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What was the before and after about Lena learning Holly got fucked by Ian?
Apart from dialogue changes to make Lena seem less like an asshole (she used to be really mean to Ian), the consequences were changed too.

It used to be that Lena can still kiss and have sex with Holly even though Ian was in a relationship with Holly. Not to mention doing the threesome with Ivy too if Lena picked that option instead.

But now for Lena to do the threesome with Ivy and Holly, Ian needs to not be in a relationship with Holly (either by not having sex with Holly or breaking things off immediately after) and Lena (either by ignoring Lena or breaking things off).

That's the gist of it. I dont wanna write a whole essay because (i) Im not fully aware of all the details and (ii) I still have not managed to get the fabled Lena x Holly scene (assuming it's still in the game).
 

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If it's not another fix, then it might just be the old sprite, if it appears differently, because she actually increased it previously.
Yea you're right. It went from barely noticeable to really prominent beer belly. It was especially noticeable when Wade was wearing a blue shirt.

But now I hardly see it :unsure:.
 
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That's the gist of it. I dont wanna write a whole essay because (i) Im not fully aware of all the details and (ii) I still have not managed to get the fabled Lena x Holly scene (assuming it's still in the game).
1) I demand that you write an essay!
2) Lena/Holly:
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atrebor68

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Honestly not surprised that Eva is quick to change her face. You can tell Eva really wants Lena to be likeable to the fanbase. First she fixes Lena's reaction to Ian fucking Holly in ch 8, and now she fixes Lena's face.

But for once I actually like this change. Good to know.

On the topic of changes, did Eva Kiss reduce the size of Wade's belly for ch 9 or was it just me?
Mmmm, women are so cerebral, A LOT more than we males (food-sport-pussy). I think that Lena is the type of girl who EK dislike. I imagine Evakiss like Holly, or better, Eva designed Holly as her avatar. Following Holly's routes we'll discover the real Eva kinks ;-) .
 

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Mmmm, women are so cerebral, A LOT more than we males (food-sport-pussy). I think that Lena is the type of girl who EK dislike. I imagine Evakiss like Holly, or better, Eva designed Holly as her avatar. Following Holly's routes we'll discover the real Eva kinks ;-) .
Highly doubt it... No way Eva is seeing herself as Holly.
 
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CoalPhelps

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I am saying Axel, because Lena seems to enjoy being submitted. Who would you say is the proper guy for Lena? Stan? Mike? Ian? Seymour? Robert?
Long-term relationship is not only and not so much tied to the fact that the partner satisfies fetishes and makes you squirt. They will include life outside of bed, in which Axel, although quite successful and often wears the mask of a tough charismatic guy, is actually an asshole and manipulative sociopath. Seymour, while much more interesting, represents the same archetype, only in a much higher league. Robert is a boring, uninitiative hedonist without special hobbies and passion, not very smart and poorly erudite. Mike is very controversial, but from not so many dialogues it is clear that he is a completely accomplished person and can entertain Lena with a conversation. Perhaps if he finally has the courage to confess to his girlfriend, then he will be good material for a boyfriend. Too little is known about Stan so far. Ian — yes, the most ideal match for Lena, with the proviso that he is shaped by the player. But on pure path everything signals this with him: they always have a good time together, they always have the most interesting and long dialogues (well, even with Holly and usually with Seymour), in her thoughts it is constantly highlighted how she feels a lot with him more relaxed and more comfortable and does not feel the pressure that usually prevails over her, butterflies in her stomach, etc. It is also always highlighted how she likes to have sex with him and how she looks forward to the next time. I understand that this is the first and foremost porn game and for many it is too vanilla, but Ian is objectively the best possible guy available.
 

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I have made a gallery unlocker.
Just put "galleryunlocker.rpy" in the "game" folder and start the game.

Unfortunately I don't know how to to use function show image unless in game, so the selfie images will not unlock.
In that case I have modified the game gallery to enable all images/scenes in the gallery without needing any requirements.
Create a new folder called "scripts" in the "game" folder and put "gallery.rpy" inside of it.
In case you want back the normal gallery, just delete the folder/files
may i ask how to download this file?, usually when i click the file it goes straight to download but on yours it just goes to a new tab and open the file there without downloading it
 

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Hi everyone,

I have a separate save to get the ultimate outcome with Cindy (question in spoiler).
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Thanks!

PS: This game is one of the best.
 

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it's definitely a bug, I did a fresh playthrough focused on Alison while also getting with Holy so Alison and Jeremy never hooked up and Jeremy never said anything about a threesome, but out of nowhere Alison said that she met Jeremy and he proposed the idea of a threesome to her and that me and him already agreed on it, Bitch what? I never agreed on anything.
 

scor099

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I agree with everything you said, but, I could also say don't go with her to see what she does?
If she's really into having a long lasting relationship with Ian, she wouldn't go with Jeremy (in case she did). I think when people are in love, they don't/shouldn't do that. That would be a red line for me. Maybe we will know in the next chapters.

Anyway, I'm biased in this discussion. When I "refused" Allison in the first night and she went with Jeremy, I lost all interest in her. Woman that go out looking to get laid never picked my interest.
I mean it makes sense if your crush rejects you even when you're both single so I understand her going with Jeremy in the first night, also it make sense fap-wise? :unsure: to give players some Jeremy action.

on a side note : nice ass.
 
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dundun

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I imagine Evakiss like Holly, or better, Eva designed Holly as her avatar. Following Holly's routes we'll discover the real Eva kinks ;-) .
I am quite certain that it is Ian who EvaKiss identifies with most. He is a writer who also draws. And he is the actual main character of the game. We start the game with him and in the interactions with Lena he is the player character. His actions raise/lower their relationship points, Lenas doesn't. Lena mostly only ever reacts to him.
 

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I think it was for the best that Cindy didn't have the chance to answer Ian before Wade suddenly showed up. The situation gives her a lot to deal with, so it's only natural that she doesn't know exactly what she wants or feels yet.

However I don't agree that she sees Ian as a means to an end. She definitely craves attention and wants to feel desired, and Axel offers that, probably more than anyone else could. But I also think the chemistry between her and Ian is very clear. Ian's less successful than Axel, and looks less like someone "nazis made in a lab", but what he could offer that Axel doesn't, is a more genuine interest in Cindy. If you remember the dialogue in the back alley at the end of chapter 7, Cindy asks if she's "so unlikeable that I have to beg for people to go out partying with me". The confirmation that she's likeable and an interesting person is something Ian is way better suited to give than Axel. Axel is clearly written to be a threat to Ian's advantages towards Cindy, but if Ian plays his cards right, there's no way Cindy will choose Axel over him.
But it all depends on our choices, though, right? I can see a version of Cindy choosing Ian over Axel, for sure, just as I can see a version of Cindy choosing Axel over Ian, even if she gets burned like others before her. I'm not sure why stating this would upset some readers on here with very thin skin; not you personally. I think that there's definite, simmering sexual tension between Cindy and Ian, which is one of the highlights of the game, no question. What I don't see is a lot of chemistry between the two characters, relative to the chemistry between Ian and Lena, or Ian and Holly, for that matter. I see chemistry as being on the same psychological wavelength and having enough in common to get on well, regardless of sexual tension; I associate it with depth of interaction, too. That's all it is. I see Ian as a guy who can get complex about topics of interest, for instance, with the likes of Lena, Holly, and, in theory, even a more mature, experienced and redeemed Jessica. Cindy strikes me as too simple to care about any of that, at least where she finds herself currently in life. I love how she's been written, Cindy. I just don't see long-term romance as realistic between Cindy and Ian. It's just a matter of perspective.
 

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I mean it makes sense if your crush rejects you even when you're both single so I understand her going with Jeremy in the first night, also it make sense fap-wise? :unsure: to give players some Jeremy action.

on a side note : nice ass.
Sure, she wants to have some fun. The thing is, do you want to only have some fun with her too? Go ahead then. When I started playing this game I went for her and thought: "well it's a one night stand even if I want to go with Lena for the long run, there is nothing going on between the MC and her at that moment". But then the second "one night stand happened" and I as the player had no saying in it, not even in the MC thoughts. I started all over and avoided her. That brings a question for players that explore a lot: if I had continued with Allison and pursuing Lena, would I have the choice to end the adventure with Alison? If yes, when?

Still, when choosing what to do with Alison, and irl, the long friendship would also be at stake.
 
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