dundun

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Perhaps our ideas of perfectly friendly differ a little :sneaky:
Thanks for the quotes :). But the first quote is right after Louise confronts Jeremy, the second shortly after when she is understandably angry about all the fallout. And for the third Lena is friendly with him before he brings up Louise as long their relationship is above 3.
I did just check the relationship points for Jeremy and Lena and this is only possible if she doesn't tell on Jeremy. So yes, you are right, that she is dimissive to Jeremy if she told Louise. But she is not if she didn't and you can still break them up at Ivy's game. So in this path Lena would be all over Jeremy as a third party for 'experimentation'. Just look at all the masturbation scenes.
 

ffive

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But she is not if she didn't and you can still break them up at Ivy's game. So in this path Lena would be all over Jeremy as a third party for 'experimentation'. Just look at all the masturbation scenes.
I actually didn't know that was an option too for the breakup thing. And when you said "Lena who didn't go for Jeremy" i was thinking along the lines of Lena who didn't pay any real attention to Jeremy and/or his cock and kept their interactions to basically minimum. So, yeah, Lena who interacts with Jeremy more and maybe has some fantasies about him, that's a setup that definitely makes him a more viable threesome candidate in her eyes.
 

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… It will also be interesting to see who the possible participants will be. In an FFM threesome my guess would be Ivy or Emma (I think everyone would be up for it—Ivy depending on her impression of Ian so far). Or alternatively Holly, but if the end goal is a relationship between the three of them, it might be more natural with some more emotional development before they jump straight to a threesome.

In an FMM threesome I guess the obvious candidate is Jeremy? Axel and Robert seem unlikely for different reasons, while Mike might not be out of the question. But if he can have fun with Lena alone, I doubt he'd be up for having Ian there too. Jeremy would jump at the possibility, probably Lena too, while Ian would go along for the same slightly ambivalent reasons he could say yes to the threesome with Alison, as well as watching all of Jeremy's videos.
Agree on everything.
 
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lucadiadis

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Not quite, i guess. I never went on this path because i always make Lena break up Jeremy and Louise in the beginning, but what make Lena refuse be in a relationship with is if fuck Jeremy in ch. 8 only, right? If yes, maybe is possible have a Lena and Ian being a "experimental" couple with Lena feeling atracted to Jeremy and his BBC (focus on him when watch he and Louise fucking, going until the end during truth or dare in Ivy's place, but resist to fuck him in ch. 8)? Just a hypothetical scenario that cross my mind
This is the scenario I have been waiting for all along.
 
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mommysboiii

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with release rate, one chapter per year it will take 10 years
lol nice joke my guess is 2026-2027 which would be ok for one of the best or the best visual novel that I ever played

I prefer one long VN with different kinks and roleplay the cheracter the way I want than 2 VN in the same time frame that are both half baked less story and no roleplay options.
 

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Plus, maybe for the sick thrill of fucking the guy she's been cheating on her bf with right in front of said boyfriend and without him knowing about this little detail.
Chapter 10 certainly proved that Lena has such an almost sadistic side. That sick thrill is probably the best strategy to persuade Mike as well (or, if she ended their affair because of Ian, as the only way to fuck her again). The way Lena plants the idea makes me think it will have an element of this either way, with Ian as the third wheel—similar to Louise’s role in the threesome in chapter 10.

The main difference between Jeremy and Mike in that sense would probably be that it’s easier to pretend otherwise with Jeremy: If Lena suggests Mike, it would be obvious that it’s because she wants to have sex exactly with him, while Jeremy could be framed as a candidate because he’s Ian’s friend and has a carefree nature.

Your discussion with dundun also highlights how many variables affect all of this—so I’m thinking Eva might try to write her way around some of those hindrances. Once it’s been hinted at as an upcoming event, it would be a bad idea to only make it available with some extremely specific conditions.

I also agree that Mark could be a candidate. It might be simpler to structure and write, but it would also lack some of the friction it would have with Mike or Jeremy, where there’s a lot of established dynamics in their relationships that can add to the scenes. We’ll see eventually!

There is not really an "another guy" option. Lena only suggests that if she rejects the idea of a threesome. And yes it depends on her choosing "threesome with 2 guys" at Ivy's party. I think Ian always reacting disgusted is king of a writing error if he just did the threesome with Alison and Jeremy though. So I think this threesome will always be FFM.
Thanks. I don’t think I got an option to reject the threesome, but that’s probably down to my previous choices then. It sounds plausible that we’ll first get an FFM threesome, and then the MMF will take some more time.

You’re also right about Louise as a candidate: I didn’t mention her because unlike Holly, Emma and Ivy she mostly has a connection with one of the characters, but as she’s almost like a pet to Lena it would still be very easy to make it happen.

I guess the different alternatives depend on what Eva wants to achieve with it: Emma would just be fun for three equal participants; Holly would also contain some emotional connection and/or help to push her further out of her comfort zone; Louise will be a submissive pet they can use to explore their kinky sides; while Ivy is the one who is likely to take charge herself, and where also Lena might risk becoming the third wheel, if Ivy feels like it and Ian goes along.
 

playboydx

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Anyone know how to get Ivy gym scene as Ian? Also how to trigger Ian's affair with Minerva since the remaster changed things.
 

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It did not work... Maybe i missed earlier something?
I chose photoshot with Sten.
I had the same problem despite always being nice to Stan. I replayed the game and made sure to always defend him in front of Louise (even if he wasn't present) and I didn't take money from him for the photoshoot. It worked.
 

ffive

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Ok, I have version 10.2, which says " v10.2 - Chapter 11 (Beta) "
But it stops exactly at the end of chapter 10. It shows chapter 11 logo and stops. No prologue, no anything, just "to be continued".
Technically this Prologue is an extension for Ch.10 and a bridge to Ch.11 which will follow it. The addition is a few extra scenes in Ch.10 after Seymour's photoshoot (or threesome with Louise and Jeremy)
 

ffive

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Then why it says "Chapter 11 (Beta)" if there is no chapter 11 and game ends at chapter 10?
Because it was posted at developer's page as "Chapter 11 - Prologue (Beta)". It's nowhere near completed (if am not mistaken it'll be released together with actual Ch.11, eventually) and there's really no point in stressing over the naming details. :whistle::coffee:
 
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