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So long as content doesnt start getting gated, forcing you to go all Paragon/Chick/Lightside or all Renegade/Dik/Darkside.
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I do like "good" Lena, she's pretty cool. The only path(s) I've played around with that sorta work for an ethical slut route from my perspective (besides the lesbian options) are:
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Not a lot of options! And even those are in a moral grey area. I'd hope maybe there will be some options later with an open relationship with Ian, but an open relationship requires at least hooking up with Robert or Mike, I think. Alternatively, Ian might fuck up with his cheating (if you're playing him that way), and free Lena up to have fun in later chapters.
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- Dec 4, 2017
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While I don't know if Eva gave an official answer (Q&A) and I didn't personally ask but my interpretation is Lena by sleeping with him gets sort of addicted and doesn't want to commit knowing that she will be cheating on Ian with his close friend. Sleeping with Jeremy does the same thing to Ian and Jeremy's friendship that Ian did to Lena if he got kissed by Holly. Neither Ian nor Lena enter the relationship with the intention to keep fucking around or cheat on each other (Cindy and Axel kinda happened after the fact) so they're not that morally corrupt. Whenever Lena does something contradicting her morality (cheating bad), she does that in the heat of the moment, spontaneously. So when she decides to have the talk with Ian, she's making the right decision to avoid drama and keep things casual. Otherwise she'd have to end it with Jeremy but apparently she just can't bring herself to do it.
Or, if we imagine ORS having Good and Bad points, Lena wouldn't have enough Good points to commit to Ian.
I think at the very least Eva might also intend for Lena/Mike to be "enjoyable" given how it can develop in what appears to be a full relationship with feels and everything, rather than simple hookup with cheating thrill. If nothing else, it seems rather obvious Eva has a soft spot for Mike as character.
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Even now, the game has blocked content if one of perks is missing, as well as mutually exclusive brunches. It's okay, adds replay value.
Good interpretation. By the way, I noticed that Lena is by nature an impulsive person and can act on emotions, unlike the more calm basic Ian.
Lena's internal monologue there also reads to me as a convenient but implausible/awkward cop-out to avoid those out-of-game writing and design complications of a Lena/Jeremy cheating path. I find it hard to separate the two and in a perfect world with better development re$ource$, planning or writing skill, I don't think we'd see that monologue or path lock-out happen in such a way. In reality this is still a low-budget indie porn-game, albeit a very good one considering the competition. There are just too many moving parts for it to be perfect. I'm not expecting many clever masterstrokes in Eva's writing for these awkward situations where quality faces off against development realities. I'd be content with a few more "master strokes" which the game's provided pretty well so far.
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- Oct 29, 2017
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Personally I feel like Lena is the most hypocritical in terms of her writing and how she is. I mean the fact that Eva has he cop out excuses to justify her actions or choices, not to mention the whole Ian-Holly debacle, where Ian does get kissed by Holly, she's livid and holds it against Ian for some time... BUT it's totally okay for her to make kissy faces with Louise and Ivy and whoever else that she might be seeing potentially.
Like I've said before, and I will say it again: There is alot of inconsistency when it comes to theses characters that needs to be handled and mended sooner rather than later.
Like I've said before, and I will say it again: There is alot of inconsistency when it comes to theses characters that needs to be handled and mended sooner rather than later.
- Oct 17, 2019
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“After SerHawkes request I delete every male cheracter out of the game, make Ians dick 2 times the seiz, every women likes to share Ian, and Ivy will be a virgin again that magicly playes twister on Ians dick ” by evakiss
I don't think Lena is being inconsistent -- her whole reluctance with Holly comes simply from her knowing that Holly has feelings for Ian, so she wants Ian either to commit to Holly or refrain from leading her on, in order not to hurt her. Lena making out with Louise or Ivy isn't going to bother Holly who doesn't have any known feelings for either of these two.
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Yet at the same time, she can be also pursuing Holly as well. Let alone both Ian and Lena can be interested in Holly at the same time. Your not wrong in saying what you said. Yet to me, it adds more unneeded drama and complex things when it doesn't need to be fucking rocket science.
I made the suggestion ages ago, dismissed naturally by Maresy and others, that the whole Ian-Holly-Lena thing should be handled differently. Like for Ian, if he is into both of them, yet hasn't slept with Lena at the time (A hard choice I know), for him to admit his feelings to Holly yet mention he is interested in Lena as well, and of course Lena confess to Holly after the trip, that she is into Holly and Ian as well.
How is what I suggested entirely unphathomable? Just get their feelings out in the open and go from there. There isn't need for this pussyfooting around with maybes and longing for each other. Every thing can get sorted out once all the feeling are laid bare. But instead, we have Lena, if she is with Ian, still have the option to show interest in Holly and go about this 'Oh what would Ian say... I have feelings for Holly but I can't act on them...' For fuck sake... Just talk to Ian, tell him about them, then talk to Holly and go from there.
Well, i'd say it is more along the lines she's being attracted to Holly, but she keeps reminding herself Holly likes Ian and so she keeps holding back -- like ending the photo-session early while she's willing to go all way with Holly if Ian isn't in the picture.
If you feel that the whole Lena getting oh so cautious about Holly feelings is frustrating then i'll quite agree, it definitely can be. On the other hand, it makes for one of these slow burn things so... ehh, i guess there'd be both fans and people who'd rather have things work different no matter which approach Eva went for.
(talking things out would definitely help to resolve matters, but then soap operas are absolutely allergic to any sort of clear communication, so this is sadly by the book)
- Oct 29, 2017
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No kidding. Ivy is one of those. More so than Ian-Holly-Lena.
But I digress. Agree with the lack of communication, as we also see with Louise and Jeremy, not to mention Wade and Cinders... If for drama purposes, eh... it 'works' but I'd give it a 5/10 for effort. Some drama is fine and all but do we need it with every character or possible relationship? No not really. It just saturates with possible pointless drama that don't add to the story other than for a placeholder for drama.
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When I looked at this image I remembered the shit Lena has to read on her Stalkfap so I had to do this haha
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Gonna wager that was Stan's comment. Jokes on him, he's getting cucked already.
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I mean he rubbed one out on here. I think at the very least a bj but who knows, maybe they do go all the way behind Ian’s back.