While I do not know how Eva will get it around Steam, maybe a 18+patch like so many japanese games do, I too think that Seymour is Lena´s biological father. There is a lot of byplay and throwaway lines over the current nine chapters and the already mentioned fact that Seymour is really loaded with money. He could get any model, both male and female, for his photo shots, but that it is Lena and Axel he wants is a bit too much of "pure chance".
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Yeah, I can no longer fully play GGGB after ORS and the other more "serious" visual novels on this site. It's still one of the best games of the genre in my opinion, but now it's more of a fapbase with good scenes than a full game, the non-sexy scenes have lost their charm. So I'll be really looking forward if Eva ever decides to remaster or remake her first game to see how her new style reflects in this, what she changes and adds.
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I don't particularly care for soap opera style stories a lot of games on here have (like the DIK game). And wish more games would be like GGGB where there's a lot of sex scenes paced well. GGGB is more than that though, the choice and consequences are done really well and there are so many paths to explore. My perfect game really, except for the art style. I do really like ORS too, so far it hasn't been too heavy on the characterization or story and the scenes are still well paced.
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That's cool, I respect your tastes, my man. As I wrote once before, I just like games with porn elements rather than porn with game elements (some might argue that the visual novel/interactive movie genres are even games and how much gameplay there has to be for it to be called a game, but fuck that). So I didn't like adult games until I was introduced to GGGB.
And my alternate explanation fulfills the reason just as much as bio-father. Not pure chance either. While some creators do a patch, I really don't see Eva going that route. I'd bet that Seymour will be, at best, the once potential step-daddy that was never meant to be.
(The whole 'If he couldn't possess her mom all those years ago, he'll possess her spitting image now').
I will give that Eva can *potentially* make the question of who is the father (between Seymour and the man he destroyed) open-ended at the end of development, with vague enough hints to get past the sensors and with deft enough writing to satisfy the reader. But I'm leaning towards her not going that way due to both the ban risk and challenge of craft.
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I hope so. I also liked the new interaction at the bar when Axel and the others think Jeremy acts like an idiot. It's far from an redemption arc, but at least it shows that his player persona isn't always working the way he expects it to.
I think what we first and foremost disagree on, is how much you can expect from the other part in Ian's and Lena's situation without it having been talked about directly.
At the stage they are in getting to know each other, you don't know what the other person feels about you, and at the same time you're trying to figure out your own feelings. But what I think they can feel pretty certain about, is that the other person is somewhere in the same process, even though that's obviously way more subjective than talking about it straighforwardly.
If you're socially unintelligent, you're more likely to misinterpret those situations—like Louise, who completely misses on her judgement of Jeremy's feelings, or Robert, who thinks he's got a chance with Lena even though nothing she says or does suggests it's anything more than casual sex. But Lena and Ian are both way more attentative and socially intelligent, and have reason to put more trust in that implicit mutual understanding of what's going on between them. That social intelligence is also why they both accept it when they find out about Robert and Cherry—they know they can't demand that the other person is loyal to them yet, even though they don't like it when they find out about it.
But on that spectrum between complete loyalty and being completely free to do whatever you want, I think they're already at a point where they can expect the other person to consider their potential feelings. And on the list of things that could hurt the other person's feelings, sleeping with their best friend should be pretty high up by default. Ian's got no reason to think that Lena's actions were malicious, but he's certainly got, in my view, reason to think her actions were extremely inconsiderate. To the degree that if he ever finds out, the game needs to offer a choice for him to get completely pissed off at both of them.
I don't think one person's reaction should decide how another person should react in a similar situation, but Louise's judgement in that situation was anyway very clouded. She was very drunk, and had lost control of the situation to the others, led by Ivy, to the extent that her insecurity made her not even consider the option to stop the whole thing. I think she accepted it because the only other alternative she saw, was to let her nemesis give the blowjob instead.
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If the final is taking this long is it safe to assume that some extra art illustrations will be added ?
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Well, ..........
Might I point out that, as of now, they didn't have sex? They might very well never have
Age wise it fits, Seymour is 55, Lena's mom is 50.
And there is the big mystery why he is so interested in her. That would be an explanation.
And the three of them coincidally meet at one street corner? That is not a red string, that is a whole ball of string.
It is clearly not meditated. The bum doesn't recognize Lena so he didn't plan it and Seymour is surprised when he recognizes him, so neither did he.
So it would not explain Seymour's interest in Lena. Admittedly he does fits age wise, being the same age as Seymour.
Also there is Ian's mom, who might have cheated on Ian's dad. Who is in finances. Who might know Seymour....... Now that would a interesting thought to hold
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Where is this Seymour Lena daddy theory coming from? It's possible I missed something, but was there anything about Seymour and Lena's mom even knowing each other? If not, I don't see why this would be any more likely than the more straightforward power tripping 1%er taking what he wants.
You might be right, but we don't know for sure. For example, look at Holly. She was introduced as a prim and proper girl, but she's starting to loosen up (on some routes). Holly has changed a lot since the beginning of the story, she's not the same shy, innocent and prudish girl anymore. Her style has changed, she goes to nightclubs, buys sex toys, casually French kisses her friends in public, does threesomes and sends naughty photos to Mark (a random fuckboy she just met and has nothing in common with her). Also, her interaction with the bouncer is kinda sus... The player's choices can radically affect the course of the story and Holly is an example of that.
The game is only half-way done. We can speculate all we want, but nothing is set in stone yet. Only Eva knows where the story will go.
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It's coming from incest enthusiasts. I don't think he's her father. He's interested in her like he could be interested in a painting or whatever
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Here's the final version for the Remastered 9 chapters of ORS!
After working so intensively and for such a long time, it's hard for me to get perspective on the finished product, but that's always the case. I still feel so many things could've been improved, and I would've liked to be much more thorough, but this rework has taken far too long as it is. Once again, thank you for your patience.
I know most of you would've preferred for me to skip this rework, or keep it a lot shorter, and move on with the story and Chapter 10. I share that feeling... A rework doesn't bring much new to the table, and it isn't especially fun for me to do, it's been quite a chore, honestly. But there were a few glaring issues I could not ignore, some things I needed to fix before moving forward and so much wasted potential. In the end it took too long, it hurt the game's momentum and I even lost a month of revenue (by choice), but I believe it's all been worth it.
I feel the game is more solid and polished now, closer to what it should and could be. The experience is mostly the same, but it's internal structure has been improved, the mechanics better implemented, the visual presentation enhanced and the soundtrack expanded. I did some subtle tweaks to the pacing, dialogue and character interactions, expanded on scenes and opportunities that offered more potential and that sort of thing. I'm attaching a change log for those who are curious about the stuff that has been added, tweaked or changed.
Some aspects are still a bit rough around the edges, like the Agenda, and I have in mind a few small things I still want to add or improve, but first I want to hear about your feelings and opinions about this new release. Also I want to thank Lara, BloodyMares and TheDarkFable for their help and support with the technical issues, revisions, and improvements to my workflow. The project has gotten so big it would be impossible for me to do it on my own!
I hope you find the remastered ORS even prettier and more charming that it originally was, and hopefully I will give you all that new content you wanted to get in the next Chapter. Work has already started on it!
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No, it is solely based on the fact that Lena's dad is not her biological dad.
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Gotcha, thanks for sharing either way! If you come across a working one, do you mind sharing?
Point #1. Regarding incest content, sure, they haven't had "sex" yet. But I'm fairly certain Seymour demanding a daughter strip nude & insert an orgasm machine into her vag which he controls from the couch till she squirts all over the floor wouldn't pass Steam's prohibited content sniff-test either.Well, ..........
Might I point out that, as of now, they didn't have sex? They might very well never have
Age wise it fits, Seymour is 55, Lena's mom is 50.
And there is the big mystery why he is so interested in her. That would be an explanation.
And the three of them coincidally meet at one street corner? That is not a red string, that is a whole ball of string.
It is clearly not meditated. The bum doesn't recognize Lena so he didn't plan it and Seymour is surprised when he recognizes him, so neither did he.
So it would not explain Seymour's interest in Lena. Admittedly he does fits age wise, being the same age as Seymour.
Also there is Ian's mom, who might have cheated on Ian's dad. Who is in finances. Who might know Seymour....... Now that would a interesting thought to hold
Point #2. I think you misunderstood me. I could have probably been more clear. I don't think the bum as potential-ex-rival/potential-father is Seymour's main motivation. That potential motivation only relies on her mother, if it turns out Seymour was in fact interested in or involved with her. So I wasn't suggesting whatsoever that the street corner meet was planned. If said bum actually does turn out to be her father, which I'm merely speculating on, I find it more likely than not that he doesn't know she's his daughter yet. But the resemblance to her mother would likely be both intriguing and haunting to him, giving him a pause as shown in the scenes he's featured in. I take the bum = dad as more speculative vs a Seymour wounded by Lena's mom. Still, in any story at least somewhat following standard writing conventions, every insert has a purpose. And the language/tone of both bum encounters seemed to hint at something more than a mere opportunity for Lena's character development or Seymour's back-story. That's why the suspicion popped out at me. He'll be a key part of the story later I'm sure, regardless of any potential genetic link.
"Whole ball of string": That is actually my largest gripe with the ORS plotline so far, which pops up over and over again, & why I call the Red String a Deus/Diabolas Ex Machina (which in general is a horrible plot device). There are already far too many convenient meetings that make the world feel small, as if there are only 40 or so people living in the entire city, which the Red String theme too easily explains away.
Given the set-up in Chapters 1-8, I personally thought the best writing for the situation would be a fake-out, where Seymour did not, in fact, find Lena special at all, and simply had a long history of breaking seemingly strong, beautiful young women after elevating them up to feel special and powerful. Likely as a way to get misplaced revenge on a long and dormant wound received by his mother, a lost love interest or a powerful yet un-reciprocated love. Written well, that could have the weight of an anvil to the head. But given the way Chapter 9 has fallen into place, I don't think it's possible to write that plot-twist any longer due to the extreme lengths Seymour has gone to in order to possess Lena. So jilted suitor or ex-lover of Lena's mom is the most likely scenario.
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Seymour will use Lena against the Mayor. This is the best theory i have read on this thread. The whole thing of the wild cats (is that the correct name?) being a prostitution ring.