VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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Socrambus said:
Let's say that Mike's gf is Gillian that would mean that Jeremy knows that. Also, as it seems that Jeremy knows everything in this game despite being the dumbest character, it would be reasonable to think that Jeremy knows about Mike and Lena (if it happens in your game, obviously).
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By Jeremy's admission Gillian and her boyfriend were in the club, so that's how he knows both she's back in town, and who her boyfriend is. But it's a stretch to go from this to Jeremy knowing about Lena/Mike -- Lena is quite discreet about her affair, the only people who realistically have chance to know about it are Ivy and possibly Stan and Louise. In fact, at no point in the game Jeremy gives any indication he knows about Lena getting it on with anyone behind Ian's back (and the game scripts has no checks for that, for what's worth)
 
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ffive said:
If you want to hold it against him, how do you feel about reverse situation, which is Ian knowingly hitting on Alison and cock-blocking Jeremy from her, even though it is Jeremy who first brings up possibility of getting together with her, and you know it is something he wants? And doing it not even because the player finds Alison their girl of choice, but purely to get one over Jeremy? Because i don't really see people in this thread feeling like "bad friends" for doing it to him. Quite the opposite, they brag about it and relish this opportunity.

Imagine if Jeremy took this attitude with Lena? Mocking Ian to his face for getting it on with her? This thread would be cinders. But the opposite seems to be not just a fair game, but a local sport.
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But the first appearance of Alison in the game is when she phones Ian to have lunch with him. Ian is with Jeremy at the moment and Jeremy actively encourages Ian to accept and bang her. I get your point though and you are right, as players we tend to favour the MC's and look down on NPC's we might see as "enemies".

ffive said:
By Jeremy's admission Gillian and her boyfriend were in the club, so that's how he knows both she's back in town, and who her boyfriend is. But it's a stretch to go from this to Jeremy knowing about Lena/Mike -- Lena is quite discreet about her affair, the only people who realistically have chance to know about it are Ivy and possibly Stan and Louise. In fact, at no point in the game Jeremy gives any indication he knows about Lena getting it on with anyone behind Ian's back (and the game scripts has no checks for that, for what's worth)
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She might blow Mike in the DJ cabin and in the restroom. And when Lena meets Mike, they leave together and Jeremy is there working. They are not that discreet. And I don't know, Mike seems to somehow know about most of Lena hook ups and Jeremy working at the same place and being also Ivy's friend doesn't know anything?. Maybe he doesn't, but I don't think it would be a strech if he knew.
 
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Socrambus said:
Forcing AI's to be Stan's girlfriends is how you get them to revolt and exterminate humanity.

By the way, I think he says he hired a personal trainer. If the personal trainer ends up being Ivy, this thread is going to explode.
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Is going to be one of the guys who trains Jeremy and Ian,im sure of it,theres no way he doenst end in that gym.
Him interacting with Ivy would be funny through,like you said some people would lose their shit,the rants would be glorious.
 
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Gicoo said:
The poll was worthless in the first case since you can't compare two protagonists without including their respective routes. Naturally Lena got more votes since she is a hot woman, while Ian is a generic dude that 99% of the audience doesn't envision themselves sleeping with. If he poll was about the routes, it would include Ians cast like Cindy, Alison, Holly, etc., and on Lenas side you had to consider how good Axel, Mike and Jeremy truly are.
But who knows what the patreons and discord user are thinking. I see a bunch of stupid shit on patreon, but even that could only be a vocal minority.
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Im sure alot of patreons are big GGGB fans,them liking only Lena and this game being more Lena central makes sense.
I remember that even here people wanted this game to be a one MC game,alot of people are not that fond of playing with Ian,they want Lena to be Ashley.
 
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rj677 said:
Now it got to a point where we can honestly make the argument that Eva is essentially a liar... "This game will be different than GGGB" "More realistic scenarios"... What she didnt say was that she meant to do those things only on the Ian path :unsure:.
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But tell me, what's exactly "unrealistic" about a hot girl with high libido (which is what Lena with high Lust the player develops for her is) and potentially a BBC kink, hooking up with a guy she perceives to be a 10/10, if given opportunity to do so?

This whole river of tears over it (i don't mean you specifically, but in general) is honestly a bit funny. People are having sex! In a porn game! And they are not up to my moral standards when doing so, EK is the worst!

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She might blow Mike in the DJ cabin and in the restroom. And when Lena meets Mike, they leave together and Jeremy is there working. They are not that discreet.
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They're still discreet enough to do it out of view. So unless Jeremy is stalking Lena (and there's no reason to believe he does) it remains perfectly viable he doesn't know about them. He certainly doesn't display any signs of such knowledge.

Although now he potentially does know for sure about Lena/Marcel, so we'll see how he will deal with this.
 
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Im glad it was a dual protag game myself, have found it very interesting. Both characters can be very likeable too depending the route you take, or they can be absolute assholes who dont respect their friends or themselves. I will say, I hate the over reliance on tropes though. It's something the creator falls into the habit of a lot with, all the black guys both in this and GGGB and here are horndogs with big dicks that are poor relationship material, all the fat guys are weird and creepy (Stan/the coffee shop owner/boyfriends dad from GGGB), all the girls with tats are sluts etc etc etc. Outside of the heavy reliance on tropes I love the games, but I do wish I couldnt immediately identify a characters personality by seeing them show up on screen for two seconds.

It'd be interesting to see some more varied character archetypes in their next title, like a shy girl who stays shy but is a bit of a closet slut (These are not uncommon, but in these games they always have to go through a social transformation to be a slut), or a black guy who's thoughtful and charming, or a fat guy who's funny and friendly in a non creepy way etc. Because yea, like the second most characters pop up I already know what they're going to be like in game, and that isn't particularly realistic.
 
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Geralt From Rivia said:
Stan is the perfect character for a gay route. Rejected by all the girls, unrecognized, offended by life, the fat man from the dungeon remembers that there are a lot of hot men around. :KappaPride:
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Stan will either end up as a hobo cause he gets kicked out of the apartment, or he'll go to prison cause he went full blown incel and went on a killing spree.
 
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I'm straight forward man, I see bullshit, I call upon it like I called Ian on Cindy route if he goes on to Cindy than YES! 100% he is not a friend of Wade for the bullshit he pulled up upon him and I won't come up with bullshit reasons to defend Ian on it. I always keep eyes open whether it's about MC's or NPC's.

ffive said:
Like i said, it depends on his perception of what would be consequences of revealing it, and his intentions.

Jeremy notes that Ian spent a literal year depressed and moping over Gillian, and only recently started to move on. It's not unreasonable for him to think that if Ian learnt about Gillian, he could relapse in his earlier behavior. And that withholding this info he's helping his friend to stay on his present course.

To use an exaggerated example, if Jeremy suspected Ian might literally off himself if he learns about Gillian being in town and still fucking the guy she's betrayed him with, would he be "a good friend" in your eyes by immediately running to Ian with this info, without care about the consequences?...
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For Gillian(Chameleon) I can make peace. But I still think he should've told Ian bcz chances of Ian literally offing himself are more if Ian saw Gillian(Chameleon) with her boyfriend who she cheats with as he won't be able to withstand that. It's for the scenario you provided more plausible. Jeremy should've used soft approach if he was that concern about Ian.

ffive said:
...He falls to the player's magical "i get what i want" button. If the player chooses to use it. Otherwise, he keeps his distance.

If you want to hold it against him, how do you feel about reverse situation, which is Ian knowingly hitting on Alison and cock-blocking Jeremy from her, even though it is Jeremy who first brings up possibility of getting together with her, and you know it is something he wants? And doing it not even because the player finds Alison their girl of choice, but purely to get one over Jeremy? Because i don't really see people in this thread feeling like "bad friends" for doing it to him. Quite the opposite, they brag about it and relish this opportunity.

Imagine if Jeremy took this attitude with Lena? Mocking Ian to his face for getting it on with her? This thread would be cinders. But the opposite seems to be not just a fair game, but a local sport.
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Alison was crushing on Ian from start and she doesn't give attention to Jeremy if Ian pursues Alison. Jeremy was still looking to just score. Even when Ian blatantly told Jeremy to back off on Alison, infront of Wade and Perry, what does Jeremy do?
For Lena, Ian specifically told Jeremy "I am falling for her" and guess what Jeremy did with Lena? Does Jeremy tell Ian "Bro! your girlfriend is making moves on me." He is fucking opportunist and I stand by it.
 
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Geralt From Rivia said:
Stan is the perfect character for a gay route. Rejected by all the girls, unrecognized, offended by life, the fat man from the dungeon remembers that there are a lot of hot men around. :KappaPride:
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Well...Some gay dudes might consider Stan attractive. Maybe he could be one of those gay bears.
 
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Gicoo said:
The poll was worthless in the first case since you can't compare two protagonists without including their respective routes. Naturally Lena got more votes since she is a hot woman, while Ian is a generic dude that 99% of the audience doesn't envision themselves sleeping with. If he poll was about the routes, it would include Ians cast like Cindy, Alison, Holly, etc., and on Lenas side you had to consider how good Axel, Mike and Jeremy truly are.
But who knows what the patreons and discord user are thinking. I see a bunch of stupid shit on patreon, but even that could only be a vocal minority.
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"99% of the audience doesn't envision themselves sleeping with"

WTF !!? are you okay dude? :HideThePain::LUL:
 
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