Bishop Robert

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That the problem with Robert, he has zero redeeming qualities, in comparsion to Mike for example, he is worse in bed, has no personality, has no kink like Mike(has gf cheating), nothing to spice things up, all he cares about is scoring with the model, Eva should have given him either good personality or associated some fetish to him to make him relevant in any way, when even protagonist without your input says that Robert is nothing special, why even bother with him?
Imagine if Robert was a sub in bed for example, while Mike is a dom choice, that would atleast make him interesting in some way since Lena is obviously a switch(Louise content vs Axel).
One of the scenes where Lena ends it with him and gives the “I thought there was more between us!” or whatever shtick I was thinking to myself holy crap this guy is the worst. This is the only game I can think of where such a character exists.

I will say I’m curious as to what his endings are exactly when we get there.
 

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One of the scenes where Lena ends it with him and gives the “I thought there was more between us!” or whatever shtick I was thinking to myself holy crap this guy is the worst. This is the only game I can think of where such a character exists.

I will say I’m curious as to what his endings are exactly when we get there.
The game tries for realism, so that why we rarely see something like that i guess, he is just too average imo, every other love interest has something to them, even boring Holly has "i'm new to those things and want to try stuff" shtick, Robert is just a dude and a pretty dense at that too.
 

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The game tries for realism, so that why we rarely see something like that i guess, he is just too average imo, every other love interest has something to them, even boring Holly has "i'm new to those things and want to try stuff" shtick, Robert is just a dude and a pretty dense at that too.
You find Holly boring? I enjoy her and like being able to twist the innocent into something else. And she has glasses.

Hell you know what would help Robert? Not having a generic look (not a knock on the artist or whatever). I probably think it because i’m in the camp that doesn’t care much for the typical “fuck boy look” like Robert, Mike, and Axel but he just looks bland (again not a knock on artist).
 

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You find Holly boring? I enjoy her and like being able to twist the innocent into something else. And she has glasses.

Hell you know what would help Robert? Not having a generic look (not a knock on the artist or whatever). I probably think it because i’m in the camp that doesn’t care much for the typical “fuck boy look” like Robert, Mike, and Axel but he just looks bland (again not a knock on artist).
Its just every porn game has "Holly" its not like she is bad in any way, i bet she is more developed then most of others "Holly's", i tried her Ian route recently and its just does not compare to any other love interest he has imo, so i just go for someone else as him, Lena/Holly is alot better imo since in terms of lesbian relationship you dont really have much of a choice.
Bro he looks so old lol, when he was talking about wanting to move from his parents so he got that job i did double take, i was thinking he is like 35+ or something with his face and all that.
 

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Its just every porn game has "Holly" its not like she is bad in any way, i bet she is more developed then most of others "Holly's", i tried her Ian route recently and its just does not compare to any other love interest he has imo, so i just go for someone else as him, Lena/Holly is alot better imo since in terms of lesbian relationship you dont really have much of a choice.
Bro he looks so old lol, when he was talking about wanting to move from his parents so he got that job i did double take, i was thinking he is like 35+ or something with his face and all that.
Thats fair.

Well even with that id say Holly is my 2nd favorite relationship overall for Lena, considering again most of her male options are the typical fuck boy route (I will say I did like her scene with Jeremy when she woke him up), I’ve been waiting for something to happen between her and Ed in the mean time all my money is on Stans name.

I wouldn’t see the problem in making him a lonely older dude thats a loser that Lena feels bad for (in the process, a sub) or something. Id say a younger loner but we have Stan for that already.
 
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Thats fair.

Well even with that id say Holly is my 2nd favorite relationship overall for Lena, considering again most of her male options are the typical fuck boy route (I will say I did like her scene with Jeremy when she woke him up), I’ve been waiting for something to happen between her and Ed in the mean time all my money is on Stans name.

I wouldn’t see the problem in making him a lonely older dude thats a loser that Lena feels bad for (in the process, a sub) or something. Id say a younger loner but we have Stan for that already.
For sure, Lena options outside of Ian(wich is not my cup of tea, but in terms of "healty" they can be pretty good) are either boring Rob, cheating Mike(his scenes are pretty hot tho), Jeremy that is obviously fetish route and not really "love", Axel that forces himself on you even if you are just friendly to him(without horny dreams and stuff like that), Stan scenes are fun for sure, but i cant take him seriously as a love interest only as a fun addition like Jeremy, so if I do a normal playtrough(without going too wild) i just go Holly as Lena, Ian on the other hand has pretty normal relationships outside of Minerva(even she has real love rouite in the future since we got our first "heart" dialogue with her recently).
It would be more interesting if Robert was more into "be nice to me or you lose your job" then it would make more sense to sleep with him if Lena is desperate enough.
 
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Robert feels completely pointless given Lena by default makes it very clear she finds him very off-putting and wants nothing to do with him. But then suddenly you get option to have sex with him without any buildup and it's like... "but why would you even want to?" Dude has literally nothing going for him.
His 'pointlessness' is his point :)
Lena's paths all take long buildups. She can have sex with Ian in chapter 4, Louise and Mike in 5, Jeremy and Holly in 7, Seymour and Axel in 9. Ian has Alison and Cherry in chapter 2 already so Lena needs someone to fuck early in the game, hence Robert.
He is supposed to be a lesser Ian, a 'bad' option for Lena, without him she would feel even more railroaded into a hooking up with Ian.
Now, after most of her paths have opened up for Lena, he is indeed pointless. So he'll fade away simply by not showing up any more. He actually has a scene in chapter 10, you only get it if you get in an argument with Ian and didn't go for Mike.
 

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His 'pointlessness' is his point :)
Lena's paths all take long buildups. She can have sex with Ian in chapter 4, Louise and Mike in 5, Jeremy and Holly in 7, Seymour and Axel in 9. Ian has Alison and Cherry in chapter 2 already so Lena needs someone to fuck early in the game, hence Robert.
He is supposed to be a lesser Ian, a 'bad' option for Lena, without him she would feel even more railroaded into a hooking up with Ian.
Now, after most of her paths have opened up for Lena, he is indeed pointless. So he'll fade away simply by not showing up any more. He actually has a scene in chapter 10, you only get it if you get in an argument with Ian and didn't go for Mike.
I always think Robert could also become a "lesser" Axel, you know? I mean, he is into Lena and try hook up with her since ch. 1 and always think this could lead to Robert become obsesed by her and just like Axel start stalking her and be more aggressive. Or in a path where he and Lena have sex but she eventually ignore him to priorize Ian, Robert doesn't take well. This tyoe of things.
 
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His 'pointlessness' is his point :)
Lena's paths all take long buildups. She can have sex with Ian in chapter 4, Louise and Mike in 5, Jeremy and Holly in 7, Seymour and Axel in 9. Ian has Alison and Cherry in chapter 2 already so Lena needs someone to fuck early in the game, hence Robert.
Having a character whom the MC explicitly doesn't want to fuck as a person to fuck just isn't something that can be defended as sensible.

If all Lena wanted was someone to fuck, then with her looks she can get that literally in 5 mins grabbing first good looking guy from a street. And it'll also has advantage of not getting tangled with her boss she cannot stand.
 

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Having a character whom the MC explicitly doesn't want to fuck as a person to fuck just isn't something that can be defended as sensible.

If all Lena wanted was someone to fuck, then with her looks she can get that literally in 5 mins grabbing first good looking guy from a street. And it'll also has advantage of not getting tangled with her boss she cannot stand.
Homeless guy.
 
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I always think Robert could also become a "lesser" Axel, you know?
I'm pretty sure it's Mike who is designed as "lesser Axel" -- Lena mentions multiple time both of them make her feel similar (Mike is just a little more playful), both cheat on their girlfriend, they fuck her similarly, they (can) work with Lena in creative field (Lena was Axel's model, with Mike she can collaborate on making music) and now in episode 10 Mike shows he has very similar anger control issues that Axel has shown, when he completely disregards Lena's wishes and instead gets all incensed and aggressive with Axel because he feels personally slighted.

In fact the thing am most interested re: Mike is how Lena will deal with this new side he's shown her, given how allergic she was to her other boyfriends acting in such manner. I'm curious if the plot armor will still defend Mike in this situation like it usually does, avoiding to address it, or if it gets some actual attention.
 
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I'm pretty sure it's Mike who is designed as "lesser Axel" -- Lena mentions multiple time both of them make her feel similar (Mike is just a little more playful), both cheat on their girlfriend, they fuck her similarly, and especially in episode 10 Mike shows he has very similar anger control issues that Axel has shown, when he completely disregards Lena's wishes and instead gets all incensed and aggressive with Axel because he feels personally slighted.

In fact the thing am most interested re: Mike is how Lena will deal with this new side he's shown her, given how allergic she was to her other boyfriends acting in such manner. I'm curious if the plot armor will still defend Mike in this situation like it usually does, avoiding to address it, or if it gets some actual attention.
I definitly agree about "lesser Axel", but i doubt he will become "obssesed" in the same way.
I will be honest, i saw plenty of situations like that in real life and not a single time a woman saying "stop it" worked, dudes always fight, i dont think Mike is that kind of guy, Axel has some real mental problems on the other hand.
So i think it will be ignored, the scene is a bit railroaded, Lena is always overreact there no matter if she is on drugs or not.
Honestly, it would be funny if Axel character the way he is now because of some gear he takes to look that buff, but i'm not sure if Eva ever mentions stuff like that(or is aware how it works , in GGGB she describes Jack as if the dude is natty or something), but it would be refreshing if Axel rage and obbsessive behaviour has something to do with some steroids messing with his aggression level lol.
 
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I always think Robert could also become a "lesser" Axel, you know? I mean, he is into Lena and try hook up with her since ch. 1 and always think this could lead to Robert become obsesed by her and just like Axel start stalking her and be more aggressive. Or in a path where he and Lena have sex but she eventually ignore him to priorize Ian, Robert doesn't take well. This tyoe of things.
It depends on the player's choices. Even if Lena is slutting it up, but she's honest, Robert becomes a simp for her regardless of the fact she's fucking everybody else. Early on, Robert and Ian are opposites in certain aspects. I liked the changes Eva Kiss made to Robert's character compared to the early versions of ORS. He's a dumb fuck, but he's not malicious. He's somewhat broke too, but he can offer to pay Lena's rent for a few months and look after her despite that. I thought it was a nice touch and made him more sympathetic.
 

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I definitly agree about "lesser Axel", but i doubt he will become "obssesed" in the same way.
I actually wonder if maybe it's going to be Lena who gets obsessed in this pairing -- because their whole relationship is effectively Lena constantly throwing herself at Mike and getting all giddy and proud of herself whenever he humors her and hooks up, as if getting a guy who doesn't give two shits about his girlfriend stick a dick in you was some sort of major achievement when you have looks of a supermodel and practically beg him to fuck you.

When Lena activates her _love flag with Mike she starts to display expectations that maybe he will dump his girlfriend for her, and she tells Ivy she would like that. So, it might either go this way (given Lena's protagonist status and all) or, in rather unlikely case Mike is reluctant, we might see Lena start to act like Axel :V
 

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I actually wonder if maybe it's going to be Lena who will get obsessed in this pairing -- because their whole relationship is effectively Lena constantly throwing herself at Mike and getting all giddy and proud of herself whenever he humors her and hooks up, as if getting a guy who doesn't give two shits about his girlfriend stick a dick in you was some sort of major achievement when you have looks of a supermodel and practically beg him to fuck you.

When Lena activates her _love flag with Mike she starts to display expectations that maybe he will dump his girlfriend for her, and she tells Ivy she would like that. So, it might either go this way (given Lena's protagonist status and all) or, in rather unlikely case Mike is reluctant, we might see Lena start to act like Axel :V
That definitly a possibility, we as a player know tho, that if the "love" dialogue option exist they are in the bag already no matter what lol, so i bet he will dump the girl or maybe there would be some threesome potential in the future, but until we "commit" it would not matter i think, you can trow those "hearts" at everyone at this point.
And if its indeed Gillian i cant wait for the drama lol.
 
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