Xupuzulla

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Eva needs to write the story she wants to write and not get bogged down in trying to figure out what the players want, too many cooks...
All the doomposting is hilarious when it has been proven time and time again this polls mean nothing.
Louise is barely popular since forever and she has more sex scenes than Ivy,a popular character.
Louise even has a threesome with the two MCs.
the Evakiss "vision" is safe.
 

rj677

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Not only a polls, there is such a thing. Eva said that fans asked her to "redesign Stan" to make him a more likeable and meaningful character and to give him a route. She herself admitted that she did not like Stan.
Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much :unsure::unsure:.
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" :HideThePain::HideThePain:. I didnt know this was the reason :FacePalm:

Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more :cautious:.

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".

The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" :rolleyes:.
 
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Marley300

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He would've if he had one:LUL:

EDIT: He didn't even once tried to adjust his pants whenever Lena was dropping a show in front of him:coffee:
Seymour - Ivy :sneaky:
He don't have Dick! :LUL:
You know that would explain why he’s such a douche… Seymour Butz is an asshole because he’s compensating for something… :sneaky:
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dolfe67

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Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much :unsure::unsure:.
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" :HideThePain::HideThePain:. I didnt know this was the reason :FacePalm:

Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more :cautious:.

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".

The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" :rolleyes:.
I don't think stan's "rework" changed much outside his appearance. But I don't play his route and never will, I don't like it.
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much :unsure::unsure:.
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" :HideThePain::HideThePain:. I didnt know this was the reason :FacePalm:

Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more :cautious:.

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".

The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" :rolleyes:.
That's Eva problem. Too vulnerable to the fans opinion. And given that this is a genre of porn games, there are a lot of virgins with social problems in the audience.
The developer should tell his story, not the one that a group of people requires.
Also, Eva has a problem with writing some characters, especially male ones, that they are not interesting personalities and are only two-legged dildos for Lena.
Anyway, welcome to Stan's haters club.:cool: There are already quite a few of us.
 

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So her core audience likes Stan and Eva talks like she's going to please them. Eva herself admitted that she didn't like this character. It feels like Eva is no longer developing the game according to her vision, but is trying to satisfy the crowd by making fan service. It is not good.
Eva said that fans asked her to "redesign Stan" to make him a more likeable and meaningful character and to give him a route.
To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time...
Correct me if I’m wrong, because there’s literally hundreds of Patreon posts and I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure Eva has never said anything about fans asking her to redesign Stan, and that being the reason for the rework?

When the rework was , Eva wrote:

The truth is, I don't like him. And I don't really know what to do with him in the narrative. When I created him, I thought it would be interesting to add this character trope into the game, since GGGB didn't have anyone like him, and I wanted to try to explore new character dynamics. But the truth is Stan ended up being just that: a trope of a character, and I felt all his interactions with Lena were shallow and didn't fit the rest of the game. And it's time to fix that.
That sounds like she didn’t like the old Stan, and therefore made som adjustments to him, which is an obvious thing to do if you’re dissatisfied with a character in your story, unrelated to what the game’s followers think of him.

And in the comment section of yesterday’s Patreon post:

I like to know what my audience thinks, but ultimately I have my own vision and I always follow that. However, I try to give people what they like, of course :)
That doesn’t sound like “no longer developing the game according to her vision” to me.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Correct me if I’m wrong, because there’s literally hundreds of Patreon posts and I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure Eva has never said anything about fans asking her to redesign Stan, and that being the reason for the rework?

When the rework was , Eva wrote:



That sounds like she didn’t like the old Stan, and therefore made som adjustments to him, which is an obvious thing to do if you’re dissatisfied with a character in your story, unrelated to what the game’s followers think of him.

And in the comment section of yesterday’s Patreon post:



That doesn’t sound like “no longer developing the game according to her vision” to me.
Yes, this is one of those posts, word for word about the fact that she doesn't like Stan but she wants to fix him. But there was also a post that "the fans asked for more Stan", but I can't say for sure whether it was a repost from Patreon or her Discord (I'm subscribed to Discord) I want to hope that the last words are really what she thinks and feels. The importance of maintaining your vision is the most important thing when creating a story. The only exception in my opinion is to ask for advice from a fellow experienced writer if you have a creative block.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Anyway, we've got a good group of people who don't like Stan here on the F95. Patreon has fallen, taken over by a dark, creepy Incel evil. But maybe we can at least defend the F95? Stan will not pass!
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There was an idea... to bring together a group of of remarkable people to see if they could become something more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.
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Anyway, we've got a good group of people who don't like Stan here on the F95. Patreon has fallen, taken over by a dark, creepy Incel evil. But maybe we can at least defend the F95? Stan will not pass!
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There was an idea... to bring together a group of of remarkable people to see if they could become something more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.
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Initially, Stan seemed just like a shy IT nerd. I loved the idea of having Lena tease and provoke him. Now he's revealed himself to be an incel, yes, but I feel more pity for him than anything else right now. He clearly just doesn't understand how romance works and he's probably not much better with people who are just friends, either. I'm still curious to see where EvaKiss takes his story, if anywhere.
 
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