dontcarewhateverno

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No was this new chic is not based on her
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Hell naw. Both are skinny with long dark brown hair, but very different facial structure & vibe. That actress you pictured (is that the sister from Dexter?) is definitely mid while new girl in ORS is pure main-character energy. Kinda wish new girl was the design for Lena from the start now. Though I imagine her being more on the actress/musician/amateur-pornstar path vs Lena's model/musicial/amateur-pornstar. She's hotter than Lena, but there's a certain kind of routine face the fashion industry (majority women and gay men) look for when recruiting traditional models (well.. when they're not recruiting 600+ lbs Yass-queens like they've been doing for the past 6+ years).
 
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At this point, what is Jeremy's body count? What about Ivy? Haven't played in a long time, and was just curious.
The only dick Ivy's taken so far in the story that we know about (other than in her mouth) is Mike's. Lezzie (the official, technical terminology) scenes with both Lena and Holly so far. In contrast, Jeremy's dick is like a skeleton key. An all-purpose penis, if you will. He'll probably have clicked into just about every lock in the game before the story's over. Bodycount currently nearly half of Ian's potential count so far, not even being the MC.
 
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dontcarewhateverno

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That's weird, they call the latest version alpha.
No. It's a game development term as there are generally 3 major milestones.

Alpha - first test build released to a private test group (like patreon or like one of the 3rd party publishers: microsoft, sony, ect, or a select playtest group). Lots of bugs but the full release plays through to completion, regardless of if some content is missing.

Beta - Mostly content complete. Sometimes a very small amount of content will be added or changed. Sent out for testing to the same groups listed above.

Final - Content complete. Bugs fixed (usually). Ready for public release if it passes the final testing. (Or in the case of Patreon games, Final is the actual final).

There are also pre-alpha builds which are the even more sketchy first stages. Often a crap-ton of bugs and errors and you can rarely or never play to the end. Those generally aren't released on Patreon or most anywhere else.
 
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I think it's jumping to conclusions a bit too early. The way it's portrayed and how Axel talks about it (that there's nothing going on between him and Cindy, and that's just professional meeting with people from modeling agency) can easily turn out to be true on routes where Ian helps Wade, or has love route with Cindy himself.
Tell me an instance where Axel has been truthful? I'll wait.
 

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Is it really forced though?. I only played the epilogue with one of my saves, but I didn't encounter any BBC or cuck content. I had to watch the scenes in the gallery. It's not my cup of tea, specially the cuck part, but I don't see what's wrong with the content being there for those who might enjoy it. Specially when you have to make a conscious effort with your choices to be able to get that content at all.
It is a bit forced. And I'm saying this as someone who wanted more crude fetish content. Unlike most opinions, imo it's more forced from the standpoint of Marcel's actions than Lena's. There were little to no signs of interest towards Lena at all from Marcel in earlier chapters. Or that he'd be the sort of character to do the sort of actions he does in the epilogue. Like that first club scene way back in the first 6 chapters or so where Lena can come to the club in a super-slutty outfit. Seeing that outfit in Lena's room and remembering the bouncer from Ian's previous outing there, I was 100% anticipating an ass-slap, a crude comment, or even just a lustful, intimidating stare once she showed up out front. But nope. Nothing. All business and pretty respectable. Next outing he plays cute and seems generally more interested in the modestly dressed Holly and what she does for a living. Like 'hmm ...maybe he's got some depth there?'

Then the recent poll happens and suddenly... Chapter 11 Epilogue: "Im yo BBC gorilla. Stroke my bamboo shoot, bitch". :ROFLMAO:

Not that I was an advocate for the "oh, he's just a big teddy bear after all" angle like some people were pushing. (That idea came off to me as a pretty cringey eye-rolling cliche too). There just really wasn't any foreshadowing in the turn, with an abrupt change to fetish content.

I'm kind of beyond the point of caring much by now though, with the confirmation that Eva can probably only last a couple more years on this game, tops. 5 years really is quite a long development time for one person on a single project.
 
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I don't see this happening. Emma is not the type of woman Seymour target. In his narcissistic mind, what he is doing and providing to Lena is a privilege, a opportunity. Something that he surely doesn't wanna give to Emma.
But i can see he using Lena to destroy Emma's life and social fights against the take over of the small business of Baluart. Not taking her as he wants takes Lena.
There are multiple times where Lena can tell Emma that Seymour isn't that bad. And convincing her to be more femininee could also be something in the direction of changing Emma from her usual ideals.

It could be Lena doing stuff on her own to convince Emma that Capitalism is good and that Seymour is a good patron, or maybe he might tell Lena to make her friend more reasonable. Either way, I'm thinking there will be an Ending outcome where Emma + Lena are under Seymour's thumb. Sort of like how Nat can become Arthur's bitch in the ending even though Nat x Arthur wasn't really a big part of the story.
 
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Tell me an instance where Axel has been truthful? I'll wait.
That's the thing -- the way things are set up, what he says *can* be true for "faithful" Cindy routes, which means the game can have these routes without any contradiction with what was presented so far. It's not like Axel is obliged to lie 100% of the time.
 

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There just really wasn't any foreshadowing in the turn, with a pretty abrupt change to fetish content.
While true, I chalk this up mostly to update being an alpha, which is basically a rough draft. There's beta and final revisions to polish the writing/pacing etc. For this matter, this very update can be example of such ongoing polish, as it includes quite a few fixes to earlier parts of Ch.11. I'd expect the Epilogue to undergo similar treatment.
 

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Incidentally, there's a minor addition to Ch.11 proper, that those who only played the epilogue might've missed: Seymour actually puts his foot down and orders Lena to shut down her Stalkfap (like it was expected he would) if she's working with him.
Wow. The one based thing I've ever heard him do. I guess Seymour isn't all bad. :unsure: (Yeah. Yeah. I know. He did it for all the wrong reasons).
 

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While true, I chalk this up mostly to update being an alpha, which is basically a rough draft. There's beta and final revisions to polish the writing/pacing etc. For this matter, this very update can be example of such ongoing polish, as it includes quite a few fixes to earlier parts of Ch.11. I'd expect the Epilogue to undergo similar treatment.
I'm not so sure at this point, really. On some other items in the build.... sure, as I've mentioned myself. But for these sort of situations, I think we're beyond the point of fine details and at the point of "let's get this shit dooone". True proper foreshadowing here would mean retconning Marcel appearances from previous chapters imo and I definitely don't see that happening.
 
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Threesomes are currently Lena x Jeremy x Louise, Ian x Alison x Jeremy and Lena x Ian/Mike x Louise.
So currently, Louise and Jeremy are the easiest to convince.
so you can't share lena with another man right now? i've heard emma can do it with jeremy too?
 

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It is a bit forced. And I'm saying this as someone who wanted more fetish content. Unlike most opinions, imo it's more forced from the standpoint of Marcel's actions than Lena's. There were little to no signs of interest towards Lena at all from Marcel in earlier chapters. Or that he'd be the sort of character to do the sort of actions he does in the epilogue. Like that first club scene way back in the first 6 chapters or so where Lena can come to the club in a super-slutty outfit. Seeing that outfit in Lena's room and remembering the bouncer from Ian's previous outing there, I was 100% participating an ass-slap, a crude comment, or even just a lustful, intimidating stare once she showed up out front. But nope. Nothing. All business and pretty respectable. Next outing he plays cute and seems generally more interested in the modestly dressed Holly and what she does for a living. Like 'hmm ...maybe he's got some depth there?'

Then the recent poll happens and suddenly... Chapter 11 Epilogue: "Im yo BBC gorilla. Stroke my bamboo shoot, bitch". :ROFLMAO:

Not that I was an advocate for the "oh, he's just a big teddy bear after all" angle like some people were pushing. (That idea came off to me as a pretty cringey eye-rolling cliche too). There just really wasn't any foreshadowing in the turn, with an abrupt change to fetish content.

I'm kind of beyond the point of caring much by now though, with the confirmation that Eva can probably only last a couple more years on this game, tops. 5 years really is quite a long development time for one person on a single project.
Can you blame Evakiss?
All that time writing and pushing male characters and they get beat by the meme BBC bouncer in the polls.
Why stick to your "vision" if the people who pay your bills want only one specific thing?
 

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Can you blame Evakiss?
All that time writing and pushing male characters and they get beat by the meme BBC bouncer in the polls.
Why stick to your "vision" if the people who pay your bills want only one specific thing?
I didn't really blame her at all in the post, shown from my aside at the end. I understand the situation at this point, tbh. Though I think it's more about a "les get this shii dooone" (while pissing off as few patrons as possible) dash to the finish by now - which is still a bit of a marathon, to be sure - than it is mere audience catering alone. I'd go mad spending more than 5.5 years on one project too if in her position (admittedly an envious position though, since it beats the hell out of real work). Life's too short when you've got a bunch of other creative projects in your head and the means to fulfill them, the "means" in large part through funding from this game. Would I, as the player, rather wait longer and have as smooth a game as possible? Sure. But it's not the end of the world for me. It's her life, not mine.
 
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