VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Cynicaladm]

Such reasoning always annoy me, people willing to downgrade game ratings in reviews because of their fetish preference. It's like if I playing only strategy games and then decided to play a strategy game with shooter elements, got disappointed that it had shooter elements, and gave it a low rating because of that. Or, for example, if the reviewer has no sense of humor and is reviewing a comedy.

My position is simple, if game contain fetishes I like, I can easily write a review and evaluate it's quality and how it's implemented, but if a game contains fetishes that I don't like, how can I judge it if it's not my thing? So I just don't play them, if this fetishes bothers me too much, or I don't write reviews on them.

Edited. P.S. The only exception of my rule is probably the hypnosis stuff. Despite that this certain fetish has their own audience, I rarely find good execution of this in a story, and mostly find it to be the laziest way to write a porn story.

the entire notion of rating a game based on the content (in terms of kinks and such) is silly... if you don't like bdsm and you play a game that has bdsm, that is on you... so basing the review on that dislike is unfair to the people who wrote the game clearly with players in mind who like bdsm. same goes for any other kink.
if the criticism is about the delivery, that's another matter.. but the choice of what to represent is for the author.. the coice of liking it or not is for the player.. the reviewer should be more honest about it though, and acknowledge the difference without it penalising the game.

 

[Ottoeight]

how is this game, my main kink is incest i know there isnt any here. but i was wondering if it had a similar vibe like in Dr.vibes

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Mind you: those scenes are pretty disturbing and filthy. I really feel uneasy when I see them.

 

[CHFan]

I just discovered this game. Really like the premise/plot/setting. The women are pretty well written as well. I really hope we get to break the red head, I was bummed the MC couldn't actively help Samson in his effort to ruin her gym (but pissing on her during Wk1 nearly made up for it). Also struck a deal with cow tits in the hope I could take advantage of the situation (the pics were a good start). I look forward to seeing the rest of the month play out.

A few posts/pages back someone projected the next update to be in the mid-Aug to Sept range. Being new, how much content is added each update? Will the next update take us to the competition or through wk2?

 

[TD1900]

A few posts/pages back someone projected the next update to be in the mid-Aug to Sept range. Being new, how much content is added each update? Will the next update take us to the competition or through wk2?

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

This update has taken longer than usual due to some personal circumstances, but the last three were at about 2 and a half months, 3 and a half months, and 4~ months. That range is about what I personally want to shoot for after GIL and I get this update behind us.

To give you idea how much content has been piped out for each update, the initial release was everything up to the week 1 title card (where you learn Felicia is a Carnation), the first update was Monday-Friday of week 1 (everything from the week 1 title card to Edwin taking a shower and thinking about the competition), the second update was the exhibition, and the third update was Edwin's birthday party up to where the current build ends. The working plan for the next update is days 2-5 of Week 2.

 

[SharkVampire]

the entire notion of rating a game based on the content (in terms of kinks and such) is silly... if you don't like bdsm and you play a game that has bdsm, that is on you... so basing the review on that dislike is unfair to the people who wrote the game clearly with players in mind who like bdsm. same goes for any other kink.
if the criticism is about the delivery, that's another matter.. but the choice of what to represent is for the author.. the coice of liking it or not is for the player.. the reviewer should be more honest about it though, and acknowledge the difference without it penalising the game.

I'm agree with you. I wrote my post about it, because I often looking for the new games and the first thing I look at is the preview and the rating. Of course, I also reading the descriptions and sometimes comments, especially from the developer if he communicates with players on this site. And more than once I noticed that games with good previews and descriptions had ~3.5 stars or less, and when I read the reviews I was almost shocked that people basically ruined a game's rating because they don't like a certain fetish in that game, often it's NTR (who would have thought?), less often it's a female protagonist. That's why I think it's unfair, to say the least. There is enough games on this site that I like, despite that they contain pretty much niche fetishes, like violent rape, gross creatures, like in Paralogue, etc. Still, I wouldn't downgrade their rating because this content disgusts me, yes, it is in the game, if I can avoid it, that's fine, if not, well, like you said, I signed up for it myself.

 

[Smarmint]

I loved the scene with Hana and the MC in her apartment. Wow, that was very hot, the tension between the two of them, at least how I read it. I love how things are slowly progressing with her, a nice change of pace compared to the other characters, like Felicia, which I also like a lot, just because of her personality.

I hope that there is some way to progress with Hana without totally screwing over Killian. He seems like a good friend to the MC, and it doesn't seem in the MC's personality, at least the way I am playing him, to just totally betray him like that. I am sure the devs have it all planned out a long time ago, but I hope that Killian breaks up with Hana at some point, and we have a discussion with Killian that Hana is fair game.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I loved the scene with Hana and the MC in her apartment. Wow, that was very hot, the tension between the two of them, at least how I read it. I love how things are slowly progressing with her, a nice change of pace compared to the other characters, like Felicia, which I also like a lot, just because of her personality.

I hope that there is some way to progress with Hana without totally screwing over Killian. He seems like a good friend to the MC, and it doesn't seem in the MC's personality, at least the way I am playing him, to just totally betray him like that. I am sure the devs have it all planned out a long time ago, but I hope that Killian breaks up with Hana at some point, and we have a discussion with Killian that Hana is fair game.

Assuming you mean Mina, then yes, I agree - I don't think Killian is particularly good for Mina. I think Killian likes the idea of having a girlfriend, and no doubt has genuine fondness for Mina, but does nt seem to want to make the effort to make relationship with Mina work.

Yet Killian is a good friend to the MC, other than sometimes leading him astray, for which we are probably all thankfull for as otherwise would nt have been the exciting storyline that we have had so far. So I have had to try and walk a very fine line with MC's interactions with Mina. Being supportive and helpful to Mina without being overly critical of Killian.

So I don't want to just take Mina away from Killian. I would rather he do what you suggest and Killian himself choose to end his relationship with Mina. Then hopefully he wont be offended about us asking her out.

Although telling Mina about the club and that we both work there will be interesting....

 

[Walnutt]

I loved the scene with Hana and the MC in her apartment. Wow, that was very hot, the tension between the two of them, at least how I read it. I love how things are slowly progressing with her, a nice change of pace compared to the other characters, like Felicia, which I also like a lot, just because of her personality.

I hope that there is some way to progress with Hana without totally screwing over Killian. He seems like a good friend to the MC, and it doesn't seem in the MC's personality, at least the way I am playing him, to just totally betray him like that. I am sure the devs have it all planned out a long time ago, but I hope that Killian breaks up with Hana at some point, and we have a discussion with Killian that Hana is fair game.

See? Hana is so much the best girl that you forget who Mina even is

 

[Smarmint]

Assuming you mean Mina, then yes, I agree

Yes, of course I meant Mina. Thanks for correcting me! It has been a little awhile. Freudian slip I am sure, haha.

See? Hana is so much the best girl that you forget who Mina even is

Hana is amazing too. How can one pick between the two?

 

[ttsheng33]

will the main heroine being share with other(like being fuck the other man than mc)?
I dont mind about prostitution where main heroine didnt being fuck by other man

 

[quorkboy]

There's no main heroine. And yes, pretty much everyone will fuck other men. Mina is fucking Killian (she is his girlfriend, not the MC's, at least not unless they break up or the MC takes her from him. Or the two of them share her.) The Carnations: some are in other relationships (before they met the MC,) and all will be sexually involved with other men as part of their role in the club. I don't think we've seen Hana with anyone else (my memory is imperfect and I may have forgotten) but expecting that she will only be with the MC seems foolish given the general nature of the game (though it's possible.)

 

[ttsheng33]

all will be sexually involved with other men as part of their role in the club

How will it exactly look like?

 

[Mograx]

My guess is Hana is the one set up for a more vanilla love route. For all intents and purposes, she's the only one that is seemingly exclusively for Edwin. The only mention of her past sex life really is a retelling of an experimental night with a rockstar chick she liked (which was great btw lol)

Throw in her and Edwin's situation at the end of the last update and that only seems to confirm her as the 'choose me if you don't want to lose yourself to depravity' route.

Just speculation on my part, mind.

 

[Mograx]

How will it exactly look like?

The only way for you to know "exactly" would be to play the game.

Otherwise it will look like, but is not limited too: Sex, sweat, cum, urine, pain, pleasure, tears, ahegao faces, latex, whips, bukkake, and everything in between.

Just play the damn game.

 

[forthewins]

How do Renpy saves work? When I'm waiting on an update for a game can I just delete the game from my hard drive without losing my saves? Or do I have to do something else first?

 

[Smarmint]

How do Renpy saves work? When I'm waiting on an update for a game can I just delete the game from my hard drive without losing my saves? Or do I have to do something else first?

Yep. If you are running Windows 10, all your saves are stored in %appdata%\renpy (paste the link in an Exlorer window to find it), so you can safely delete your game directory. Whenever you install the next version, your saves will show up. It is probably similar with other OSs.

Very occasionally, a dev will do something crazy with the save name, and change the %appdata% name of the game, and I've had to find the old name and move the saves over, but in the hundreds of games I've played, I think this only happened once or twice.

Also, if things really get messed up, really just press "TAB" to zip through the game at high speed. Even the longest game here, unless it is a sandbox, or sandbox-lite (I am looking at you Lessons in Love), takes only 5 or 10 minutes max to zip through the game from the start.

 

[forthewins]

Yep. If you are running Windows 10, all your saves are stored in %appdata%\renpy, so you can safely delete your game directory. Whenever you install the next version, your saves will show up. It is probably similar with other OSs.

I am on Windows 10. So even if I delete the game and the next version of the game doesn't come out for a year later, my computer should still have all my saves in app data?

If so this will save me so much damn hard drive space. So far I've been saving every freaking game I've been waiting on updates for until the next version came out before deleting, haha.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[desmosome]

My guess is Hana is the one set up for a more vanilla love route. For all intents and purposes, she's the only one that is seemingly exclusively for Edwin. The only mention of her past sex life really is a retelling of an experimental night with a rockstar chick she liked (which was great btw lol)

Throw in her and Edwin's situation at the end of the last update and that only seems to confirm her as the 'choose me if you don't want to lose yourself to depravity' route.

Just speculation on my part, mind.

That is definitely the expected path with Hana. The degenerate in me kind of wants to corrupt her, but at the end of the day, this game doesn't use straight up porn logic where you can do whatever you want. The characters exist as individuals and you can't just unilaterally shape a relationship through the MC. The situations, motivations, and personality has to dictate the dynamics that are possible.

 

[forthewins]

That is definitely the expected path with Hana. The degenerate in me kind of wants to corrupt her, but at the end of the day, this game doesn't use straight up porn logic where you can do whatever you want. The characters exist as individuals and you can't just unilaterally shape a relationship through the MC. The situations, motivations, and personality has to dictate the dynamics that are possible.

My guess is both things will be possible. A pure route with Hana and also a route where you help get her more involved in the club. Both would be interesting to see, and make multiple playthroughs more worth it.

 

[Mograx]

That is definitely the expected path with Hana. The degenerate in me kind of wants to corrupt her, but at the end of the day, this game doesn't use straight up porn logic where you can do whatever you want. The characters exist as individuals and you can't just unilaterally shape a relationship through the MC. The situations, motivations, and personality has to dictate the dynamics that are possible.

ROFL I'm with you, my primal instinct is to corrupt her as well, but logically, it's just unnecessary. The game needs a grounded love path, and Hana fits the bit so well I'd definitely do an exclusive playthrough with her in a pure love route, despite my degeneracy.