mommysboiii

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Will Perry finally get lucky in the beach house?
What if the Perry-Holly route starts there,will her fans be mad?:unsure:
Bruh, with no similarities between them it would be redundant to even start a relationship. Since it's EK; who knows, we might even get a throuple made for Perry :KEK:.
the asshole ian enjoyers probably lick their fingers :KEK: :KEK:first stealing emma and than holly from him and than not pay rent give perry a break
 

Xupuzulla

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It's a shy bf with an open flirty extrovert gf. It's a good path to have, maybe I'll do it in the future. But this path will slowly nudge you to cuckoldry. If you need a more brutal path try playing sexless Ian + cheating Lena. It's hilarious and so evil LMAO.
"My Ian chose submissive and curious about Lena's past options" - Wait isn't this cuck path? with a :( face
Python:
Sexless Cuck Ian
l "You're really enjoying this, you perv... Are you gonna cum between my feet? Do you wanna know why your cock is special to me?"
                                i "Yes... Yes! Tell me!"
                                l "Because yours is the only one I won't fuck."
                                i "Ahhhh!
:KEK: brutal and hilarious.
The Ian sexless cuck route is unintentionally hilarious,so many funny moments:KEK:
 
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It's a shy bf with an open flirty extrovert gf. It's a good path to have, maybe I'll do it in the future. But this path will slowly nudge you to cuckoldry. If you need a more brutal path try playing sexless Ian + cheating Lena. It's hilarious and so evil LMAO.
"My Ian chose submissive and curious about Lena's past options" - Wait isn't this cuck path? with a :( face
"Ian is now a loyal boyfriend who wants to worship Lena". - If it's all about worshipping your mistress then let me introduce to you sexless Ian.
Python:
Sexless Cuck Ian
l "You're really enjoying this, you perv... Are you gonna cum between my feet? Do you wanna know why your cock is special to me?"
                                i "Yes... Yes! Tell me!"
                                l "Because yours is the only one I won't fuck."
                                i "Ahhhh!
:KEK: brutal and hilarious.
Interesting... that's a bit too much for me personally. Ideally I would like Ian to stuff a nice foreign creampie deeper into Lena after a long day at work. I don't really aim to have Ian be abused and made fun of, just light teasing where both parties enjoy themselves. Will see how detailed these paths get in future, but thanks for info I was not aware it can go even deeper than what I already had haha.
 

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These games have porn tropes devoid of all porn. Porn is tedious 24/7 edging with picture start/stop photography done mid action where the actors and the actresses are sore by the third hour of their long work days ordeal. The BDSM in this game is supposed to come natural but nobody ever studies or goes to clubs or go work for BDSM establishments to actually learn the skill to be a dom, learn the skill to be a sub - otherwise we get these freakish scenes we have now, because in all porn there are many people directing the actors and the actresses through their ”ordeal”, there is no ”unscripted” hard violence in porn, there is slo-mo abuse that they rehearse tirelessly until it gives the impression, to the viewer, that some strong emotion is there. Remember - the pleasure from sex receptors are in the exact places on your body where sex is supposed to happen, not on your back, certainly not on your thigh or your neck or where have you.
Deb acts as a sub and is very vulnerable at the moment because she went through a breakup. Most of these games don't even depict a good Dom/Sub relationship realistically. It's either borderline torture or degen-level humiliation. :rolleyes:
That's one of the worst attempts att a dom/sub interaction in any VN, the supposed dom comes off as just as much or more of a sub then the intended sub, terrible..
 

| Vee |

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The dating tag is also used in the case of Lena and Seymore and Lena and Stan when neither had even so much as kissed her yet.

Even if that is the case, it's a hidden event flag, not Ian himself saying it like you claimed several times.
Than dating variable should be used, instead love variable is used for Jess.
As I said before dating variable is for casual theme and love variable is for potential relationship.

If Ian refused to be couple with Lena and tries to continue dating Lena and Ian opens up with Lena when she came back from her parents after Cherry's exhibition ("Open up" about Gillian(Chameleon) option) the that open is also marked as ian_lena_love and there is no expressing of love in that option but Ian chose to share a personal matter to Lena.
It is the same case with Jess but instead Ian admits to be give it a try with Jess.
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Even jess called this "weird".
I would bury this conversation here if you don't want to understand it, that's on you:coffee:.

Seriously, what the hell is EK smoking at this point? SMH.
It makes no sense to make Ian in love with Jess without build especially when Ian is vary to fall in love with someone.
It just raises questions on EK's writing with all this Jess, Marcel, Jack. Is she still in writer's block:confused:?

Appeasing her patron's is one thing but this level of writing from EK...I simply don't know what to say.
 
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I believe it is bcz Male brain instinctively goes on to lean more on aggressive side and bcz males are visual and they only consumed it from... exactly, "porn". While, female are more emotional and imaginary that's why they give thoughts to even little details.

I think this can be a factor.
 
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I believe this entirely. In my view, it is because the sub can lose all inhibitions regarding what she envisions the dom to do while most doms cannot bring themselves to completely let loose due to an inner core of goodness. I would guess that gender may not be work at here; just the dom/sub roles.
The writer, if a female dom, should have written the MC as a female dom. Perhaps she felt the audience would be too narrow?
I ask this: Whom do you all here prefer to play? Ian or Lena? And for each as sub or dom?
Well, I think that female doms are probably a lot better at writing from a male dom perspective than a male sub, I don't think you will find any female doms who are not attracted to a strong man, and who would not find exciting to submit to the right type of man, simply put women are more flexible and can find pleasure in both roles, I think (almost) all women are switches to some extent, and as such they can write a male dom character of their own preferences. Men however are less inclined to it, a sub is usually a sub through and through, and most male game devs who produce fetish content seem to be more submissively minded, as such they're usually unable to accurately portray a male dom character, it's as if they're unable to actually understand the thought process of a dom.

Maybe I'm just over thinking things.

Also: Male dom Ian, bang Cindy , she's my favorite character and I can't wait for when the cheating finally comes to light.
Experience maybe ? :BootyTime:
I definetly believe that EK has had a lot of interesting experiences.

I believe it is bcz Male brain instinctively goes on to lean more on aggressive side and bcz males are visual and they only consumed it from... exactly, "porn". While, female are more emotional and imaginary that's why they give thoughts to even little details.

I think this can be a factor.
While yes, men are more visually stimulated, and as such the writing probably takes a hit, but I don't think that's all there's to it in this case, I simply believe that male devs who produce fetish content are more likely to be of a sub variety.
 
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SearingFive

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I believe this entirely. In my view, it is because the sub can lose all inhibitions regarding what she envisions the dom to do while most doms cannot bring themselves to completely let loose due to an inner core of goodness. I would guess that gender may not be work at here; just the dom/sub roles.
The writer, if a female dom, should have written the MC as a female dom. Perhaps she felt the audience would be too narrow?
I ask this: Whom do you all here prefer to play? Ian or Lena? And for each as sub or dom?
Depends on the mood though. I wouldn't mind Ian being a good switch. Yes, there is no hardline in BDSM that a dom stays dom always hence we have a term called 'switch'. If I want to take it easy some days I switch. It's generally the sub's job to control the flow and set boundaries.
I prefer Ian but Lena as a dom is pretty hot too.
 

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I believe it is bcz Male brain instinctively goes on to lean more on aggressive side and bcz males are visual and they only consumed it from... exactly, "porn". While, female are more emotional and imaginary that's why they give thoughts to even little details.

I think this can be a factor.
Say that in front of my wife and for protection I would stand a few meters away from you. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Seriously speaking, today gender does not have as much weight because women can be equal and in some cases more competitive than men and the same thing happens with tastes, each individual is a world to discover if you can. :love: :love:
 

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While yes, men are more visually stimulated, and as such the writing probably takes a hit, but I don't think that's all there's to it in this case, I simply believe that male devs who produce fetish content are more likely to be of a sub variety.
Than a sub man could've written the Male MC as Female dom? no? See there is contradiction with your statement. But that also depends whether a sub dev is even capable of writing Male MC as Dom by keeping female dom in mind.

Say that in front of my wife and for protection I would stand a few meters away from you. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Seriously speaking, today gender does not have as much weight because women can be equal and in some cases more competitive than men and the same thing happens with tastes, each individual is a world to discover if you can. :love: :love:
The biology still stays the same. Yes, over the time you can condition ones mind and tastes but that requires finesse.
 

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I ask this: Whom do you all here prefer to play? Ian or Lena? And for each as sub or dom?
Lena 100%. I like to play her as dominant (Louise) but l'm not opposed to her being submissive if there were any dominant women in the game.

The reason I like this dev's games is because the mc actually has agency in the game and is not just there to be abused by every guy in the world. High quality lady led games are rare especially if you enjoy the buildup leading up to the relationship. Eventho it's obvious that the dev's mcs leans towards guys it's nice that I can avoid sexual situations with them and focus on the other girl lis. (Even tho there are way less to pick from and fewer scenarios with them.)
 

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Depends on the mood though. I wouldn't mind Ian being a good switch. Yes, there is no hardline in BDSM that a dom stays dom always hence we have a term called 'switch'. If I want to take it easy some days I switch. It's generally the sub's job to control the flow and set boundaries.
I prefer Ian but Lena as a dom is pretty hot too.
I think you are making good sense. By now you know, I prefer Seymour's "brand" of dom with Lena as sub. However, because Ian cannot, in my view, be a convincing dom, I would like to see the scenario of loving, loyal, sub Ian to manipulative, cheating, dom Lena. I haven't done a game like that but LordBradley, |Vee|, and yourself have given me pointers to that end. (I have not yet tried it.) It would conflict, and therefore be separate, from a puppeteer Seymour with Lena and Ian as puppets that I hope EK will later provide. Axel's brand of dom to me is a bore since it lacks the erotic mental aspect.
 

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IMO the only and true "dominance" is when you dominate someone mentally. That's the peak of domination when someone surrenders herself to the one knowingly giving them that power to do whatever they want with that level of power. Whether to protect or exploit and how far they will go.

And that is way hard to handle. Don't know if EK has written that kinda character before Seymour.
 

SearingFive

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I think you are making good sense. By now you know, I prefer Seymour's "brand" of dom with Lena as sub. However, because Ian cannot, in my view, be a convincing dom, I would like to see the scenario of loving, loyal, sub Ian to manipulative, cheating, dom Lena. I haven't done a game like that but LordBradley, |Vee|, and yourself have given me pointers to that end. (I have not yet tried it.) It would conflict, and therefore be separate, from a puppeteer Seymour with Lena and Ian as puppets that I hope EK will later provide. Axel's brand of dom to me is a bore since it lacks the erotic mental aspect.
You are more into the mental aspect of a dom than a physical one which is understandable. You want to see what makes Seymour tick and how can he make Lena forego all her inhibitions or Ian if he gets included. Axel's type of dom is fine but it gets stale fast and like really fast.
Sub Ian and dom Lena can also be achieved without cheating from Lena's side, but then you have to deny intercourse to Ian while petting is allowed. I call it the 'worship path'. Ian ain't gonna taint Lena's hooha with his dick but cater to her needs and hers alone.
 
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Mods should really add :sick: emote in reactions so we can both cringe together. I really hope EK doesn't make Ian call lena something like this:oops:.

Me: "You know EK we have our differences but you don't have to go that far *nervous smile*"
EK: ":devilish:"
I can already feel Lena calling him "DADDY" daily. She did it once when she was cheating on him with Axel. I hope he doesn't start calling her with that disgusting word :sick:.
 

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Mods should really add :sick: emote in reactions so we can both cringe together. I really hope EK doesn't make Ian call lena something like this:oops:.

Me: "You know EK we have our differences but you don't have to go that far *nervous smile*"
EK: ":devilish:"
I can already feel Lena calling him "DADDY" daily. She did it once when she was cheating on him with Axel. I hope he doesn't start calling her with that disgusting word :sick:.
By the end of the game my Lena will be referring to Holly as "Kitten" or perhaps "Dove," something endearing like that. Or perhaps "Sugartits" or "Snatchmuncher," those are adorable also.
 
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