I wasn’t really talking about Holly as much as I was focusing on Ivy and whether she should be seen as a more negative character in terms of influence and actions, possibly even one of the main antagonists. I was responding to someone who had placed Ivy in that category.
As for Holly, I’m fine with either of her routes. I don’t only go for the “pure” character paths in the game. That said, I think it’s worth discussing. While Ivy might help Holly open up sexually and even enjoy herself in the process, I’m not sure that such abrupt and radical methods are really good for her.
Holly is very innocent and impressionable. You can clearly see how easily she gets pulled into everything, with very little resistance. Sure, you could argue that she’s getting something out of it and even seems happy on that route, but I still think she’s at risk of facing real disappointments, negative experiences, and relationships that aren’t always healthy.
Unlike Holly, Ivy seems to have enough distance, experience and self-control to stay emotionally detached from those kinds of relationships. I’m less confident that Holly has that same ability. I’m also not entirely sure things will turn out well for her in the end. It all depends on what Eva Kiss has planned.
Will Holly become a sexually liberated, confident woman ? Or will she end up trapped in a cycle of throwaway relationships where she’s treated like an object, with little control over what’s happening, and ultimately hurt ? A lot could still happen. But for now, based on how this is being portrayed in the game, it doesn’t feel especially positive either.
And just to be clear, I’m not saying this from a moralizing or puritanical point of view. That’s not where I’m coming from, and it’s not part of my values.
I also have doubts about the Jeremy-Ivy relationship and what Eva Kiss might have planned for this route. At first glance, it seems unlikely that they’d have a serious relationship since they’re both players and more casual types. However, it does feel like there’s something going on, as they seem to have been circling each other for a while.
Ivy teases Jeremy a lot but doesn’t seem to give in to his advances. As far as we know, they haven’t slept together yet. Jeremy seems pretty fixated on Ivy, while she hesitates to take things further and asks Lena for advice. Jeremy himself looks a bit awkward and even asks Lena to put in a good word for him with Ivy to get a chance.
There’s definitely some tension between them at least. As for whether they’re really meant for each other, honestly, I have no idea. Maybe not. Ivy seems to prefer ambitious men who know what they want. Jeremy can come off as a bit immature and awkward in relationships, seeming like he just wants to have fun and doesn’t really own up to his mistakes.
That said, we don’t know much about Jeremy beyond the surface. His character feels pretty superficial so far. Maybe he can grow, whatever direction this goes. And whether Ivy and Jeremy could make a "balanced" couple ? I have no clue there either.
Regarding your last point, I wonder if Ivy will change, if she’s even capable of it, and whether that would be a good thing. Does Eva Kiss have different routes and possible developments planned for her, or will she just keep the same role and kind of influence she already has ? Honestly, I have no idea.
That said, I don’t really see her settling into an exclusive relationship or becoming "pure" or more tame sexually. I don’t think there will be any real romance with this character, even with Ian. I imagine only the “chad Ian” might interest her for a while, but it probably wouldn’t be a stable or permanent relationship.
For now, Ivy remains a fairly minor character. Given how far along we are in the game, I find it hard to imagine any radical or complete change in her personality. It remains to be seen what Eva Kiss has in store for her.
