What is exactly what I said in my former post. That it is in the eye of the beholder how we see several characters in ORS, because we all play the game differently. The member I discussed with had a run with a nice Cindy, while the Cindy in my run was a person you could be glad she is someone else´problem.
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- Jul 10, 2017
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Cindy keeps her so called BF because of his activities. That is it. He is her purse.
She can then parade his activity around.
Axel being her go to gold to dig, Seymour being the future of Axel,
She has the same attitude Jeremy has: me am God”s gift to anyone falling for me.
So yeah, she likes to be available but pretend she has someone,
just because a hussy loner babe is not that good of a rep,
not while Jeremy keeps sfinctering everyone he gets his grabby molesting hands on.
She can then parade his activity around.
Axel being her go to gold to dig, Seymour being the future of Axel,
She has the same attitude Jeremy has: me am God”s gift to anyone falling for me.
So yeah, she likes to be available but pretend she has someone,
just because a hussy loner babe is not that good of a rep,
not while Jeremy keeps sfinctering everyone he gets his grabby molesting hands on.
- Aug 19, 2018
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And that makes it NTR... How?
Let's say my Ian isn't romantically interested in Alison — then how can it even be considered NTR if they have nothing more than friendship and he doesn't give two shits about who she's fucking or dating?
There can't be an NTR in this whole situation, but since you think there is one here, it's all your fault because of your choices. If you're interested in Allison, just make your move. If not, then it shouldn't be an issue at all. Same with the rest of the girls. Emma — he only hooks up if you're encouraged him, so the point of complaining if you told him yourself almost literally "go ahead, bro, fuck her." Lena — this only happens at all thanks to a chain of your choices. Ivy — at this point she and Ian aren't interested in each other and they're not even friends.
I don't even like Jeremy, but your accusations in his direction are just baaah.
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Well, yeah, but it's too far-fetched. Usually there are some indicators one way or another of where your choices will lead and what path you're taking. I mean, ORS is not the kind of game where in Chapter 1 you pick "Jerk off" instead of "Work on a book" and because of that in Chapter 9 Van Dykes locks you in the basement of their cafe and you get gangbanged by Jeremy and Billy as Marcellus Wallace until Stan the Man comes to Ian's rescue in his infamous school shooting trench coat.
- Nov 15, 2020
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Get back in ur cave and hibernate !!!! FFS
- Oct 1, 2017
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I see the updates are pretty much dead. 10 days since the last one. 
- Feb 7, 2018
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Yeah. I was just re-emphasizing your point, not disagreeing. The statement was directed elsewhere.
I never did the route where you try to fix Wade x Cindy, but she does come across as high maintenance in all routes I've tried. Maybe not very high maintenance, but definitely one of those girls. The other guy jumped at you to defend her honor, I guess, but her character is canonically written to be a bit high maintenance. She is a bit spoiled. On the posh side. A bit selfish. An attention seeker. But all of these to a not quite pathological degree.
What Night Hacker probably didn't consider is that you can be a bit high maintenance and still be a good person/girlfriend. My ex is a bit like that. People are not so black and white. People have strenghts and flaws to various degrees. The Wade x Cindy relationship is such a nuanced depiction of a couple that is slowly stagnating. They both contribute to it, and you can empathize with both of them. It's some good writing.
My Grandfather always said that a relationship is on a good road if both love each other DESPITE their flaws, less just BECAUSE they love each other. And I agree with him. Only if you can accept or shoulder the flaws you see in your spouse it has the chance to grow long and old. Because in rough times, how we handle our flaws has more impact than just our love. The flaws (real or imagined) are the sandpaper, how you both deal with it makes or breaks a relationship.
- Dec 25, 2019
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Dead game 10 months since new update and ppl still supporting her and defend her miliking lmao. Updates cycle passed from 1-2 months to 3=4 to 10 months and counting. The miliking Is real and (sadly because It was great) this game Is dead
- Dec 26, 2020
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Is that true? i'm starting to lose hope and frankly get frustated for not getting any update for so long.
According to dev's undate news, It will be updated in 2022. Maybe....?
- May 2, 2017
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yep , some supporter is foolish .
i'm support her since GGGB ....
But now I feel that eva manages the development time. The past few months have been noticed to be spent mostly playing around and asking friends or other developers to fix their work for help periodically. until the moment eva starts to get serious about work Why not succeed? For example, "Your boss ordered the work to be completed within 4-5 months. But you started working really hard. in the past 2 months And the result was not smooth and lost a lot of credit.”
- Mar 10, 2019
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A thought about the latest poll and the endless discussion about the "supporting/simping/milking" debate:
What is the actual downside of releasing the Ian part early?
- It would satisfy at least some of the people that are complaining about the long wait. After the release there would be less of that but still some debate if the update is good or not. However the latter can't be stopped anyway and those people are always going to complain.
- It might encourage some people to re-up their patronage who have been discouraged over the last couple of months.
- And for those who want a complete update with both the Ian and Lena part very little changes. They still have to wait. Probably a couple of months + a few weeks that the release of the Ian-part would take up (which as EK mentioned is mostly done anyway, it would just require some polish to make it playable in an Alpha state, although I would think that it could be released with the caveat that old saves won't work untill the full release).
Nothing changes for those who want to wait for the full release as long as they are disciplined enough to not play the "half-release", it might even result in a better experience the the Ian part could already be revised/improved through feedback.
What is the actual downside of releasing the Ian part early?
- It would satisfy at least some of the people that are complaining about the long wait. After the release there would be less of that but still some debate if the update is good or not. However the latter can't be stopped anyway and those people are always going to complain.
- It might encourage some people to re-up their patronage who have been discouraged over the last couple of months.
- And for those who want a complete update with both the Ian and Lena part very little changes. They still have to wait. Probably a couple of months + a few weeks that the release of the Ian-part would take up (which as EK mentioned is mostly done anyway, it would just require some polish to make it playable in an Alpha state, although I would think that it could be released with the caveat that old saves won't work untill the full release).
Nothing changes for those who want to wait for the full release as long as they are disciplined enough to not play the "half-release", it might even result in a better experience the the Ian part could already be revised/improved through feedback.
- Apr 25, 2020
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The downside is if you follow the game (discord/forums) you have to unfollow it to avoid spoilers for a few months
- Jun 24, 2017
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Why wouldn't old saves work? There are only 2 situations when an older save won't work.
1. A new chapter is released, you play the alpha version and save at the end. Time goes on, another chapter is released and you try to use your alpha save, without thinking that the final version might have changed something.
2. Let's say that you have a save for chapter 9, but Eva announces that she had to change something that happened in a previous chapter(ch7). In this case, the variables from your save file won't be compatible with the new ones, hence, old saves won't work.
So yeah, unless you try to use a pre-remastered save, your files should work.
Something does change. It's not a matter of discipline for those that don't want to play the first part. I am sure quite a few people would be capable of that. It's more a matter of discipline for everyone else, to not discuss about the new content. In the end, you need to choose: live under a rock until Lena part is release and avoid everything (patreon, discord, this thread) or play the new release.
Anyway, it doesn't matter what are the pros and cons of releasing Ians part first. The people have voted and unless Eva will say in the next progress update (those posts should be renamed from weekly into progress) that she's going to release it anyway, we won't see any new content in the near future.
Man, Eva really fucked up with that poll. Allowing a certain group of patreons (those that want to wait for both Ian's and Lena's POVs) to gatekeep content for the other one (those that want content asap) is one of the stupidest things I've seen. It's like a kindergarden level of what you should never, ever do as an author.
There is objectively no reason to do it, as people who don't want their content split for this one (and only one) particular update, could simply wait for the whole thing. If I was a patreon, and she decided to follow the results from that vote - I would unsub immediately while also saying "fuck you" to anyone who voted against the release.
There is one thing when you have to wait for something, because the author you are paying money to is taking his/hers time to do the job. It can be annoying, but you are dealing ONLY WITH THE PERSON YOU ARE PAYING MONEY TO. But being denied content/value for your money, because of other subscribers' decision, that you do not give a fuck about - is a completely different matter.
Seems like she's fucking up not just on the writing/project handling side, but also her business side. We'll see if there are some significant consequences if she decides to not release Ian's part separately, but fuck me if it's not a huge risk she took for no reason whatsoever.
There is objectively no reason to do it, as people who don't want their content split for this one (and only one) particular update, could simply wait for the whole thing. If I was a patreon, and she decided to follow the results from that vote - I would unsub immediately while also saying "fuck you" to anyone who voted against the release.
There is one thing when you have to wait for something, because the author you are paying money to is taking his/hers time to do the job. It can be annoying, but you are dealing ONLY WITH THE PERSON YOU ARE PAYING MONEY TO. But being denied content/value for your money, because of other subscribers' decision, that you do not give a fuck about - is a completely different matter.
Seems like she's fucking up not just on the writing/project handling side, but also her business side. We'll see if there are some significant consequences if she decides to not release Ian's part separately, but fuck me if it's not a huge risk she took for no reason whatsoever.
- May 2, 2017
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Let release chapter 10 in 2023 eva Good luck
Sooo when the next update comes out this game is a zombie?!?
Since each chapter makes the game more complex (more choices = more routes/possibilities/outcomes), the workload goes up. So the developer needs more time to finish. Alternatives being the chapters become shorter each time (not desirable) or Eva hires people to help with the game. That only works out for her if her patron numbers significantly go up (otherwise she loses money) and bears the risk they don't work well together.