Sharpx23

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You mean you have tried and quitted the only porn game worth playing ?
I don't like gggb that much because there is no in game walkthrough, that I could see. The choice system is also so complex and kind of... convoluted, like if you don't say hi to someone on some day, then you get locked out of a bukakke later on as a fake example. like one has nothing to do with another... it's just you needed so many prerequisites to unlock certain paths and that locked you out of other paths, it's too much, i couldn't be bothered to study the PDF walkthrough religiously to play the game the way i wanted. i wish more devs released walk through mods.

Even the walkthrough mod for this game isn't the best it could be. It doesn't guarantee you end up on the path you want. I remember it only gives some info on what responses make certain people happy which for me was practically useless really and didn't tell me what I needed to choose to see what I wanted to see. I'm not like other people who maybe enjoy playing the same game 1000 times, and reading a walkthrough. I'm a one and done person, I want to choose the scenes I want to see and never touch the game again, except I want it within the framework of a game still, rather than just unlocking a gallery and watching it like animated hentai disconnected from any choices.

TLDR gggb would have been the greatest game if it had a proper in game walkthrough, then I'd agree. Right now it's one and done with mediocre feeling because i could only unlock maybe 1 or 2 paths following the pdf walkthrough. couldn't even figure out how to see what i wanted to see. lol

even in ors my playthrough skipped the holly scenes a lot of them, even though i wanted them, no idea why, but i know 100% even if you told me how to unlock them, i will not do another playthrough anymore... i'll just finish this playthrough to the end, consider it mediocre because i only saw 80% of what i wanted, and be slightly annoyed games like this never get proper in game walkthrough mods. and move on to the next game. one and done.
 
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Blurpee69

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I don't like gggb that much because there is no in game walkthrough, that I could see. The choice system is also so complex and kind of... convoluted, like if you don't say hi to someone on some day, then you get locked out of a bukakke later on as a fake example. like one has nothing to do with another... it's just you needed so many prerequisites to unlock certain paths and that locked you out of other paths, it's too much, i couldn't be bothered to study the PDF walkthrough religiously to play the game the way i wanted. i wish more devs released walk through mods.

Even the walkthrough mod for this game isn't the best it could be. It doesn't guarantee you end up on the path you want. I remember it only gives some info on what responses make certain people happy which for me was practically useless really and didn't tell me what I needed to choose to see what I wanted to see. I'm not like other people who maybe enjoy playing the same game 1000 times, and reading a walkthrough. I'm a one and done person, I want to choose the scenes I want to see and never touch the game again, except I want it within the framework of a game still, rather than just unlocking a gallery and watching it like animated hentai disconnected from any choices.

TLDR gggb would have been the greatest game if it had a proper in game walkthrough, then I'd agree. Right now it's one and done with mediocre feeling because i could only unlock maybe 1 or 2 paths following the pdf walkthrough. couldn't even figure out how to see what i wanted to see. lol

even in ors my playthrough skipped the holly scenes a lot of them, even though i wanted them, no idea why, but i know 100% even if you told me how to unlock them, i will not do another playthrough anymore... i'll just finish this playthrough to the end, consider it mediocre because i only saw 80% of what i wanted, and be slightly annoyed games like this never get proper in game walkthrough mods. and move on to the next game. one and done.
No offense, but this feels like a you problem and not a problem of the game. You are certainly welcome to your opinion, so if you find the game mediocre that's fine and you don't need to defend that opinion.

But at the same time it doesn't sound like you're really giving either game a fair shot. In both games you can hop on, or get off, a character's path at multiple points. As an example from GGGB, there was one playthrough I remained relatively neutral with Jack the entire game, I showed some interest in him, but never had sex. I had lost the job at the advertising firm, so I took the job at Jack's club as a dancer, which is the last sex scene with Jack in the game before the ending, and still was able to have sex with him despite going the entire game denying him. Literally even last second Eva allows players to see sex scenes, so long as you haven't been openly hostile with characters. Ffive has been testing how many times Lena will give into Axel and Seymour, before Eva quite literally takes that choice away from him to get off their respective routes. How's that going by the way ffive ? I assume Lena was late arriving at the beach party?

I'll admit, the .pdfs are confusing at first glance, and certainly overwhelming, but that's because of how many branches to these games there are, and how many different ways a scene can play out. But I think if you took a little more time to look it over, and especially to understand the variables at the very end of the walkthroughs, it will make a lot more sense how to get what you're looking for. And if you don't want to do that or there is a nuace that escapes you, ask in the respective thread, though I would ask you actually attempt to understand the walkthrough if you're wanting multiple routes. msleomac is incredibly insightful for GGGB pathing, and while I don't hold a candle to them, I've still helped several people find the outcomes they're looking for. There are probably about 10 people in this thread that could do something similar for you for ORS, though it can be a lot more complex due to the dual protagonist nature of ORS, and the fact that the game is still evolving so we don't have all the answers yet.

But at the end of the day, these games are purposefully designed to be played through multiple times, in multiple different ways. It's actually kind of astounding just how much effort EK puts into all the subtle, and often not so subtle, changes to dialogue, inner monologues, and facial expressions of characters depending on choices that a player could have made 10 chapters prior. There are AAA game studios that put in less effort.
 

Blurpee69

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Me too. She haven't done something like that before.
You mean Ash having sex with her actual dad, her mom, her mom's boyfriend, her mom's swingers club boytoys, or her boyfriend's dad doesn't count as something similar to fucking a step-dad?

For me, they are perfect for each other, but the title of the game would be perfect for a game that's romantic and dramatic without sex scenes.
This game can absolutely be played as a romantic game with some additional friend drama. My first through third favorite paths in this game are all romantic paths with Ian and Lena trying to be supportive friends to the people around them. So the title of the game fits perfectly. Keep in mind just because the red string of fate connects to people doesn't mean that those to people will get together, their string can get tangled and knotted with the strings of others, which can prevent them from reaching the person at the other end of the string they're bound too.
 

Sharpx23

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No offense, but this feels like a you problem and not a problem of the game. You are certainly welcome to your opinion, so if you find the game mediocre that's fine and you don't need to defend that opinion.

But at the same time it doesn't sound like you're really giving either game a fair shot. In both games you can hop on, or get off, a character's path at multiple points. As an example from GGGB, there was one playthrough I remained relatively neutral with Jack the entire game, I showed some interest in him, but never had sex. I had lost the job at the advertising firm, so I took the job at Jack's club as a dancer, which is the last sex scene with Jack in the game before the ending, and still was able to have sex with him despite going the entire game denying him. Literally even last second Eva allows players to see sex scenes, so long as you haven't been openly hostile with characters. Ffive has been testing how many times Lena will give into Axel and Seymour, before Eva quite literally takes that choice away from him to get off their respective routes. How's that going by the way ffive ? I assume Lena was late arriving at the beach party?

I'll admit, the .pdfs are confusing at first glance, and certainly overwhelming, but that's because of how many branches to these games there are, and how many different ways a scene can play out. But I think if you took a little more time to look it over, and especially to understand the variables at the very end of the walkthroughs, it will make a lot more sense how to get what you're looking for. And if you don't want to do that or there is a nuace that escapes you, ask in the respective thread, though I would ask you actually attempt to understand the walkthrough if you're wanting multiple routes. msleomac is incredibly insightful for GGGB pathing, and while I don't hold a candle to them, I've still helped several people find the outcomes they're looking for. There are probably about 10 people in this thread that could do something similar for you for ORS, though it can be a lot more complex due to the dual protagonist nature of ORS, and the fact that the game is still evolving so we don't have all the answers yet.

But at the end of the day, these games are purposefully designed to be played through multiple times, in multiple different ways. It's actually kind of astounding just how much effort EK puts into all the subtle, and often not so subtle, changes to dialogue, inner monologues, and facial expressions of characters depending on choices that a player could have made 10 chapters prior. There are AAA game studios that put in less effort.
It definitely is a me problem. Technically both games are great games. But I basically imposed the condition that the experience of it being a great game can only be unlocked for me if there is a in game walk-through mod that functions the way I want it to (GGGB doesn't have one, and ORS's doesn't function the way I want because I still missed Holly scenes somehow). That being said, based on how I played both games and only saw some of the scenes I wanted and couldn't get the paths I wanted, the game was 8/10 for me instead of 10/10. With a walk-through mod ensuring I don't miss the paths I want, I would have had a blast and wouldn't have been frustrated and slightly annoyed at the end.

For the record I tried to read GGGB walk-through but somehow still couldn't get the scenes I wanted to see. And I attempted it about three more times on top of my original play through, this is already WAY more then I want to read and way more than I want to play a game (seeing as I described myself as a one and done type of gamer).

Keep in mind I've played games and followed walk-throughs from RPGM games like Star Knightess Aura, which was also insanely complex and I wish that game had an in game walk-through too lol. But the difference is somehow I could actually follow their guide (mostly well enough - maybe I got lucky?) and with GGGB walk-through's I still couldn't get on the paths I wanted.

But I think you've also oversimplified it a bit because you know the game so well... so you're even able to remember some details from your play-through. When you're saying I need to give the game a fair shot... well I just gave you more info on how I tried with GGGB, and also with ORS I put in some time for the play-through I have... I understand fair shots, but I don't think fair shot should include studying a walk-through at the end of the day... I am appreciative of volunteers who took time to make them, but yeah they are complicated and sometimes not organized in the best way or hard to follow... a fair shot shouldn't really involve all these hoops and ladders. I guess some people appreciate the complexity in the game, but I probably want a game more like Misfits or Katies corruption, just overall less characters and paths, easier to follow, I guess.

It would be epic if there was a mod where you select which paths you want to see from a list. And from there the game directs you in your choices to get onto those paths. And at the stage where you select the paths it would tell you which ones are mutually exclusive and which one's lock you out of other ones. I dunno, but I take it the paths are so complex nobody ever really designed a walk-through mod like this, this is probably why no volunteer stepped forward with one for GGGB, and the ORS one doesn't even do this. TBH I am not even sure WHAT the ORS in game guide did for me? the only thing I remember truly helping in my playthrough was the cheat system, where bringing everything to 10 helped me not be locked out of choices - which was great.
 
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How's that going by the way @ffive ? I assume Lena was late arriving at the beach party?
Yes. Yes, she was. :whistle:

The flexibility regarding this is actually impressive, even more than usual -- at the beginning of the chapter Lena can opt to make effort to stop cheating in general, then if you choose to meet Axel (or she'll do it automatically with Axel desire active) she can either put a stop to her relationship with Axel (which turns off desire variable) or actually re-activate it, if she resisted/ended her relationship with Axel before, but chooses to kiss him and go with him instead of boarding the train. Also, depending on whether she's made the mentioned decision to stop cheating, her love variable for Ian can either drop to reduced value, or to remain fully active in which case (if she ultimately goes with Axel) she has internal monologue how she feels pulled in two directions, unable to decide if she's more attracted to Axel or Ian.

I'm really curious where this goes. At least with extra sources of will points my Lena now has one to spare. Maybe she'll get an opportunity to use it on that trip with Seymour, or maybe not. We'll see.
 

ThisIsZodiac

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Hello everyone

I'm new here and it's been only a few days since i have been introduced to EVA KISS's masterpieces.
I just have some questions about the game and i appreciate your help in advance.

1.How long does it usually take for the devs to update the game ?

2.I downloaded the game a few days ago from another website and played the game till the end of it which was the beach house and LENA and IAN having sex, but here i noticed that there's been an update yesterday , am i missing something in game or it's the same update that i have already played ?

3.When there is an update here do i have to download the entire game again or there will be a small patch to download and move it in game directory ?
 

Mravac Kid

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Hello everyone

I'm new here and it's been only a few days since i have been introduced to EVA KISS's masterpieces.
I just have some questions about the game and i appreciate your help in advance.

1.How long does it usually take for the devs to update the game ?
Months. Many, many months.

but here i noticed that there's been an update yesterday
Not yesterday, but a month ago.
 

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But at the end of the day, these games are purposefully designed to be played through multiple times, in multiple different ways. It's actually kind of astounding just how much effort EK puts into all the subtle, and often not so subtle, changes to dialogue, inner monologues, and facial expressions of characters depending on choices that a player could have made 10 chapters prior. There are AAA game studios that put in less effort.
ExactlY!

As far as the "game" part of AVN Game part goes, I've been chasing for another ORS high ever since I learned of BaDIK and ORS. If I'm going to play an adult game, branching choices and consequences game like ORS is something I want to play, and I can't find any like it, other than BaDIK and GGGB. And GGGB, i'm gonna be honest, is way too wild for me. ORS happens to be better written too
 
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NukeUmbrella

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help I'm stuck on a loop right about when lena is going to work as a bartender, it goes all the way back to her and holly's photoshoot
 

Jaekynk

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are there NTR elements? only ones i found so far is Ian getting a little jealous of Lena's past.
 
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