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Is the second option really an option? So far, I have only explored Lena working willingly for Seymour by accepting the contract (without being forced). If I have her consistently refuse, even under pressure, can Ian actually ask her to work for Seymour in the curent version or are you just saying it would be fun if he did? If it can happen, what conditions are needed? Thank you.
Let Ian meet Seymour at the office and hand over his manuscript. Get the job at Hierophant. You are pretty much set with Ian/Seymour. Now for Lena's part, you can work as a model for Seymour but don't pick she likes working for him, and decline his contract during the dinner. This will trigger Seymour to talk to Ian about Lena. Pick the first option. For now, this is it. Ian might convince Lena to work for Seymour later. Ian asking Lena about it is not on the current version but we sure do have a path in the making.
I also went to the book fair with Holly, we met Seymour there too. If it is necessary to gain admiration from Seymour I don't know just yet, but he seemed to be happy that we were taking the initiative.
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Let Ian meet Seymour at the office and hand over his manuscript. Get the job at Hierophant. You are pretty much set with Ian/Seymour. Now for Lena's part, you can work as a model for Seymour but don't pick she likes working for him, and decline his contract during the dinner. This will trigger Seymour to talk to Ian about Lena. Pick the first option. For now, this is it. Ian might convince Lena to work for Seymour later. Ian asking Lena about it is not on the current version but we sure do have a path in the making.
I also went to the book fair with Holly, we met Seymour there too. If it is necessary to gain admiration from Seymour I don't know just yet, but he seemed to be happy that we were taking the initiative.
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Thank you for the advice! Would Lena need to be in a relationship with Ian for this to work, I wonder? The pic you posted is alluring! Is it from the new mirror scene? I do not recall it.
 
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Thank you for the advice! Would Lena need to be in a relationship with Ian for this to work, I wonder? The pic you posted is alluring! Is it from the new mirror scene? I do not recall it.
For my playthrough, she was in a relationship with Ian because I wanted them together to indulge. I'll keep Seymour as a paypig for Lena. No feelings for her sugar daddy. For solo Lena your playthrough is fine. Yeah, it's the new mirror scene. Just like you said, "We could wind up with...well...two animals in Seymour's circus".
 
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I wonder if anyone else thinks that Mike's girlfriend could be Alice. We meet her during Ivy's birthday party and if you decide to sit next to her and try to get to know her she basically ignores Lena and Billy because she's too busy looking for someone specific in the crowded club. I think this is important because not only does Lena thinks she is acting a bit odd Billy does too. I think the reason she just started to work at the club is to be able to keep an eye on Mike. Another detail that I think supports this idea is that Mike can tell Lena that his girlfriend never gave him a boobjob. It could just be the sweater that she's wearing but it seems that Alice's breast are on the smaller side when compared to the other ladies.
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Really? I'm thinking more that she is actually an undercover DEA agent to investigate the sale of illegal drugs that Ivy obviously manages and where she gets all the money for everything she has, because obviously what she has is not from doing Onlyfap like He wants to make Lena believe.
 

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I wonder if anyone else thinks that Mike's girlfriend could be Alice. We meet her during Ivy's birthday party and if you decide to sit next to her and try to get to know her she basically ignores Lena and Billy because she's too busy looking for someone specific in the crowded club. I think this is important because not only does Lena thinks she is acting a bit odd Billy does too. I think the reason she just started to work at the club is to be able to keep an eye on Mike. Another detail that I think supports this idea is that Mike can tell Lena that his girlfriend never gave him a boobjob. It could just be the sweater that she's wearing but it seems that Alice's breast are on the smaller side when compared to the other ladies.
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It does seem like she could be. But if Mike knew his girlfriend was in the club, and surely he would know if she was working there, would he later be dancing intimately with Lena? That would be a bit of giveaway. Unless Alice had left the club by then, because we don't see her, beyond a certain point? I think she's certainly a contender. We know that Gillian for instance, is probably in the game for the same reason that Axel is, so that Ian can be tempted to go down the wrong path again. But so far Alice is a complete mystery, just like Mike's girlfriend.
 
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Really? I'm thinking more that she is actually an undercover DEA agent to investigate the sale of illegal drugs that Ivy obviously manages and where she gets all the money for everything she has, because obviously what she has is not from doing Onlyfap like He wants to make Lena believe.
Yeah, it looks like BS that Ivy can earn that much, she sure has some shady deals going on in the sidelines.
 
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Really? I'm thinking more that she is actually an undercover DEA agent to investigate the sale of illegal drugs that Ivy obviously manages and where she gets all the money for everything she has, because obviously what she has is not from doing Onlyfap like He wants to make Lena believe.
Ivy going to jail?
That would be cool.
 

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Yeah, it looks like BS that Ivy can earn that much, she sure has some shady deals going on in the sidelines.
That's right, if to further reaffirm my theory if Lena talks to bad Jessica at the party she will tell her that Ivy reminds her of her being an ambitious young woman and getting into dangerous games, leaving it up to interpretation as to what she is referring to, it may not be drugs but Ivy obviously has shady dealings, I also theorized that Axel is also in cahoots with her because of the suspicious way they get together but I'm not entirely sure.
 

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She does have three other sources of money besides stalkfap, and it wouldn't surprise me if she had a sugardaddy as well.
Sugar Daddy seems more plausible or a high-end escort. The jobs are there for a good stable income but not in a way you can indulge lavishly.

That's right, if to further reaffirm my theory if Lena talks to bad Jessica at the party she will tell her that Ivy reminds her of her being an ambitious young woman and getting into dangerous games, leaving it up to interpretation as to what she is referring to, it may not be drugs but Ivy obviously has shady dealings, I also theorized that Axel is also in cahoots with her because of the suspicious way they get together but I'm not entirely sure.
I think even good Jess says the same thing about playing a dangerous game. Axel ....sigh.... that guy needs a good bath in the acid drum.
 

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That's right, if to further reaffirm my theory if Lena talks to bad Jessica at the party she will tell her that Ivy reminds her of her being an ambitious young woman and getting into dangerous games, leaving it up to interpretation as to what she is referring to, it may not be drugs but Ivy obviously has shady dealings, I also theorized that Axel is also in cahoots with her because of the suspicious way they get together but I'm not entirely sure.
Jessica was never involved in dealing drugs. She was a model and cammed, and she had sugardaddies, plus a load of VIP friends who helped her out. She did drugs obviously, but it was Ashley and Eva who were dealing drugs ( at least on the thug route).
Ivy makes a lot more money from Stalkfap than Lena does. Lena went into it, extremely inexperienced in producing naughty content, so she starts from a much lower threshold than Ivy does. If Lena doesn't take up Seymour's offer and continues making Stalkfap content, perhaps she'll eventually emulate Ivy and significantly increase her earnings?

When she says that, I think Jessica is talking about her own naivety, because she believed that becoming a celebrity would bring her happiness. And she sees that same desire in Ivy, and the same willingness to do anything to get it. In Jessica's case that ultimately led her into porn, which proved to be a very negative experience for her.
 

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Jessica was never involved in dealing drugs. She was a model and cammed, and she had sugardaddies, plus a load of VIP friends who helped her out. She did drugs obviously, but it was Ashley and Eva who were dealing drugs ( at least on the thug route).
Ivy makes a lot more money from Stalkfap than Lena does. Lena went into it, extremely inexperienced in producing naughty content, so she starts from a much lower threshold than Ivy does. If Lena doesn't take up Seymour's offer and continues making Stalkfap content, perhaps she'll eventually emulate Ivy and significantly increase her earnings?

When she says that, I think Jessica is talking about her own naivety, because she believed that becoming a celebrity would bring her happiness. And she sees that same desire in Ivy, and the same willingness to do anything to get it. In Jessica's case that ultimately led her into porn, which proved to be a very negative experience for her.
Stalkfap for me just feels like a gateway for the mainstream pornstar path. Ivy does make more than Lena but by how much? It was never disclosed.
 

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Ivy makes a lot more money from Stalkfap than Lena does. Lena went into it, extremely inexperienced in producing naughty content, so she starts from a much lower threshold than Ivy does. If Lena doesn't take up Seymour's offer and continues making Stalkfap content, perhaps she'll eventually emulate Ivy and significantly increase her earnings?
The build up of Lena stalkfap is very slow compared to how much money she can make right away with Seymour.
I think is safe to say Ivy is into some shady shit.
 

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Sugar Daddy seems more plausible or a high-end escort. The jobs are there for a good stable income but not in a way you can indulge lavishly.


I think even good Jess says the same thing about playing a dangerous game. Axel ....sigh.... that guy needs a good bath in the acid drum.
I think if Ivy doesn't achieve the celebrity status that she wants, by more conventional means. She may be tempted like Jess was before her ( and Ashley for that matter) to follow a more extreme path. In Ashley's case it works if you allow her to become a bimbo, but for Jessica it's ultimately a disaster, that leaves her bitter and broken. And Jessica sees so much of herself in Ivy, that she's worried the same thing will happen to her.
 

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I think if Ivy doesn't achieve the celebrity status that she wants, by more conventional means. She may be tempted like Jess was before her ( and Ashley for that matter) to follow a more extreme path. In Ashley's case it works if you allow her to become a bimbo, but for Jessica it's ultimately a disaster, that leaves her bitter and broken. And Jessica sees so much of herself in Ivy, that she's worried the same thing will happen to her.
Agreed. Ivy is very ambitious and will do whatever it takes for her to reach the top. I don't know if you've noticed but there are some instances where Ivy really gets jealous of Lena. In the first appearance of Billy, when he turns his back to Ivy to talk to Lena, Ivy's face changes there. Getting the posh outfit for Lena and Jeremy commenting on it puts a damper on Ivy's mood.
 

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Stalkfap for me just feels like a gateway for the mainstream pornstar path. Ivy does make more than Lena but by how much? It was never disclosed.
Well obviously it is. But right now, Ivy is hoping to become a successful model, and that's all she's focussing on ultimately. My guess is, things won't go the way she hopes. And failing to become a wildcat's model was the first step towards that. Plus, as other people have suggested, Billy's modelling agency may actually be focussed on porn?

Ivy is a lot more outgoing than Lena is, and she doesn't have a lot of moral qualms, about doing sexual stuff openly. Whenever, you see her Stalkfap material, she always seems to be several steps ahead of Lena.
 

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Well obviously it is. But right now, Ivy is hoping to become a successful model, and that's all she's focussing on ultimately. My guess is, things won't go the way she hopes. And failing to become a wildcat's model was the first step towards that. Plus, as other people have suggested, Billy's modelling agency may actually be focussed on porn?

Ivy is a lot more outgoing than Lena is, and she doesn't have a lot of moral qualms, about doing sexual stuff openly. Whenever, you see her Stalkfap material, she always seems to be several steps ahead of Lena.
Yup, Billy, the horseshit will take her to porn. She's already pissed at Axel and Cindy. I wonder how she will manipulate Wade into this mess.
 

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IvyxMike is hardcoded on every route or just the one where Lena is involved with Mike? IIRC I don't get it if Lena is not involved with Mike or I may be forgetting.
 
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