VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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BloodyMares

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Voltan17 said:
You clearly do not understand what I said. Replace Ian with Jeremy, and Jeremy with Ian in your post and that's how the game would look like if you switched main characters. Now you have nerd Jeremy trying to cover that up and be more manly, by working out and trying to get some and Ian, wannabe player trying to score left and right (which is something you can do in game anyway, because Ian as an MC does not have strong set character and is more of a blank slate) after his "devastating" first relationship where his girlfriend has cheated on him.
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Except we already have an NPC version of Ian (via Lena's POV), and he's nothing like a wannabe player that Jeremy is. Ian is first and foremost, a wannabe writer, who has a wide social network with his friends who he constantly interacts with, he has different ambitions (and struggles along the way) that define him. Sure, the heart-break might make him act more like a player, but he wouldn't be a jerk about it.

What do we gain with Jeremy as a protagonist? A typical protagonist of a porn game whose sole focus is to bang as many girls as possible, while also trying to win the MMA tournament. That's just not enough to make him compelling. Even if we get to the bottom of his insecurities, we still don't know his true aspirations, whether he likes anything beside sport, whether he has any good friends other than Ian and Billy, how does that friendship affect him (that has nothing to do with girl sharing). He's too cool for Perry and Wade, kinda ignores Emma (unless he wants to fuck her) and is kinda fixated on Ivy. If he was a player character, he'd probably get in contact with Axel, but then what? Where does his character go? What challenges does he face aside from Ivy cockblocking him from time to time? Does he face racism when trying to apply for jobs in a different field? So far, none of these questions have an answer. And without those answers, Jeremy wouldn't become a better character simply because you could play as him.
 
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BloodyMares said:
And without those answers, Jeremy wouldn't become a better character simply because you could play as him.
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Jesus Christ another one... Your post is completely pointless and I've already responded to it. All of those things you listed would be answered if Jeremy's characterization would be upgraded from npc status to mc status. As a writer, you could do that not just with Jeremy, but with every single character in the game.

BloodyMares said:
Ian is first and foremost, a wannabe writer, who has a wide social network with his friends who he constantly interacts with, he has different ambitions (and struggles along the way) that define him. Sure, the heart-break might make him act more like a player, but he wouldn't be a jerk about it.

What do we gain with Jeremy as a protagonist? A typical protagonist of a porn game whose sole focus is to bang as many girls as possible, while also trying to win the MMA tournament.
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Yes, one of those is designed to be mc and the other one to be npc. You could easily swap those roles and give us bigger insight into Jeremy's thoughts, past, give him more possible agency and character developement opportunities along the way to truly flesh him out and...

Nah, fuck it, I am done. I feel like I'm being in a loop, banging my head against a wall, trying to desperately tell people that Ian is better as an mc because he's written to be mc while Jeremy's characterization is worse and less complex because he's an npc. Which is by design. That's completely intentional. It applies to every single other character in the game except Lena. It's also something any competent writer could easily swap, if wanted.
 
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Damn- whoever made this "scene creator mod" is the enemy
Everyone is flooding the channel with crappy scenes :p

As for the person who said they'd rather play as Jeremy.
Body type- yes. Playing as tiny Ian is kinda a drag; but Ian's motivation, job ect ect are far more compelling. So its kinda a wash.
 
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