VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[camube]

So taking a deeper look, it seems that when Ian breaks it off with Alison over the phone, it sets their relationship to 3. He can apologize to bring it to 4. There are no more situations with her to raise the relationship score by the time she offers him to come to her place (after the Gillian thing). And the requirement for Ian to accept is 6 or more points.

So Alison's character is still trying her hardest to ensnare Ian, but Ian can't fall for it if he is on Lena route. Bummer.

yeah this is what i was getting at yes

my Commited Relationship to Lena Ian never able to accept Alison's offer to her house. He rejects automatically.
That playthrough also has that Ian went for Cherry on the first Shine scene, but she slept with Alison too.

 

[CoalPhelps]

She's definitely not a perfect person by any means but I don't think that equals to her being a piece of shit or going to murder Ian or something. The bimbofication is all about getting Ian interested. That's the main thing. If you're on her route you can push her in that direction or you can push her in the other direction. Alison, I think due to her repressed desire for Ian and her personal struggles atm, is very malleable. If Ian asks her to do something or she thinks there's even a slight chance of something getting Ian's attention she'll damn near do anything. I don't think that's the classic mindless bimbo slut but tbh even if it was 100% just the bimbo trope I'd still be into it. Just because something is a trope doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. It's still a porn game after all so if it's hot it's hot trope or not

In no way do I mean to say that this trope is bad in itself. It's just that I don't think this change is at all in Alison's character and there wasn't any background for such a change in the past Chapters, at least in case they're just friends. For example, in my walkthrough, Ian treated her as a friend and made neutral comments about her appearance when she asked. The only possible premise is that Ian and the others have been paying close attention to Ivy, but that's a very sleazy reason for such a drastic change. That's why Allison doesn't seem so consistent anymore.

I think it should have been tied to ian_go_alison's points or something, rather than happening by default.

 

[MF_DOOM]

So, I went to sleep, woke up and people are still talking about Alison

I still dont understand whats the issue, she is acting somewhat rationally, even more than most females would in the same situation.
She didnt try to sabotage Ian fucking with Cherry, Emma or Lena.
Nobody's car got keyed or other property was destroyed.
No pets were put in a microwave and no death threats.

Again, Alison is an ok woman who got an itch after a break-up with a guy like Milo and probably she got some serious sexual frustration to take care of. Why would she wait for Ian to make his move when Jeremy is an easy option.

 

[vgbestly]

Robert is alright, there i said it people.

Officer! Yeah, this guy right here.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Alison is great,a real woman with real issues and nice tits.
Way better than that walking cliche nerd geek Holly.

 

[| Vee |]

Alison was decent character before ch11. She was seeking attention, I had my routes with her, in ch11 she just goes direct upto level 100 AND behaving as Louise version for Ian (we don't need that we have Stan and Louise for that shit already). She doesn't have to dance around Ian's finger deliberately. She is a decent character with decent personality. and that personality is kinda getting lost by her behaving this much desperation or whatever.

 

[MF_DOOM]

Alison was decent character before ch11. She was seeking attention, I had my routes with her, in ch11 she just goes direct upto level 100 AND behaving as Louise version for Ian (we don't need that we have Stan and Louise for that shit already). She doesn't have to dance around Ian's finger deliberately. She is a decent character with decent personality. and that personality is kinda getting lost by her behaving this much desperation or whatever.

Sounds like every other female out there. Except the fact that Alison does despicable things to pasta.

 

[projenkostarlic]

the more i think about it, the more i think ORS is leaps and bounds over GGGB in terms of engaging storyline, but GGGB adult scenes are really wild though.

I wonder if the last quarter of ORS would go that far or not

For sure lol. We aren't there yet but you can see where the progression is leading. And you know what the dev is capable of writing from GGGB

 

[Deathstar1200]

The number of Stan fans be like:

 

[PilotLara]

PilotLara one small scripting error remaining in beta:

                    "Focus on improving grappling" if jiujitsu > 3:

The conditional should probably read jiujitsu < 4. As it is, it allows Ian with jiujitsu at 4 to bypass the other option (Focus on mastering grappling) and improve his ability to 5 without paying a willpoint for it.

Thanks, fixed

 

[ffive]

IF Lena takes drugs does it have any consequences down the path? besides that she can take again without loosing will points.

Not for the time being, but i imagine this has a chance to get picked up again during Lena's work at the club.

One thing we do need to keep in mind, though, is that Ian and Lena won't be at the beach house/Wildcats shoot for the entire chapters. (...) This probably frees Eva a bit in terms of getting in additional content depending on play choices (e.g. Minerva for Ian, Mike or Robert for Lena)

From Ch.11 Lena side content, it seems there can potentially be some Lena/Jeremy action in August (if Lena and Jeremy had sex before) this time with Louise out of the picture.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The number of Stan fans be like:


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I wish this was true, but unfortunately it's not.

 

[mommysboiii]

She still takes Mark's dick if Lena pushes her to. Even if she's with Ian

I HOPE SOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!damm right my holly is gonna cheat

 

[Trainer7]

Great update, well worth the wait! Keep up the great work Eva

 

[mommysboiii]

Seems to be a mistake in the bugfix.

PilotLara this line here:

            "{image=icon_charisma.webp}/{image=icon_lust.webp}You should do it" if (lena_charisma > 6 and lena_holly_dating == False) or (lena_lust > 7 and lena_holly_dating == False):

the _dating conditionals here should probably be ian_holly_dating instead of the current ones. As it is, this blocks Lena who is sleeping with Holly from pushing her into fucking a guy, but she's free to do it for Holly who is dating Ian, which kind of goes against the rest of the game.

(either that, or this entire block

    elif holly_guy == 1:
        $ flena = "n"
        l "And what about you? Any news about your situation with Mark?"
// ...

should be locked behind and ian_holly_dating == False check)

nope corruption and ian/holly dating should not be seperate

if holly gets corrupted it should not matter if she is dating ian or not

holly should gain corruption if she dates ian unless pure holly is only possible with ian/holly dating and holly is not friends with ivy and slutty lena otherwise it will make no sens in the future

why would ivy hang out with boring pure holly? why would ivy lena take pure holly to partys at all??? why would a lena that gets more and more and more mean and slutty like boring pure holly at all???.......

pure holly should be a book nerd with no friends that has ian as a bf will be a boring route but it seems that eva harly push for corruption in almost all routes so seperate dating and corruption would be a mess for the future

let me corrupt holly while ian/holly are dating !!!

 

[ffive]

I HOPE SOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!damm right my holly is gonna cheat

I'm sorry but it's already fixed.

holly should gain corruption if she dates ian

Holly can increase her holly_change variable when having sex or otherwise interacting with Ian. She gets more confident and open about her desires.

 

[mommysboiii]

I'm sorry but it's already fixed.


Holly can increase her holly_change variable when having sex or otherwise interacting with Ian. She gets more confident and open about her desires.

it still will be 100% problematic in the future JoeSte91 made a great point with this

So, as far as the Holly route would go, it would be:

Good Ian + Good Lena = Pure Holly
Good Ian + Slut Lena = Corrupted Holly

I would also add that on pure holly route holly and ivy are not friends

and on corruption ivy and holly lena hang out

it will be a HUGE mess and it dosnet make any sens for ivy to hang out with boring pure holly or for a lena that will get deeper and deeper on the corruption path to hang out with book holly.


or for a CHANGED holly to not act corrupted in the future IF SHE HANGS OUT with corrupted lena and ivy otherwise it will be a mess form writting part

 

[fatpussy123]

why would ivy hang out with boring pure holly? why would ivy lena take pure holly to partys at all??? why would a lena that gets more and more and more mean and slutty like boring pure holly at all???.......

As it stands right now Lena is mainly in control of Hollys corruption if she encourages her to pole dance. If not Holly can barely be corrupted. But even if Holly is a part of the pole dancing lessons, holly_change variables are subject to the encouragement of Lena.

Lena would want and does want to hang out with Holly because she is a fan of her books and over the course of the story befriends her.

Ivy finds Holly cute and wants to corrupt her, but can not without Lena's approval. She wants to hang out with Holly for those reasons, but also because she'll hangout with any of Lena's friends, see Louise.

Lena can be the biggest cumdumpster, have the highest lust score, and have encouraged Holly to pole dance, and still Holly is not necessarily corrupted. It's possible right now in the game.

 

[ffive]

it still will be 100% problematic in the future JoeSte91 made a great point with this

This entire "problem" is self-invented, because these routes don't exist. That's what the poster you quote is wishing for, which is not what Eva is actually doing.

it will be a HUGE mess and it dosnet make any sens for ivy to hang out with boring pure holly or for a lena that will get deeper and deeper on the corruption path to hang out with book holly.

It's not a HUGE mess because none of this actually happens in the game. Ivy and Lena hang around with Holly who attends pole dancing classes. They can have some level of influence over her while at it. If Holly is with Ian then the amount of this influence is limited. If Holly isn't dating Ian then they can push her further into casual sex and suchlike.

Now, if at any point there's introduction of Lena/Ivy for some reason convincing Holly to cheat on Ian, it will be later down the road on this route, with Holly who is already at high _change level (as combination of Lena/Ivy influence and sex/relationship with Ian) As long as the player has pushed Holly to this point. And as such it would make sense, and won't suffer from the issues in this theoretical alternative approach, that has you freaking out.

 

[mommysboiii]

This entire "problem" is self-invented, because these routes don't exist. That's what the poster you quote is wishing for, which is not what Eva is actually doing.


It's not a HUGE mess because none of this actually happens in the game. Ivy and Lena hang around with Holly who attends pole dancing classes. They can have some level of influence over her while at it. If Holly is with Ian then the amount of this influence is limited. If Holly isn't dating Ian then they can push her further into casual sex and suchlike.

Now, if at any point there's introduction of Lena/Ivy for some reason convincing Holly to cheat on Ian, it will be later down the road on this route, with Holly who is already at high _change level (as combination of Lena/Ivy influence and sex/relationship with Ian) As long as the player has pushed Holly to this point. And as such it would make sense, and won't suffer from the issues in this theoretical alternative approach, that has you freaking out.

no the problem is that holly corruption is together with Ian/holly are dating that is the problem!!!!

its not a good idea to make this decission

It's not a HUGE mess because none of this actually happens in the game. Ivy and Lena hang around with Holly who attends pole dancing classes.

yep if ivy and lena corrupt her but if she is in a relationship with ian and everyone wants a (pure) holly this dosent make sens at all

. They can have some level of influence over her while at it.

they have complete influance over her she wants to try something new on the change/corruption path she looks up to ivy and lena and she wants to be like ivy and lena THE GOOD AND THE BAD incluce beaing slutty especially if lena and ivy will go deeper and deeper the more the story progress

As it stands right now Lena is mainly in control of Hollys corruption if she encourages her to pole dance.

again this should be the start of the corruption route beauce this means holly is going to CHANGE in the future and act more and more and more like ivy and lena .....

Lena would want and does want to hang out with Holly because she is a fan of her books and over the course of the story befriends her.

Ivy finds Holly cute and wants to corrupt her, but can not without Lena's approval. She wants to hang out with Holly for those reasons, but also because she'll hangout with any of Lena's friends, see Louise.

again as the story progress lena and ivy will get deeper and deeper drugs,billy partys,..........
it dosent make any sens if holly is NOT corrupted because she CANT get corrupted because of viable that holly/ian are dating to hang around them or to try to be like them or than ivy is at all interested in her.