VN Unity Out of Touch! [v3.28] [Story Anon]

[Laziness]

As someone who's been burned by Unity games, engine switch or not, Anon's made sure to ease any worries. They've made sure to keep all the little features of Ren'Py carried over, which is really what matters.

Only thing I need now is for the unity port to get a mac version so I can give it a go.

 

[Story Anon]

I also agree that you shouldn't prune tags as long as they're true, even if we're only just starting to see the beginning of it.

On one hand, with the harem + yuri tags: At the end of the day you do have two of the love interests in love with each other (or at least one in love with the other so far), and that might be a legit deal breaker to some people, which is perfectly fair. It just means that this is not the game for them, and it's right that they should be able to identify that up front (it's also right for them to just leave the thread without making a "I was going to play but..." comment).

On the other with the Unity hate: People are going to have dumb hangups about things and there's nothing you can really do about that. Honestly I'm amazing you've still been willing to reply to comments like that, personally I would have given up and just ignored them a while ago.

I don't think the two types of comments should be conflated, there's a difference between a rationalized dislike of certain story elements, and an irrational hate of a game engine.

You make a convincing argument, alright I’ll leave it be.

 

[Story Anon]

As someone who's been burned by Unity games, engine switch or not, Anon's made sure to ease any worries. They've made sure to keep all the little features of Ren'Py carried over, which is really what matters.

Only thing I need now is for the unity port to get a mac version so I can give it a go.

Don't worry, for the full release build it's either going to have a Mac version or I'm just not releasing it at all until it does.

The Android version is going to be a little more complicated but also a big reason why we made the Unity jump. The mechanics we got working with Ren'py simply won't work on Ren'pys mobile version while Unity should.

 

[Story Anon]

I've updated the Developer Notes section with an explanation about the Unity rebuild. (I also marked the Unity Build download as being a Public Test version, just to make it absolutely clear)

For convenience, here's that explanation:



Oh my God why are you rebuilding the game in Unity? Are you insane? Unity games suck!

In a lot of cases, especially with Erotic games, I actually agree. Unity advertises itself as being friendly to new or amateur developers in the same way Ren'py does but let's be real:

It isn't.

The result is that a lot of amateur devs try to make their first Daz or Honey Select game with some pre-built VN package in Unity and absolutely fuck it up. It runs terribly, it's full of bugs and crashes. Awful.

That's not what we're doing.

Instead, our lead programmer Snow has built our own VN system in Unity that's tailored for exactly the game Out of Touch wants to be. This is his full time job and yes, he's a real programmer. In fact, his only job is getting the Unity version working and he works on it 8+ hours a day.
Suffice it to say, this isn't the same pre-built nonsense that you've seen before.

Now Why are we spending so much time and effort rebuilding the game in Unity?

If you've played Ch15, you've realized this isn't just a simple VN. Surprise it's a real video game. The mechanics present in Ch15 are barely a tutorial for the real game to come and even that was already pushing Ren'py far past it's limits, to the point that the Android version was permanently broken.

This Unity rebuild will allow us not only to make the gameplay as strong and fun as we always wanted, but it will also allow us to bring the game BACK to Android. Seeing as how prior to the 1.0 release Android players made up around 50% of our player base, this is a big deal for us.

Of course with anything like this, there will be bugs to iron out and other issues to fix. Please let us know any problems you find and we will get them fixed. If you've played the Ren'py version and there's something new or different in the Unity build that you don't like, tell us! My goal is for the transition from Ren'py to Unity to be as seamless as possible and I want all wanted functionality from Ren'py to remain.

 

[Look-see]

tried it. and dont think itd for me. cant name the protag which blows and even at the begining it takes a hella long time before the first choice shows up and then its not even from the POV of CJ. i cant say much after that since thats when i quit the game.

but yeah not bad just not for me.

 

[Eayz3n]

Hello , new to trying this game but im unsure wich is the correct download link ...
Should i get the unity test version or the one below it... I personally dont care what engine it is , i just wana try the game

 

[Story Anon]

Hello , new to trying this game but im unsure wich is the correct download link ...
Should i get the unity test version or the one below it... I personally dont care what engine it is , i just wana try the game

Go for the v1.27 Ren'py version.

 

[Deleted member 949883]

Like I’ve said for the past few months, we have an actual programmer on our team and Ren’py couldn’t handle the animations well enough.

Overall performance will be improving, not degrading.

As a player, for me the gameplay experience is far more important than the performance and renpy has a lot of built in features that make it so much more enjoyable. Both skipping dialogue and rolling back is so much smoother with renpy when compared to every other adult unity game I have played. I also really hate transitions - I dont want the text to slowly fill up in the text box I want it to load instantly and when I press enter or spacebar, I want the next set of dialogue to show up instantly - with renpy you just set preferences.transitions to 0 and that problem is solved.

Lastly a lot of adult games pretend to be something they are not and end up failing miserably because of it. There are so many sandboxes that add literally nothing to the game except force the player to play a pointless game of hide n seek and click a hundred extra times to get the next picture of a boob. Now your game may not be like that but almost all the unity games I have played here do this and I hate it I have (perhaps unfairly) come to associate unity with tedious sandboxes. I dont dislike unity as an engine a lot of incredible games are built on top of unity (pillars of eternity, cuphead etc) but those are very different from porn games. You are not playing PoE or cuphead for the same reasons you are playing a VN like this one. I just dislike it when it is used in adult games. Thats not to say I refuse to play adult unity games. Some games I really like built in unity like Love of Magic and Timestamps its just that I personally think unity added nothing to either of those games and I would have enjoyed them more in renpy.

As a disclaimer I have not played your game until now - I am about to try it for the first time but since you wanted to know reasons behind why someone might dislike unity heres' my reason.

 

[Story Anon]

As a player, for me the gameplay experience is far more important than the performance and renpy has a lot of built in features that make it so much more enjoyable. Both skipping dialogue and rolling back is so much smoother with renpy when compared to every other adult unity game I have played. I also really hate transitions - I dont want the text to slowly fill up in the text box I want it to load instantly and when I press enter or spacebar, I want the next set of dialogue to show up instantly - with renpy you just set preferences.transitions to 0 and that problem is solved.

Lastly a lot of adult games pretend to be something they are not and end up failing miserably because of it. There are so many sandboxes that add literally nothing to the game except force the player to play a pointless game of hide n seek and click a hundred extra times to get the next picture of a boob. Now your game may not be like that but almost all the unity games I have played here do this and I hate it I have (perhaps unfairly) come to associate unity with tedious sandboxes. I dont dislike unity as an engine a lot of incredible games are built on top of unity (pillars of eternity, cuphead etc) but those are very different from porn games. You are not playing PoE or cuphead for the same reasons you are playing a VN like this one. I just dislike it when it is used in adult games. Thats not to say I refuse to play adult unity games. Some games I really like built in unity like Love of Magic and Timestamps its just that I personally think unity added nothing to either of those games and I would have enjoyed them more in renpy.

As a disclaimer I have not played your game until now - I am about to try it for the first time but since you wanted to know reasons behind why someone might dislike unity heres' my reason.

No worries, let me see if I can reword it a bit so I can hopefully help explain everything.

Alright, unpacking these issues I think I see:

1) Skipping and rolling back
2) Text transitions
3) Hide and seek, grindy sandbox game play.



3) is the easiest to address, the game's not a sandbox and has no grind. No problem there, I don't like those kind of games either.

2) Is also pretty easy, text is displayed immediately in the Unity build since we wanted it to feel as close to the original as we could get it.

1) Took a ton of effort on our part but scroll back is in. Currently skip is having a bit of an issue skipping through sprite transitions (which is a known issue) and music transitions but that'll be fixed in the near future.

And yeah if you're playing the game for the first time, give the v1.27 Ren'py version a try. The current Unity version is a public test build meant for being broken.

 

[Hentai_Connoisseur]

I’m not going to change anything about the game, but like I mentioned before I can’t do anything about “I haven’t played the game but yuri + harem tags have ruined this for me” comments or anything else like that, and I’d rather just avoid them entirely.

I consider NTR to be the same for men and women. I know, I'm a disgusting, horrible psychopath that views the two genders equally. Yuri means "sex between two women" not "kissing", so I guess you're confused about that.
You really can't fault people for believing your tags - they're there so people can decide whether they want to play your game or not. If your tags are contributing to a misconception you should change them instead of blaming commentors.

 

[ElukiaTV]

I consider NTR to be the same for men and women. I know, I'm a disgusting, horrible psychopath that views the two genders equally. Yuri means "sex between two women" not "kissing", so I guess you're confused about that.
You really can't fault people for believing your tags - they're there so people can decide whether they want to play your game or not. If your tags are contributing to a misconception you should change them instead of blaming commentors.

This discussion already happened.
No there is no NTR because the stuff that will happen is between members of the MC harem. No one is "Taking someone away from you" that its literally what NTR means.
Can people drop the topic already?

 

[otakujo]

am guessing this while searching and going no where sadly thing :s is there someone with save thats past that point ?

 

[Story Anon]

am guessing this while searching and going no where sadly thing :s is there someone with save thats past that point ?

A lot of people are running into a bug with the Unity test build at that segment, please play the Ren’py version if you want to play the game at its intended quality.

 

[Fazed]

No worries, let me see if I can reword it a bit so I can hopefully help explain everything.

Alright, unpacking these issues I think I see:

1) Skipping and rolling back
2) Text transitions
3) Hide and seek, grindy sandbox game play.



3) is the easiest to address, the game's not a sandbox and has no grind. No problem there, I don't like those kind of games either.

2) Is also pretty easy, text is displayed immediately in the Unity build since we wanted it to feel as close to the original as we could get it.

1) Took a ton of effort on our part but scroll back is in. Currently skip is having a bit of an issue skipping through sprite transitions (which is a known issue) and music transitions but that'll be fixed in the near future.

And yeah if you're playing the game for the first time, give the v1.27 Ren'py version a try. The current Unity version is a public test build meant for being broken.

Hopefully #2 will have a slider in the future similar to the renpy version? Some of us quite like slower text transitions. Sure, out of the three, it might not be the biggest issue but the UI is the proverbial vehicle players will use to traverse your game and it would be nice to be able to set that to preference. Also an opacity slider for the text box is another feature you might want to consider. I'm not saying I had a problem with it, I actually like the gradient implementation that is there now, but just something to keep in mind for the future.

 

[Duckwater]

Finally got around to reading this VN and I'm hooked now, you've really tapped into something special here. The characters, the flow of the story, the humor, the 80s vibes and music, absolutely loving it. The last 5 hours have gone by like a flash. I'm happy to support this game with what little I can give.

 

[Hentai_Connoisseur]

This discussion already happened.
No there is no NTR because the stuff that will happen is between members of the MC harem. No one is "Taking someone away from you" that its literally what NTR means.
Can people drop the topic already?

So why are you replying then? NTR is subjective. I'd personally consider "having sex" to be the point of getting taken away. Unless it's a threesome. But that's not what yuri means. Think about it. If you swapped a guy and one of the "yuri" women, most people would feel it's NTR. They'd feel cucked and people would complain that there wasn't an NTR tag. Even if the girl still canonically loved you. Because sex is what makes people jealous. Like I said, I know I'm odd and all since I also feel this way about women. But there you have it. Let this be the end of the topic.

 

[otakujo]

ty the other version worked and am lil confuse other then going to area and just chatting and certain area continue the story i feel like i skipped every lewd scene?

 

[ElukiaTV]

ty the other version worked and am lil confuse other then going to area and just chatting and certain area continue the story i feel like i skipped every lewd scene?

There are not much lewds for now, one at the begining and one in chapter 18, if you managed to trigger that flag properly. (Well and some kisses or shower scene here and there). The story is pretty much still setting things. The "putting the harem together" (if you know what i mean), is close, but the game is not at that point yet.
Anon has said it a few times, but the game is not centered around sex. Its a story with sex on it. So yeah, a bit slow or lack of lewds for some people, but the game is pretty much about a damn nice and crazy 80's journey.

 

[Story Anon]

Put in for an OP update but here's the v0.09 version of the Unity Test Build!


Unity Test Build v0.09 changelog

Thank you to everyone who gave the Unity build a try! Your feedback has been invaluable and I've spent the last few nights implementing all the fixes for the bugs you've found!

Big ones fixed:

-Alejandras dementia should be cured and you are now able to progress out of Chapter 2.

-Almost all of the missing images have been found hiding under the floorboards and have been put back into their slave labor camps proper folders.

-You wouldn't know it but I implemented the fixes needed for Jamies section of Ch2 into CJs section and the Ch7 walk around as well. So those should work!

Small ones fixed:

-I took this opportunity to just scout forward to Ch14 and fix all of the stupid little script problems as well. If you see any more stupid names (or lack thereof), let me know and I can squash those very quickly.


Things not fixed:

-The map screen is still bugged. That's a surprisingly involved issue so will probably have to wait until Monday.

-Sprites still dissolve horribly. Sorry.

-Scrollback can get a little wonky if you've been skipping.


Anyway, thanks again for all your effort! Without you guys, this project would be absolutely no where.



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