VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[JoJoPool]

If only that were the case. Made a vow to hold out till chapter 12 to see if EK delievered on Ian-Ivy hooking up. Looks like I might just drop the game by next chapter unless things don't pan out.

Ian and Ivy are getting closer, it's only a matter of time be patient and try to enjoy the other scenes and characters

 

[JoeSte91]

Geez I hope so
tbh It would ruin everything for me
I think I will wait and see before playing the new chapter

Either that or you need to make a concerted effort to keep Holly pure with both Ian and Lena, not just Ian.

 

[Akkarin69]

Chapter felt really short and nothing major happend. Let's see how chapter 12 turns out.

 

[duffman44]

Chapter felt really short and nothing major happend. Let's see how chapter 12 turns out.

Still better than lust campus atm

 

[ScornedBeef]

Fuck no. It was scrapped. And I hope to fuck if there is any consideration for a "dlc" if you will, it never gets fucking added. Why do are people so insistant on wanting this? Truly? We already have a cringy old guy that will likely fuck Lena in Seymour. We had that in Cringy fucking Arthur. We don't need a repeat of that crap content.

lmao this dumbass thinks every fetish that he doesn't personally like shouldn't exist.

 

[JoJoPool]

Still better than lust campus atm

Can we please stop with this mentality ! If a game is better than that other below average game it doesn't necessarily mean it's a great one (I'm not talking about ORS specifically, I'm speaking in general).
If every dev followed this excuse of "hey at least my game is not the worst so there's no need to improve it" then good games will become a rarity (which is already happening).
This update is still good don't get me wrong, but it honestly felt weaker than the previous ones, not up to the standard you'd expect from Eva. I can only hope part 2 will fix that.

 

[Deleted member 4445455]

why, do you drink it or eat it maybe?

No saving for sissy like you

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

To me, GGGB is a straight up porn game. What narrative and character exist, are wholly in service to providing raunchy scenes.

With ORS Eva seemed to be trying to "grow up." She spent time developing more complex characters and relationships, and was more focused on providing an adult visual novel than a porno.

This update, more than any other (although in hindsight, this has been coming for some time) has hit the wall that was always going to come from the developer as she tried to cram more and more fetishes into the story.

She has had to branch so hard that maintaining a satisfying narrative and consistent characters, is completely impossible. It has also, clearly, made development time get to a level that is unacceptable. This update is short, and no amount of varying replays is as satisfying as a full experience.

I've always liked Geralt's contributions to this thread, but when they said it took them 2 hours to first run through, I laughed. I imagined a scenario where they fapped for three 20 minute sessions, to individual scenes, because that's the only way I can believe it took 2 hours.

On top of this, even though this episode felt exactly like a GGGB update (a tiny bit of plot and character, and a bunch of scenes), it completely lacked the raunchiness GGGB had at the same stage.

So no one is happy.

That's a turn of phrase, so don't go all "but it was good for me," those of you with the miserable desire to be contrarian.

In my opinion, the developer is trying to do too much, and it is starting to negatively impact the game on every level.

I know it's 2023 now, but I'm not "they", it's "he"
It's strange that people think that everyone plays AVNs just to fap on porn art, I'm more interested in the story progression and the brunches that are in priority for me.
Ofc for the Ctrl brigade, the game runs in 10 minutes, but with careful reading of all the dialogues and a smoke break, this is really two hours. The next routes were shorter as I only read the new scenes carefully.

The rest is good criticism. I agree with opinion that game is incredibly complex and branched, this project is hard for Eva. She could use help of another writer who would give advice on the script.
I only know one dev who is good with a heavily brached game, this man remembers thousands of small details and can assemble them into well-working script. I don't even have to name it, everyone knows him.

 

[Zulsmashing@ss]

Doesn't work already tried

Yup me too didn't work

 

[Akkarin69]

Still better than lust campus atm

Who cares about lust campus? Why even compare those two titles when they have nothing in common?

 

[JoJoPool]

but with careful reading of all the dialogues and a smoke break, this is really two hours.

That first smoke after a big hard nut is heavenly !! PURE BLISS
P.S: Don't smoke kids it's bad for your health

 

[elysium1988]

Can anybody make a list of the new scenes please, just making sure I do not miss any.
From my playthrough I could find

Ian - Cindy
Ian - Alison
Ian - Lena
Ian Lena (cuck)
Ivy - Lena - Holly
Lena - Holly
Lena - Robert
Lena texting + Stalkfap
Seymour content
Stan kiss

 

[Eye-switcher]

This update was just meh, ok it was loaded with sex scenes upon sex scenes especially for Ian and the art is very good but it still felt empty. I dont know what happened but my Ian is now a Giga chad that has fucked every girl in the game except Louise and Holly (and Holly will of course be fucked by Ian in the Summerhouse ) without consequence while Lena`s options feel very limited if she isnt into Lesbian stuff. One of the weaker updates despite having a lot of content.

 

[JoJoPool]

Can anybody make a list of the new scenes please, just making sure I do not miss any.
From my playthrough I could find

Ian - Cindy
Ian - Alison
Ian - Lena
Ian Lena (cuck)
Ivy - Lena - Holly
Lena - Holly
Lena - Robert
Lena texting + Stalkfap
Seymour content
Stan kiss

You're missing Lena-Ian-Louise/Lena-Mike-Louise , Mike-Lena , Ian-Cherry , Ian-Holly and Gillian (dream)

 

[BigTyson]

Can anybody make a list of the new scenes please, just making sure I do not miss any.
From my playthrough I could find

Ian - Cindy
Ian - Alison
Ian - Lena
Ian Lena (cuck)
Ivy - Lena - Holly
Lena - Holly
Lena - Robert
Lena texting + Stalkfap
Seymour content
Stan kiss

There is also a Lena x Ivy scene without Holly in the bathroom.

 

[Blurpee69]

lmao this dumbass thinks every fetish that he doesn't personally like shouldn't exist.

While he wasn't particularly... eloquent, with what he was saying. The opposite of what you said, and what I think SerHawkes was trying to get it, can also be true. Just because a fetish exists, doesn't mean it needs to be shoe horned into a game just to cater to that fetish.

Personally, I like that the Ed storyline was dropped and that he and Molly are now just a lovingly married couple. It makes them actual characters, rather than just a fetish to be check marked. Considering Eva has made a very intentional choice to make ORS more of an actual plot driven character focused story; Ed and Molly, for me, go a long way to make that a true statement.

 

[elysium1988]

You're missing Lena-Ian-Louise/Lena-Mike-Louise , Mike-Lena , Ian-Cherry , Ian-Holly and Gillian (dream)

Can you share the save for the Mike & Holly paths path. I am sadly not on it. Thanks in advance

 

[What'sNew]

What was the point of Ivy asking Ian all those questions at the end of ch 11? Knowing her there's probably an ulterior motive.

Either that or Eva is just trying to give us Ivy scenes with Ian and settled with that .

 

[Gicoo]

While he wasn't particularly... eloquent, with what he was saying. The opposite of what you said, and what I think SerHawkes was trying to get it, can also be true. Just because a fetish exists, doesn't mean it needs to be shoe horned into a game just to cater to that fetish.

Personally, I like that the Ed storyline was dropped and that he and Molly are now just a lovingly married couple. It makes them actual characters, rather than just a fetish to be check marked. Considering Eva has made a very intentional choice to make ORS more of an actual plot driven character focused story; Ed and Molly, for me, go a long way to make that a true statement.

Including Ed wouldn't overwhelm the cast with older men, he and Seymour would still be a minority vs the amount of male characters (especially since newcomers like Mark, Marcel and Clark are on the run). Ed would be a good contrast to Seymour and even Arthur with being more sympathetic and homely.

 

[BlandChili]

What was the point of Ivy asking Ian all those questions at the end of ch 11? Knowing her there's probably an ulterior motive.

Either that or Eva is just trying to give us Ivy scenes with Ian and settled with that .

I found that entire conversation to be a rather inelegant way of catching Lena's and Ian's routes up with each other.

I just did a playthrough of my "Holly doesn't do pole dancing" save and guess what happened this chapter? Holly starts doing pole dancing.

This chapter as a whole felt like an attempt to try to consolidate several routes so they're easier to work with in future chapters. Same with the blonde Alison thing. There is, like, three or four different ways to go blonde (bimbo) Alison and I assume that going forward what will matter in terms of getting different content with her will be for the game to read if she's going bimbo or not, rather than looking for individual states, so it has condensed her submissive, threesome and single routes into one version of Alison where she is more sexually toned up. Something like that.