Xupuzulla

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This is actually foreshadowing of where Ivy's training of Holly is heading. Instead of raising a bimbo and a direct competition she's instead training an obedient little loli. :whistle::coffee:
EK changing the game for the fetishists smh:cautious:
 
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robrize2169

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Jeremy is a fuckboi. he's also a selfish prick. if Ian has his eye on someone, then suddenly Jeremy wants to fuck them too. Lena..Allison..Emma..need i say more. he's not a good friend which is why i always make choices that reduce his friendship points, especially having both Ian and Lena advise Ivy not to fuck him. so fuck you Jeremy. go find your own bitches you clown.
oh and not to mention how he gives Ian cheap shots during their training at first. love to see Ian kick his ass during the tournament using take downs. but i also prefer the kickboxing style so Ian may not be able to beat Jeremy due to Jeremy having a reach advantage. need to fuck up his knees. a man can't stand..he can't fight..
 

SearingFive

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You can see Jeremy fumble with both versions of Jess, most of his dialogues and actions are loaded with insecurities at the bar. The only thing he's good at is scoring needy girls like Louise and Alison. As bad Jess summarised him perfectly within their short encounter “This guy is an idiot”.
 
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You can see Jeremy fumble with both versions of Jess, most of his dialogues and actions are loaded with insecurities at the bar. The only thing he's good at is scoring needy girls like Louise and Alison. As bad Jess summarised him perfectly within their short encounter “This guy is an idiot”.
Its my problem with him he naturally sucks at pulling actual chicks the player has to help him
 
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You can see Jeremy fumble with both versions of Jess, most of his dialogues and actions are loaded with insecurities at the bar. The only thing he's good at is scoring needy girls like Louise and Alison. As bad Jess summarised him perfectly within their short encounter “This guy is an idiot”.
hey! what (game) are your signatures from?
 

SearingFive

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Its my problem with him he naturally sucks at pulling actual chicks the player has to help him
hey! what (game) are your signatures from?
Ikr he's a nerd through and through from the inside, and tryharding with the playa mentality reeks of desperation. For me Jess was a litmus test for Jeremy and he failed on both. That really gives you an idea on how his pulling game is.

Those are my own renders and it's not from any games.
 

Gicoo

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Jeremy is a fuckboi. he's also a selfish prick. if Ian has his eye on someone, then suddenly Jeremy wants to fuck them too. Lena..Allison..Emma..need i say more. he's not a good friend which is why i always make choices that reduce his friendship points, especially having both Ian and Lena advise Ivy not to fuck him. so fuck you Jeremy. go find your own bitches you clown.
oh and not to mention how he gives Ian cheap shots during their training at first. love to see Ian kick his ass during the tournament using take downs. but i also prefer the kickboxing style so Ian may not be able to beat Jeremy due to Jeremy having a reach advantage. need to fuck up his knees. a man can't stand..he can't fight..
Yay, been a while until we had Jeremy bashing.

Anyways:
He doesn't make a move on Lena, Lena can make a move on him. Because she tells Ivy and Ivy quickly ropes her in and creates a scenario in which they end up getting close. Afterwards, its Lena who initiates.

Alison sents him a message after her breakup. Its indicated that she sent Jeremy before Ian, but even if not and even the fact that Ian is her first choice: She is fine settling with him for a fuckbuddy and so does he: He made it clear multiple times that he doesn't want a girlfriend.

With Emma, he only got interested after Ian encouraged him. Man, what a selfish, mean prick to try to steal Ians girls!!!

His actual low points are his behaviour with Louise (which she is also indicated to be partly blame), him not telling Wade, and him not telling Ian asap, though Lena only mingles with both of them on the if it remains casual with Ian, so there is no strict cheating.


Generally, Jeremy is one of the few proactive characters. He has interests and he makes a move. If it doesn't go well, then he moves on and doesn't sulk. Without him, Ian would be the only dude to fuck in this game (aside Lenas partners) and he is a much better initiator and motivator to Ian than Perry and Wade. Due to his role, he is secondary to successfull chad Ian, but even that isn't something that frustrates him, he is happy for Ian.
 

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but i also prefer the kickboxing style so Ian may not be able to beat Jeremy due to Jeremy having a reach advantage.
Honestly only reason I chose jiu-jitsu was height difference between Ian and any other athletic character (Jeremy and Axel) cuz that would suit Ian the most and get him far especially at self defense against same height or taller people since there's a fucking psycho cheater that'll chase you around who's over 6 feet.
 

DeemLeem12

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A wannabe fuck boi. For all the bragging he does about how easy it is to score chicks at the nightclub, he’s laughably pathetic when it actually comes to womanising.
I believe Jeremy was supposed to be a friendly fuckboi or womanizer but EK didn't want him to overshadow Ethan so it led to his character being deficient. Jeremy started out already having a girlfriend and him trying to hook up with Ivy, and Ivy was actually interested in him at the beginning. He can also hook up with Allison but in order to give Ethan a 'leg up' over Jeremy especially with him being more jacked and having a larger dick, Allison has to prefer Ethan over him and he became a second choice to her. He can also hook up with Emma but Ian has to be the one to tell Jeremy that it's possible to fuck her. As chapters go by, the plotting led to his character going into a downward spiral. I think this is one of EK's poor planning which resulted in another of Lena's potential male LI sucking ass.

Like I said before, EK initially planned ORS to be a more egalitarian game with likeable LI for each male and female MCs. I think that while EK planned for some themes to come, they planned for those to come later with proper development. It's actually astonishing how the initial chapters developed over time especially when you get a feel for the premise. But, if there's anything we can learn from GGGB, the developer really likes tacky things and that unfortunately sidetracked the initial plan. So many characters had better potential initially like Robert and Jeremy where they may have flaws, they could still be likeable with proper character or plot development. And now we have EK saying that Robert will have less involvement moving forward - and that's because the plot made him so undesirable. I think EK's kinks and fetishes could have had a more meaningful integration into the plot but, along with Patreon polls which has a major influence on the development, they only derailed and weakened the story and characters.

GRRM said that there are two writers: architects and gardeners. Architects plan most things in advance while gardeners let the story grow over time. Given the nature of multiple branching and Patreon polls, EK could have leaned more into being an architect. I really love playing multiple protagonists and wish their next game would be too but I wish there would be better planning to avoid development issues that EK is having like difficulty writing. If EK wants to enhance his gardening style instead, I also suggested the erotic scenes could be made in advance even if there was no proper writing or dialogue for them yet. If done well it has 3 benefits: 1. It could serve as an inspiration for possible plotting and help the story grow naturally 2. It could help EK be more efficient in the development since EK stated to have more difficulty writing as more branching happens and so a lot of their time could be spent more productively making art instead as better ideas come later on (see number one) 3. It could help them see which things work better than others, and the art could always be edited or reused later. How Patreon affects the story can also be improved. They could be less intrusive and relegated more to additional scenes or side plots.
 

ffive

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His actual low points are (...) him not telling Wade,
I'd argue if he actually did tell Wade, then people would be raging on him for being disloyal to his friend Ian and not choosing them over Wade (with the actual reason for hate being the fact his actions affected them negatively) :whistle:
 
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I believe Jeremy was supposed to be a friendly fuckboi or womanizer but EK didn't want him to overshadow Ethan so it led to his character being deficient. Jeremy started out already having a girlfriend and him trying to hook up with Ivy, and Ivy was actually interested in him at the beginning. He can also hook up with Allison but in order to give Ethan a 'leg up' over Jeremy especially with him being more jacked and having a larger dick, Allison has to prefer Ethan over him and he became a second choice to her. He can also hook up with Emma but Ian has to be the one to tell Jeremy that it's possible to fuck her. As chapters go by, the plotting led to his character going into a downward spiral. I think this is one of EK's poor planning which resulted in another of Lena's potential male LI sucking ass.

Like I said before, EK initially planned ORS to be a more egalitarian game with likeable LI for each male and female MCs. I think that while EK planned for some themes to come, they planned for those to come later with proper development. It's actually astonishing how the initial chapters developed over time especially when you get a feel for the premise. But, if there's anything we can learn from GGGB, the developer really likes tacky things and that unfortunately sidetracked the initial plan. So many characters had better potential initially like Robert and Jeremy where they may have flaws, they could still be likeable with proper character or plot development. And now we have EK saying that Robert will have less involvement moving forward - and that's because the plot made him so undesirable. I think EK's kinks and fetishes could have had a more meaningful integration into the plot but, along with Patreon polls which has a major influence on the development, they only derailed and weakened the story and characters.

GRRM said that there are two writers: architects and gardeners. Architects plan most things in advance while gardeners let the story grow over time. Given the nature of multiple branching and Patreon polls, EK could have leaned more into being an architect. I really love playing multiple protagonists and wish their next game would be too but I wish there would be better planning to avoid development issues that EK is having like difficulty writing. If EK wants to enhance his gardening style instead, I also suggested the erotic scenes could be made in advance even if there was no proper writing or dialogue for them yet. If done well it has 3 benefits: 1. It could serve as an inspiration for possible plotting and help the story grow naturally 2. It could help EK be more efficient in the development since EK stated to have more difficulty writing as more branching happens and so a lot of their time could be spent more productively making art instead as better ideas come later on (see number one) 3. It could help them see which things work better than others, and the art could always be edited or reused later. How Patreon affects the story can also be improved. They could be less intrusive and relegated more to additional scenes or side plots.
I think this is the smartest post I have read on this thread.
 

Gicoo

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I'd argue if he actually did tell Wade, then people would be raging on him for being disloyal to his friend Ian and not choosing them over Wade (with the actual reason for hate being the fact his actions affected them negatively) :whistle:
As of now, I don't see the purpose of having Jeremy discovering Ian and Cindy. He may be loyal to Ian by some weird definition I don't share, but he is scum to Wade. It may be plausible if he isn't close with Wade, but he got along very well with him when they hung out. If Ians friendship level is low, he doesn't share pics of Louise with him, but says Wade that he will tell him about that later (IIRC), so Wade is on a certain level of thrust.
It can only get a payoff if he finally tells Wade, but there is no implication that he does it. Even Ian ending his relationship with him in chapter 12 doesn't seem to provoke Jeremy. He is just getting out and leaves Ian to stew.

(Ivy discovering it has a payoff in chapter 11, when she tells Lena. Plus she is very liberal about relationships and fucking, so she may not find it outrageous enough, also she has no comparable relationship to Ian, Cindy and Wade.)
 

ffive

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As of now, I don't see the purpose of having Jeremy discovering Ian and Cindy.
It's possible that he might reveal it eventually if Ian decides to keep the affair ongoing. Or it's just something as simple as EK needed excuse for Ivy to show up in that alley, so having her go there with Jeremy who is established to try and score with her was reasonable.
 

Xupuzulla

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I believe Jeremy was supposed to be a friendly fuckboi or womanizer but EK didn't want him to overshadow Ethan so it led to his character being deficient.
I mean inst this obvious?
The npcs cant outshine the MCs,Evakiss cant make the self-inserters mad.
Jeremy destiny is to be always behind Ian,it is what it is.
 
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