about future updates. Not because of creativity or style but for the following reason: Yes there will be hype, Yes EK is still one best VN out there, Yes I will continue to play the game but there are more and more cracks in the foundation. GGGB, for better or worse, just based on title and concept had a clear vision. It was satisfying to play the corruption/fall of Ashley into depravity. The wrap up of that game was clear and interesting, from porn to gangleader to pregnant to happy end to being dead. Most shortcomings of that game can be attributed to it being EK's first game. The production side of that game, also the communication on Patreon was or at least felt exciting as well, now it's a clusterfuck of simping and delays, excuses, apologies, lack of updates due to personal reasons...update, rinse, repeat. Yes this game is more complex, yes there are more lines of code (though I maintain this means very little), but at the end of the day it's a pornographic game.
To me, GGGB is a straight up porn game. What narrative and character exist, are wholly in service to providing raunchy scenes.

With ORS Eva seemed to be trying to "grow up." She spent time developing more complex characters and relationships, and was more focused on providing an adult visual novel than a porno.

This update, more than any other (although in hindsight, this has been coming for some time) has hit the wall that was always going to come from the developer as she tried to cram more and more fetishes into the story.

She has had to branch so hard that maintaining a satisfying narrative and consistent characters, is completely impossible. It has also, clearly, made development time get to a level that is unacceptable. This update is short, and no amount of varying replays is as satisfying as a full experience.

I've always liked Geralt's contributions to this thread, but when they said it took them 2 hours to first run through, I laughed. I imagined a scenario where they fapped for three 20 minute sessions, to individual scenes, because that's the only way I can believe it took 2 hours.

On top of this, even though this episode felt exactly like a GGGB update (a tiny bit of plot and character, and a bunch of scenes), it completely lacked the raunchiness GGGB had at the same stage.

So no one is happy.

That's a turn of phrase, so don't go all "but it was good for me," those of you with the miserable desire to be contrarian.

In my opinion, the developer is trying to do too much, and it is starting to negatively impact the game on every level.
 

JoeSte91

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Upon reflection, I'm kind of okay with Holly suddenly agreeing to bone Mark just because Lena says so, because;

1- It's funny

2- Holly is naive, inexperienced and insecure. She has little willpower of her own and can be easily influenced by both Lena and Ian throughout the story already. I'm sure she knows it's cheating, but Lena is telling her it's the right thing to do, and she could be thinking something like 'if I don't get better at sex/become more interesting, Ian is going to think I'm too boring for him.'

I think the problem is that we don't see Holly's pov so we don't get to see her being very conflicted about it. Just look at the later scene where they set her up with Robert. She tries to protest, but eventually goes along with that Ivy and Lena tell her.

Additionally,I love Cindy, but the most amusing bad end for her will be losing Ian, Axel and Wade, only for Wade to end up with Ivy.
 

SerHawkes

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In this update, was there any news between lena and Ed? Did they ever have any sexual interactions in the game?
Fuck no. It was scrapped. And I hope to fuck if there is any consideration for a "dlc" if you will, it never gets fucking added. Why do are people so insistant on wanting this? Truly? We already have a cringy old guy that will likely fuck Lena in Seymour. We had that in Cringy fucking Arthur. We don't need a repeat of that crap content.
 

Joshy92

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Wait I haven't played this update does Holly cheat on Ian no matter what?
That will probably be a deal breaker for me because I was doing a loyal couple path
so that would make me very sad
 
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johnyakuza1

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damn, she gonna end up preggo soon, also very sexy heels/feet
Nah she's very conscious about Ian wearing a condom if you had an "accident" with her before... wouldn't even let him fuck without it so I don't think she'll end up preggo anytime soon, at least not with ian
 

JoJoPool

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Fuck no. It was scrapped. And I hope to fuck if there is any consideration for a "dlc" if you will, it never gets fucking added. Why do are people so insistant on wanting this? Truly? We already have a cringy old guy that will likely fuck Lena in Seymour. We had that in Cringy fucking Arthur. We don't need a repeat of that crap content.
then don't play it, it's easy
 

SerHawkes

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then don't play it, it's easy
If only that were the case. Made a vow to hold out till chapter 12 to see if EK delievered on Ian-Ivy hooking up. Looks like I might just drop the game by next chapter unless things don't pan out.
 
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