VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Doppelgang]

I don't recall specifics, but just be generally disrespctful.

I like your dedication to give an answer, even thought the question was asked more than three months ago

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

There wasn't a single rule dictating logic behind POV switches, it's decided by the plotlines featured in each chapter. Only Chapters 2, 3, 4, 7, and 8 have multiple switches. Chapters 1, 5, 6, and 9 have entire Ian's POV followed by Lena's POV until the end of the chapter. You can even count Chapter 2 as a linear Ian-to-Lena switch because the last Ian's POV part had nothing to do with Lena's decisions (aside from a couple of lines here and there referencing how their date went) and is mostly about meeting with Alison and Cherry. As a rule, it's very rare when Ian has to deal with Lena's decisions in the same chapter. Most often Ian starts the actual choices that impact the chapter, and then Lena reacts to them. Ian mostly reacts to Lena's choices that come from previous chapters.

Ah. That makes sense. I know both Ian and Lena's choices affected each other's paths in the same chapter from remembering various chapter's playthroughs, but didn't realize not all chapters worked that way. You'd know best, having worked on the guide for so long.

 

[Night Hacker]

why you cuck guys want put cuck stuff in every game.

Just to bug YOU! Heck, I am creating a VN and I plan to make sure it is in there just to bother people like you.

 

[lipe2410]

then go play the cuck games, don't try to turn every game into a cuck game.

Since the beginning this game has a setup for cuckold with Ian being able to ask Jeremy for photos/videos of him (Jeremy) fucking Alison if players choose it. Not my thing by far, that's why i avoid it, but you rant against "cuck stuff" in a game that already have it doesn't make much sense.

 

[neutral1]

The thing that I imagine could be counterproductive for Eva with releasing Ian's part first and then Lena's part is that she might find when she is working on Lena's part of the story that she might have a new idea and want to change something on Ian's side of the story as the two go hand in hand. If she has already released Ian's part, it limits her ability to be able to make these changes unless of course she does another remaster or makes these changes in the final release of the chapter. I fear this release structure she has proposed will interfere with her creative process and put further restrictions on her writing and development of the chapters in the future. I hope I am wrong, but I think having the creative freedoms and fluidity to make changes to the writing of the chapter anytime before the chapter release is important for the writer's vision of the project, especially for someone like Eva who many have said use the gardening method in her writing.

The cynic in me sees an Ian update in the same cycle - alpha/beta/final? But before Lena's section comes out, there will be an Ian rewrite release.

 

[evilkitty97]

I love Netori(taking others' partner).
Cindy in this game's case is the Netori path.
An amazing plus too because she is truly gorgeous and slender. Not much slender beauties in the game, unlike GGGB.

Dont know about you guys, but Ian isnt technically a cuckold in the game yet.
Because he isnt officially a thing with anyone.
Except that last part with Lena.

I wish there was a path wherein you dont have to do the photoshoot in order to be with Cindy, that was one hell of a chaotic mix of Netori and Netorase(sharing), which got me confused AF.

In fact, everything is mixed up in the game.
The relationships, the feelings, the kinks.
Its not as simple and direct as GGGB is.

 

[Eye-switcher]

To be fair we don't know what end result of the split is going to be, i doubt even the developer knows yet.
It might work out just fine, but end result is still an unfinished update and more delays.
Looking at the whole picture from the revamp (like it or not, worth it or not) until the unfinished split its really alooot of waiting which makes the whole game suffer and the developer to loose goodwill. Don't know if it hurts financially as her supporters seem to pay no matter what but in a lot of other businesses it certainly would.

 

[Badboll]

I don't really see how releasing Ian's part first is supposed to go in the way of fluidity

I don't think it will when everything is released. I don't see how that would happen.
Sure I'd rather have an alpha of the whole chapter at once, but I don't mind a part 1 earlier and a part 2 later.
I'm still probably getting the whole chapter 10 when I was supposed to anyway.
I mean getting her supporters some content earlier is by no means bad for her financially I don't think.
Even if most of the comments i saw on patreon said they'd rather she release everything at once.
It gets tough to release in a timely manner when you go full chapters at once. Especially when they get bigger. Which is why most devs don't and when they have and change to smaller updates the game suffers for some reason. (The Adventurous Couple is one that comes to mind)

 

[mr.hong]

Did Jeremy make Alison creampied? Their conversation in threesome video probably means Jeremy cum inside last time(maybe Ch7 video)

 

[TheBigWater]

why you cuck guys want put cuck stuff in every game.

NTR fans, like Jehovah's Witnesses, run from one thread to another and promote their weird stuff where they are not expected and not welcome

Oh, IDK, Probably for the same reason you want the things you like in a game. TO JERK OFF TO IT!

Seriously. Its not rocket surgery around here.

then go play the cuck games, don't try to turn every game into a cuck game.

Does it mean playing sex games or watching porn is making people cuck? Because you are not the one that you are fcking, you are the one that's watching it.
I mean i know what you wanted to say guys but in my save Lena is not with Ian so i can't see where "cuck" theme is there. In my playthrough Ian is with Holly and is "brother from another mother" with Jeremy. If i had a chance to send to Jeremy video where Ian is fcking Holly i would do that for my bro Jeremy because he did the same for me lol. There are already scene's where Jeremy is sending Alison pics to Ian. I don't understand why it's okay but if that would be Lena it's not okay

 

[JohnnyKiss]

then go play the cuck games, don't try to turn every game into a cuck game.

This is a cuck game, tho? There literally is a "NTR" tag...

 

[BlandChili]

It's whatever kind of game you want it to be.

I'd argue ORS isn't the most optimal game for cuckoldry, but the content is there if you like to choose it.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Does it mean playing sex games or watching porn is making people cuck? Because you are not the one that you are fcking, you are the one that's watching it.
I mean i know what you wanted to say guys but in my save Lena is not with Ian so i can't see where "cuck" theme is there. In my playthrough Ian is with Holly and is "brother from another mother" with Jeremy. If i had a chance to send to Jeremy video where Ian is fcking Holly i would do that for my bro Jeremy because he did the same for me lol. There are already scene's where Jeremy is sending Alison pics to Ian. I don't understand why it's okay but if that would be Lena it's not okay

Here I partially agree with you, the path with Jeremy that you described is not cuckold, it's more like "sharing girls for sex". They are friends with benefits, but not couples.
We all know the definition of a cuckold. A man who gives his wife/girlfriend to other men and enjoys it. The psychology of considering cuckold fetishism as a variant of masochism when a cuckold takes pleasure in humiliation. At the same time, unlike "open relationships", cuck doesn't have the right to have affairs with other women.
I want to say right away - I have nothing against games that have a cuckold theme - I just bypass them. If there is an optional NTR in the game (in the understanding of the cuck, I don’t mind stealing someone else’s girl) - I will bypass it. Judging by the reactions to my post, which turned out to be controversial.
I wrote about some individuals who love this genre. They are really too intrusive and love to get into the thread with their fantasies "I want to watch Lena get fucked by Axel, Ian looks, jerks off and can't do anything" It's a little creepy and weird, isn't it? [Louise Mod Activated]
At the moment, there is no full-fledged NTR cuckolding for Ian in the game. But knowing Eva, she will most likely add this.

 

[Night Hacker]

Since the beginning this game has a setup for cuckold with Ian being able to ask Jeremy for photos/videos of him (Jeremy) fucking Alison if players choose it. Not my thing by far, that's why i avoid it, but you rant against "cuck stuff" in a game that already have it doesn't make much sense.

Nah, that's not cucking unless Ian and Jeremy are a couple. It's just normal friends bragging about their female conquests. I haven't seen any cucking in this game. Cheating, but that's not the same.

 

[alexferno]

Here I partially agree with you, the path with Jeremy that you described is not cuckold, it's more like "sharing girls for sex". They are friends with benefits, but not couples.
We all know the definition of a cuckold. A man who gives his wife/girlfriend to other men and enjoys it. The psychology of considering cuckold fetishism as a variant of masochism when a cuckold takes pleasure in humiliation. At the same time, unlike "open relationships", cuck doesn't have the right to have affairs with other women.
I want to say right away - I have nothing against games that have a cuckold theme - I just bypass them. If there is an optional NTR in the game (in the understanding of the cuck, I don’t mind stealing someone else’s girl) - I will bypass it. Judging by the reactions to my post, which turned out to be controversial.
I wrote about some individuals who love this genre. They are really too intrusive and love to get into the thread with their fantasies "I want to watch Lena get fucked by Axel, Ian looks, jerks off and can't do anything" It's a little creepy and weird, isn't it? [Louise Mod Activated]
At the moment, there is no full-fledged NTR cuckolding for Ian in the game. But knowing Eva, she will most likely add this.

Nah, that's not cucking unless Ian and Jeremy are a couple. It's just normal friends bragging about their female conquests. I haven't seen any cucking in this game. Cheating, but that's not the same.

Depending on your choices, Ian can also have a voyeuristic kink and asks Jeremy to send pictures of him fucking Alison/Emma/Louise? and masturbates to those pictures.
Cheat‌ing, NTR and Cuckolding are different things. NTR revolves around the idea of a loved one being stolen through sex. Cuckolding is consensual and desired by the cuck.

 

[Tiago Patrício]

Any news?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Nah, that's not cucking unless Ian and Jeremy are a couple. It's just normal friends bragging about their female conquests. I haven't seen any cucking in this game. Cheating, but that's not the same.

Disagree here. It's not 100% cuckolding in the technical sense. But Ian repeatedly getting off to watching a huge-dicked friend dicking down a girl he likes and has the hots for is cuck-lite at the very least. Extremely on-theme for that sort of fetish. It's kind of in the ballpark of someone claiming not to be gay for licking the occasional nut but never going full-blown anal.

 

[Night Hacker]

Depending on your choices, Ian can also have a voyeuristic kink and asks Jeremy to send pictures of him fucking Alison/Emma/Louise? and masturbates to those pictures.
Cheat‌ing, NTR and Cuckolding are different things. NTR revolves around the idea of a loved one being stolen through sex. Cuckolding is consensual and desired by the cuck.

According to Wikipedia: "Cuckold: Husband of an adulterous wife"
According to Merriam-Webster: "Cuckold: a man whose wife is unfaithful"

So no, it doesn't apply to Ian and Jeremy. Doesn't apply to anyone in this game. Both NTR and cuck's seem to be the same and basically consentual where usually the guy likes his wife fooling around on him. None of them refer to friends sharing pics of their female conquests.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

According to Wikipedia: "Cuckold: Husband of an adulterous wife"
According to Merriam-Webster: "Cuckold: a man whose wife is unfaithful"

So no, it doesn't apply to Ian and Jeremy. Doesn't apply to anyone in this game. Both NTR and cuck's seem to be the same and basically consentual where usually the guy likes his wife fooling around on him. None of them refer to friends sharing pics of their female conquests.

That's why I said not 100% on technical definition in my post. But this is surely in the ballpark for those into such a fetish.

 

[Night Hacker]

That's why I said not 100% on technical definition in my post. But this is surely in the ballpark for those into such a fetish.

Sorry, no disrespect intended, but I strongly disagree. They're not a couple, just friends sharing pics of their female conquests. It simply doesn't quality, not even close, I mean, heck, they're both males and not even close to married.